Question for Todd or any rules geeks...

Coach34

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I've been instructing the kid of my fiance's boss on hiitting the last year or so....he is 11...their travel team lost in the semi's this past weekend on a balk by the 3rd baseman that allowed the winning run to score. I've never heard of this in my life.

Can anybody other than the pitcher balk in baseball?
 

tupelotim

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The 1st Baseman (or the 3rd Baseman) must be completely in fair territory while the Pitcher is on the rubber and in possession of the ball.</p>

Whether or not it is called a balk seems to be league specific. Some leagues merely force the player to step into fair territory, others will call it a fielder's balk.</p>http://www.infosports.com/baseball/arch/115.htm

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RaiderDawg24

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I found a forum discussing the MLB rule covering this.

<font color="black" size="2" face="MS Sans Serif,arial,helvetica,verdana">When the ball is put in play at the start of, or during a game, all fielders other than the catcher shall be on fair territory. (a) The catcher shall station himself directly back of the plate. He may leave his position at any time to catch a pitch or make a play except that when the batter is being given an intentional base on balls, the catcher must stand with both feet within the lines of the catcher's box until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand. PENALTY: Balk. (b) The pitcher, while in the act of delivering the ball to the batter, shall take his legal position; (c) Except the pitcher and the catcher, any fielder may station himself anywhere in fair territory; (d) Except the batter, or a runner attempting to score, no offensive player shall cross the catcher's lines when the ball is in play."

Some umps take this rule to mean only breaking part (a) results in a balk. Some umps call all parts of the rule a balk. Depends on the ump and if he even knows the rule.
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Todd4State

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First of all, I've never seen anyone in 25 years other than a pitcher balk.

That said, I looked it up to, and here's what I found.

There are 15 ways to balk.

1. switches his pitching stance from the windup position to the set position (or vice versa)
without properly disengaging the rubber;
2. when going from the stretch to the set position, fails to pitch;
3. throws from the rubber to a base without stepping toward
(gaining distance in the direction of) that base;
4. throws from the rubber to a base where there is no runner and no possibility of a play;
5. steps or feints from the rubber to first base without completing the throw;
6. pitches a quick return pitch, that is, intending to catch the batter off-guard;
7. pitches or mimics a part of his pitching motion while not in contact with the rubber;
8. drops the ball while on the rubber;
9. after a feint or throw to a base from the rubber, fails to disengage
the rubber before reengaging and pitching;
10. after beginning to pitch, interrupts his pitching motion;
11. begins to pitch while the catcher is out of the catcher's box when giving an
intentional walk;
12. while pitching, removes his pivot foot from the pitching rubber, except to pivot;
13. inordinately delays the game;
14. pitches while facing away from the batter;
15. after bringing his hands together on the rubber, separates them except in making a
pitch or a throw;
16. stands on or astride the rubber without the ball, or mimics a pitch without the ball

All of these pertain to the pitcher. However, and this is a little gray, I suppose anyone in the field could "inordinately delay the game". If the third baseman was playing in foul territory- and I have no idea why they would in the first place- but anyway. But, I guess if the umpire feels like a player is delaying the game, he can call a balk. If I was a manager, I would be pretty upset especially since the rules are a little vague here. I wonder if the official scorer charged the balk to the pitcher or not. And I could see being in foul territory being technically not in the field of play.

Personally, if this is what indeed happened, I'm kind of surprised that the umpire just didn't tell the third baseman to get in fair territory. Sounds like some over-officiating to me.

Oh, these are MLB rules by the way.
 

snoopdog

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on third against us. We were intentionally walking a batter to load the bases and our third baseman decided to try to stand behind the catcher in case of a wild pitch. The ump made him stay in fair territory until the pitch was released then he could sprint back behind the catcher. No balk called, but he definitely had to be in fair territory.
 
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Coach34 said:
I've been instructing the kid of my fiance's boss
Am I missing something? Didn't your wife have a kid recently? I remember the whole ***-whipping you were going to lay on a guy at the hospital.
 

Coach34

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the Gene Simmons route for awhile....

And I just told the guy I didnt have time to talk to people that thought Crooms was worth a ****. No assbeatings were threatened what-so-ever
 
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If you had beat his *** and I was on the jury, you would be found not guilty. Anybody who thinks Croom is worth a **** deserves an ***-beating.
 

patdog

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Coach34 said:
<span class="post-title">I'm going</span> the Gene Simmons route for awhile
You're sleeping with 1,000 different women while your partner poses for Playboy and appears in a number of soft-core porn films? Sounds like a great life. Where do I sign up for something like that.