Question From a sh**bird

[HammerOfTheDogs]

No, because Dan Mullen RULES the NCAA.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Prepare thy egos.

Prepare thy anus.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

The best post I've read on here so far.
Either way, There is no use in arguing with y'all this is just kinda fun to do when your football team is Utter trash. Regardless of what I think or what you think, it's about what the NCAA thinks. For the time being, I will continue to look forward to the day when our school can get this behind us.
Y'all do realize that the OM fan base has zero control over what violations their school commits, ZERO of us are happy that the NCAA has been railing us and will continue to rail us before it's all said and done.
But I like to keep things in perspective.
Things are never as good, or as bad as they seem.

Your mom is utter trash.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Well boys, I'm out, y'all are a tough bunch to break!
I'll be back whenever these damn sanctions come out!

No, you won't. DEATH PENALTY, *****!!

 

[Hugh Sleeze]

Is that you Godfrey?

 

[PineGroveBully]

Looks like a non rival to me

 

[PBRME]

I know I’m late to the party but I’ll ask anyway. Where was the outrage when a booster of your university hired private investigators to dig up dirt on MSU then turn it in to the NCAA? Where was the outrage when that booster was photoed leaving a hotel room with the NCAA investigator? Where was the outrage when your university allowed football players to testify against MSU? I can tell you now there was none from your side. You all celebrated and patted each other on the back. Well guess what. The worm has turned. Enjoy your next few years of misery. I know I will.

 

[PineGroveBully]

You can **** in one hand and wish in the other and see which gets full first.

 

[amcdan2000]

I'm pretty sure that your school already admitted they did a bunch of this. Sush you are ruining Mullen's master conspiracy.

 

[ezsoil]

LOL there is no burn.. it's a question.
I want someone to tell me that Ole miss Rootin Darn Crootin is paying their players and then back it up. It's not possible

Well shitbird ..the NCAA did what they could given the fact that they do not have subpoena powers..but from just what your school has admitted....we know players, their families and friends received free lodging, free meals, transportation, and other entertainment on recruitung trips ...and in Tunsil's case an $800.00 cash payment. You can tell yourself that they didn't receive gear from Rebel Rags...but a reasoned person would conclude if they took care of all the other things ...why wouldn't they have them leave campus in gear that tells everyone they are going to represent your school? But if Warren and his ambulance chasing lawyer continue through the legal process....we just may see what a subpoena can do..... as far as proving the current players are being paid....it's pretty much a moot point...maybe the NCAA had enough to bury you already,.....maybe there wasn't anything there....who cares, but Patterson has played his last game in the ***** blue.....and we will see how many of the others stay after the penalties are announced....

 

[OrlandoLundie]

Shame you couldn't drag your arch-rival LSU down with you.

 

[OrlandoLundie]

So you only paid Leo, the guy you didn't sign, but believe all the guys you did sign was just happy accidents and good recruiting? That is your premise? But I'm confused because y'all have said y'all are playing the game (i.e. Paying players) like everyone else and the NCAA just has it in for OM. That's what many of your fans have said. So which is it? Did you pay for players or not? Because y'all have twisted this topic so many times to fit the narrative of the day that we can't keep track. And it looks like y'all can't keep track of the talking points in order either.

Boom.

 

[Shamoan]

Hmm, surely y'all have heard of "mutually assured destruction", right?
The state of MS might be the laughing stock of college football after this is all over.

maybe so....maybe not, but two things are assured:

1: if the state of MS is a laughing stock, ole miss will be the punch line
2: you cocksuckers will have to show an about face in leadership, competency, and appearance of compliance to even sniff a threat to your new msu overloards. Apathy will be at an all-time high and mullens wife loves grocery shopping in Starkville. Enjoy what your tireless cheating has earned you.

