Question for the masses

dawgfan77

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Would you take a Tuberville Bowden type, or would you rather go with a young up and coming head coach.

I would rather go with the young up and coming HC.
 

Croomp

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Young and upcoming coach. To keep up with the trend we have going on under Byrne. Keep it new/young/fresh. Not old liek the damn walrus.
 

patdog

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I don't like the idea of hiring someone else's retreads. They fired those guys for a reason.
 

Todd4State

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Young up and coming, and preferably some experience at a lower level school like Georgia Southern (hint, hint) or Tulsa (Averaging 56.6 points a game).
 

PBRME

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Todd4State said:
Young up and coming, and preferably some experience at a lower level school like Georgia Southern (hint, hint) or Tulsa (Averaging 56.6 points a game).

The Tulsa head coach and everyone else on the offensive side of the ball. Gus may like a shot at directly competeing against his former boss just a few miles up the road.
 

The Big Slick

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than I would take Tub everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. .

Tuberville a retread? Give me break. He is three wins away from a 9th straight winning season and two wins away form a 9th straight bowl game. He has proven he can win consistently in the SEC, even at Ole Miss. What else can you ask for? Save this year, his teams have always been prepared. They win a few games they are not supposed to win. They consistently win games they are supposed to win, and never lose to the likes of the La Tech, Tulane, and Maine. Save this year, they run the ball well, play strong defense and *gasp* special teams.

Just because a coach can put up 56 points per game at a C-USA school does not mean he will do that in the SEC. Tulsa could not even manage to win their own conference last season, and the team that did got Croomed in the Liberty Bowl. A coach does not have throw the ball 60 timea a game, be young, "innovative", and jump around the sidelines like a wild comanche in order be the polar opposite of Croom. That can be achived simply by winning games. I don't care if we win 56-48 or 3-2.
 

DowntownDawg

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....I would rather have a young up and coming coordinator than a retread head coach. I'd rather have a retread head coach than another position coach. I want somebody with some experience, don't want to wait another 5 years for a position coach to learn how to be a head coach.
 

TBonewannabe

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Someone who wants the challenge of being in the SEC primetime football. Whatever Croom says, he didnt desire being a head coach in the SEC. We had to beg him to take it. He would have been a coordinator somewhere for more than one or two years if he really wanted to be head coach. I could understand begging someone like Urban Myer or Spurrier or Pete Carrol, coaches with a winning track record. We begged a career position coach who really didn't have the aspirations to be a head coach. If he had he would have done what normal guys do. Croom went from janitor to running the company. It's not his fault that he doesn't know what he is doing, it is MSU for letting him continue to do it.
 

patdog

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He looks old, tired and beat down right now. Does he still have the fire and energy it takes to win in the SEC, especially at one of the tougher jobs in the SEC. We all saw in 2001-2003 what can happen when a good coach loses that fire. And right now, it looks like there's a chance Tubs just doesn't have it any more.
 

MSUCE99

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"I want somebody with some experience, don't want to wait another 5 years for a position coach to learn how to be a head coach. " Whoever is next - retread, up-and-coming coach, whatever - I want to make sure that they know how to recruit and make in-game decisions from a head coach's perspective. I want to know that they know they can't be lazy in the off-season (recruiting), and I want to know that they ALREADY know how to manage a game and when to call timeouts. One other thing that I would like to see is a killer instinct, a willingness to try to score points in the last minute and a half of the 2nd quarter before halftime.
 

BigBully

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Doesn't matter to me. You can make a valid argument for either side. However, now that we have an AD with a sack, whoever gets the nod will (or should) be held accountable for their wins/ losses. No more moral victories or "turning the corner" BS. There is no excuse to give someone 5 years to win. Today's coaches, if they are worth a **** and have the "fire in belly to win" should be able to be competitive in 2-3 years. BB
 

MaxwellSmart

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patdog said:
He looks .... beat down right now. Does he still have the fire and energy it takes to win in the SEC
That concerns me too. I think an up and comer would be better for us in the long run but I'd swap him for dipshit right now.