Question regarding conference future

[MStateU]

What percentage of the votes does it take to remove someone from the conference? I hear the talk of “charter members” having protection but I have a feeling that and $0.50 will get you a cup of coffee.

I imagine with the conference as it stands the original members would protect each other with their votes and not let it reach the threshold to be able to remove one of those teams, but if you inject enough new teams (votes) into the equation anything is possible.

I could be talked into being nervous about blue bloods stuffing the ballot box here.

 

[Dawgg]

It’s 3/4 (currently 11 votes) to add.
It’s 2/3 (currently 10 votes) to remove.

If we add OU & Texas, it becomes:
12 to add
11 to remove

If we add OU, Texas, and 2 more:
14 to add
12 to remove

If we get to 20:
15 to add
14 to remove

So even at 20, you only need yourself plus 6 others to block a removal.

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

The same chicken littles have been talking about State and other small schools getting “kicked out” of the SEC for the past 50+ years, and it has never come even remotely close to being considered by the league. Has any school ever actually been expelled from any power conference? If so I can’t think of any.

The blue bloods do not want us to leave. Alabama sees us as a W every year and an easy trip for their fans. We’ve been with the SEC for 90 years and have a lot of friends in the league office and around the SEC at other schools.

Y’all need to get this notion out of your mind.

 

[MStateU]

Just asking a question.

Thanks for setting me straight. You really gave me the what for.

 

[OliveBranchDAWG]

The same chicken littles have been talking about State and other small schools getting “kicked out” of the SEC for the past 50+ years, and it has never come even remotely close to being considered by the league. Has any school ever actually been expelled from any power conference? If so I can’t think of any.

The blue bloods do not want us to leave. Alabama sees us as a W every year and an easy trip for their fans. We’ve been with the SEC for 90 years and have a lot of friends in the league office and around the SEC at other schools.

Y’all need to get this notion out of your mind.

Yeah this irrational fear that we could possibly be kicked out is pathetic. No other fanbase is discussing this so why are we?

It will never come close to happening.

 

[ZombieKissinger]

I hope not. I’m not worried about it with Texas and OU. Add Michigan, OSU, Clemson to the mix and I start getting nervous

 

[patdog]

If you can’t see that this isn’t the last 50 years, you’re burying your head in the sand. I don’t think it going to happen, but it’s not a big step from blindsiding Texas A&M by bringing Texas in to deciding it might be better to split to pie 12 ways instead of 16.

 

[Felonious Junk]

You don’t think Bama, UGA, Fl, LSU like having conference opponents like State, OM, Ark, Vandy to boost their conference wins? Why would they kick us out? We make them look good by beating our *** every week.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Having Stricklin and Byrne in their current positions would be helpful if that discussion ever started. And Sankey himself has an MSU alum child. We were fine anyway, but we're extra fine now.

 

[DoomSlayer]

I don't think it's impossible by any means but the facts are we are looked at as a win most years by the blue bloods in football and basketball. They don't want every single team to be a mega power.

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

If you can’t see that this isn’t the last 50 years, you’re burying your head in the sand. I don’t think it going to happen, but it’s not a big step from blindsiding Texas A&M by bringing Texas in to deciding it might be better to split to pie 12 ways instead of 16.

Was Texas A&M actually blindsided? Or were they kept in the loop and are just now going public and trying to derail it, since they weren’t getting their way behind closed doors? It’s impossible for me to believe that all 13 other schools were aware, but A&M didn’t know.

Either they all knew, or none of them knew and Sankey was negotiating this himself.

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I think Ross Bjork is just full of ****, which should come as a surprise to no one who has followed his career the last 10 years.

 

[MStateU]

I believe this too. No way 1 school was kept in the dark. It just doesn’t work like that.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was leaked by someone at tam to try to derail it though. They are really being babies about this.

 

[patdog]

I don’t think there’s any doubt it was A&M that leaked this. You don’t leak it if you want it to happen. You leak it if you want to alert people to fight against it.