 

[Shamoan]

dp

 

[memphisbulldog]

Wait, so do some of y'all SERIOUSLY think that OM has Greg Little, AJ, shea, DKx etc. on contract? Think about that for a second... on CONTRACT. So you mean to tell me that you actually believe that NCAA, while spending 5 years in oxford didn't find out about ANY of this?
I bet you all think that Laquon was paid, right?
mmm don't think so because the NCAA looked into him for months.
Robert Nkemdichi got paid right?
Mmm wrong again! He would have gone to msu if his brother Denzel was at Msu. He was going wherever Denzel was, we got lucky.
Laremy Tunsil?
Well, yeah. 800$ to his stepmom for a utility bill. While not some nefarious plot to get him on campus (he had been at Om for 2 years at this point) it was sloppy and shouldn't have happened.
Shea right?
Well..wrong. His older brother works for the athletics department lololol. Again, WE GOT LUCKY.
In the same way that when people start to clamor about y'all signing 5 stars in MBB (F.E. Reggie perry) yall defend the kid. His dad played for MSU.. no one else knows that so y'all educate them.. and that's totally fine.

the ONLY allegation of Pay for play that was presented at the conclusion of a 5 year investigation was an accusation from a player Who has had ZERO influence on the playing field for the university (Leo)..yet you all take it as gospel that we are paying players left and right? Why is that?
And if we are (and have been) paying players left and right, how the hell has our defense been worse than Satan himself?
I'll hang up.

PS. Feel free to give me **** for posting on yalls message board.

I'm not going to insult you. I posted on an OM board recently about why I thought Mullen would stay and got blasted and ridiculed.

My thoughts:

1. Tunsil's text asking for money sure seemed to be another request of many prior. Can't prove that but the text sure looked routine, not a one time request for help with utilities.
2. The only argument with Leo's credibility on payments come from OM fans. The whole NCAA group has deemed him credible and facts proven. I'm not a conspiracy guy.
3. You have good argument on Robert K and Patterson. Not saying money could not have changed hands but those can be excused.
4. I suspect and would lay odds due to circumstances on players like Treadwell, AJ, etc but no proof.
5. Let me ask you a question. Why do OM fans continue to blame MSU for the whole NCAA deal? MSU did NOT turn you in. If anyone did, it was Alabama. The fact that Leo ended up at MSU and that contributed to your problems, does NOT mean MSU had anything to do with your situation.
6. As another poster said, it's not big money but there are multiple examples of free car rentals, etc.

 

[Rockydawg]

You sure do seem to be awfully emotionally invested in what MSU fans think/believe about the OM football program. GTFO, man. Our mind is on a New Year's Six right now...

 

[pmack65]

Our "football team is utter trash" guess you've not been watching you're fish play. There are 4 bad teams in this conference and you are one of the two bottom feeders. What a buffoon

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

LOL there is no burn.. it's a question.
I want someone to tell me that Ole miss Rootin Darn Crootin is paying their players and then back it up. It's not possible

Are you a betting man? If you are confident ED has a pretty good challenge to OM fans. No one has taken them up on it yet though. Must not be too confident.

 

[$hitbirds]

All I'm saying is, if this situation was flipped, I would HATE that a player from our school turned in our instate rival... far too many skeletons in the closet.
Do you think Alabama and auburn would do this? Ruben foster? Kid grew up in auburn and signed wiith bama and AU was PISSED... they let it go.
And all I'm saying is, y'all can celebrate Leo bringing down ole miss (the ENTIRE 2nd noa is Austin Golson going hunting and Leo) I would just pray that your program is indeed doing everything the right way, and I'm not saying y'all aren't.. it's just a fishy situation when a rival school presents their player to the NCAA. And I was saying om did everything the right way... until we were caught.
FANS. KNOW. NOTHING.

 

[$hitbirds]

Listen fellow rebel grove subscriber, I (can't necessarily speak for all OM fans) do NOT blame Msu for our investigation. We were caught dead to right in the first noa.. it was a good investigative effort by the enforcement staff and thus we self imposed a bowl ban and reduced scholarship, fired Barney (our best recruiter in a ****** recruiting staff), sat the BEST LEFT TACKLE in all of college football for half of the season, serious self imposed recruiting sanctions which we are seeing really affect us right now (our '18 class is abysmal).
What we blame MSU for is having a big part in the investigation continuing, and the long lasting damage that the continuation of the investigation caused.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Did you have this righteous indignation for the Ole Miss players that testified for the NCAA during the last MSU investigation primarily Doug Buckles & Chris Spencer from Madison Central? Should the NCAA have trusted those guys? Their testimony was used to justify our sanctions. These two Ole Miss players received today's version of immunity from the NCAA for their testimony against MSU.