 

[msstatelp1]

Was Texas A&M actually blindsided? Or were they kept in the loop and are just now going public and trying to derail it, since they weren’t getting their way behind closed doors? It’s impossible for me to believe that all 13 other schools were aware, but A&M didn’t know.

Either they all knew, or none of them knew and Sankey was negotiating this himself.

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I think Ross Bjork is just full of ****, which should come as a surprise to no one who has followed his career the last 10 years.

Tam is playing to their fans and big boosters.

 

[Len2003]

I don't see us getting voted out. I think the more likely scenario would be the SEC dissolving like the Big 12, and we get left out of a bigger conference. That's what TCU and maybe Baylor are facing right now.

The other possibility is the top tier SEC teams leaving to form a new power conference, and we're not invited. Do y'all really think Texas wants to give us an equal share of the pie that they earned? How long until that gets old? I wonder how schools like Bama and UGA feel about sharing equal money with us? Besides having a school to beat up on every year, how does it benefit teams like Bama, UGA, Texas, ect. to have us in the SEC? I'm all for sticking around as the customary win on their schedules if they will subsidize our athletics, but I'm not sure how long that arrangement lasts. We're in the SEC at the leisure of the bigger name schools, and we have no leverage.

 

[MeridianDog]

No other team wants to see MSU, OM, Vandy, or KY pushed out of the SEC. As others have said, we are considered easy wins and in the race for BCS contention, a conference win is a conference win. As much as it seems popular for others posting here to say it, none of these teams is anything but well loved in the conference for the reason I have stated, plus our willingness to vote the conference position in any proposed decision. We need to also remember, those voting are the top administrators (presidents) of each member school. The voters all know and respect each other, and I am suspicious are so accustomed to maintaining the status quo that kicking anyone out for anything other than a huge morality issue that the school refuses to address is not a possibility.

As an old-timer SEC fan, I look forward to facing Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Georgia, Vandy, OM, whoever as a SEC opponent for many years, until it is no longer PC for young men to play football. Honestly, I am more afraid of Soccer, Frisby Golf, Pickle Ball, and tennis taking over as the PC athletic events than being eliminated from the conference as a football, basketball, or baseball opponent.

 

[Dawg496]

Texas A&M is just as manipulative an institution and fan base as they portray Texas to be. I don’t believe for a damn second they would not have been told. This is just their last ditch effort of trying to stop it.

 

[ronpolk]

Yeah this irrational fear that we could possibly be kicked out is pathetic. No other fanbase is discussing this so why are we?

It will never come close to happening.

Agreed. Not sure there is any precedent for this either, in any conference. Has anyone ever been booted from a conference, without being associated with some type of event that would be embarrassing to the conference.

But I also don’t see why anyone would think we should be kicked out. Since Jackie stepped on campus we have generally been respectable in football.

 

[DoomSlayer]

No other team wants to see MSU, OM, Vandy, or KY pushed out of the SEC.

Kentucky is probably the most storied program in College Basketball history, that would keep them safe or get them an invite to a new super conference.

 

[RocketDawg]

I don't see us getting voted out. I think the more likely scenario would be the SEC dissolving like the Big 12, and we get left out of a bigger conference. That's what TCU and maybe Baylor are facing right now.

The other possibility is the top tier SEC teams leaving to form a new power conference, and we're not invited. Do y'all really think Texas wants to give us an equal share of the pie that they earned? How long until that gets old? I wonder how schools like Bama and UGA feel about sharing equal money with us? Besides having a school to beat up on every year, how does it benefit teams like Bama, UGA, Texas, ect. to have us in the SEC? I'm all for sticking around as the customary win on their schedules if they will subsidize our athletics, but I'm not sure how long that arrangement lasts. We're in the SEC at the leisure of the bigger name schools, and we have no leverage.

Neither Texas or Oklahoma would like equal sharing with the lessers, but they might come out ahead financially just being in the best conference in the country. Regarding Alabama and Georgia - they basically have a guaranteed SEC win, each year for Alabama and every couple of years for Georgia - so why would they complain. A conference win has to be worth a lot to them since they're essentially expected to have a perfect conference record.