Did you also have the disdain for the Clarion Ledger during the MSU investigation that you have now for Forde & Wolken during the Ole Miss investigation? Rusty Hampton interviewed Brandon LB Ken Griffith for a article about our investigation days after Griffith was interviewed by the NCAA, so obviously someone at the NCAA was feeding the C/L information about the investigation.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

All I'm saying is, if this situation was flipped, I would HATE that a player from our school turned in our instate rival... far too many skeletons in the closet.
Do you think Alabama and auburn would do this? Ruben foster? Kid grew up in auburn and signed wiith bama and AU was PISSED... they let it go.
And all I'm saying is, y'all can celebrate Leo bringing down ole miss (the ENTIRE 2nd noa is Austin Golson going hunting and Leo) I would just pray that your program is indeed doing everything the right way, and I'm not saying y'all aren't.. it's just a fishy situation when a rival school presents their player to the NCAA. And I was saying om did everything the right way... until we were caught.
FANS. KNOW. NOTHING.

OM did exactly this in the past. You had players interview with the NCAA about MSU violations. Alabama and Auburn have done that and more over the years. Whatever y'all think is toxic now (never been toxic when it was us looking at sanctions and testimony from OM players was used) but State and OM level of toxic doesnt touch Bama - AU Level over the years. Not even close.

ETA. We didn't present LL or any other player to the NCAA. They came to the players because of information given to them by another school not in the SEC. That is stated clearly by the NCAA and SEC. Was not even a school in our confernce, much less us, that notified the NCAA about LL recruitment. That is another lie spun by your "insiders" and boards and part of what RR lawsuit is based on. And why it will not go anywhere. You have numerous outside offical sources completely dispelling the idea that we turned OM in. But once the NCAA came, LL and the others are required by NCAA bylaw to agree to an interview and give truthful testimony or be subject of losing eligibility

 

[coach66]

The situation was flipped in the early 2000's, There were several Ole Miss

players interviewed by the NCAA to help put the shackles on us. You had to know this or are you too young?

 

[Rockydawg]

The best post I've read on here so far.
Either way, There is no use in arguing with y'all this is just kinda fun to do when your football team is Utter trash. Regardless of what I think or what you think, it's about what the NCAA thinks. For the time being, I will continue to look forward to the day when our school can get this behind us.
Y'all do realize that the OM fan base has zero control over what violations their school commits, ZERO of us are happy that the NCAA has been railing us and will continue to rail us before it's all said and done.
But I like to keep things in perspective.
Things are never as good, or as bad as they seem.

Walk it back now... now walk it back now...

 

[PBRME]

All I'm saying is, if this situation was flipped, I would HATE that a player from our school turned in our instate rival.

So again. In my post above this, your boosters, administration, and players all turned on MSU resulting in penalties and punishment far worse than the NCAA handed down. Even if, which we didn’t, turn you guys in, don’t you feel it’s karma biting you in the ***?

 

[Rockydawg]

I would HATE that a player from our school turned in our instate rival...

Riiiiight...

And all I'm saying is, y'all can celebrate Leo bringing down ole miss

Get this right: LEO did not bring down Ole Miss. OLE MISS brought down Ole Miss.

 

[Shmuley]

Your tears taste like unicorn steaks. Delicious.

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

Is this what it looks like to be #Obsessed?

 

[Sam Adams Dog]

So how did MSU "keep the investigation going"? The investigation, according to the ncaa continued because both administration and players repeatedly lied to investigators. The Lewis info was reported to the ncaa by somone "outside of the conference" - its in the report.

 

[mount lefroy]

The best post I've read on here so far.
Either way, There is no use in arguing with y'all this is just kinda fun to do when your football team is Utter trash. Regardless of what I think or what you think, it's about what the NCAA thinks. For the time being, I will continue to look forward to the day when our school can get this behind us.
Y'all do realize that the OM fan base has zero control over what violations their school commits, ZERO of us are happy that the NCAA has been railing us and will continue to rail us before it's all said and done.
But I like to keep things in perspective.
Things are never as good, or as bad as they seem.

It’s not the NCAA

It’s us.

Sincerely

Leo, Kobe, and Tunsil’s stepdad.