Does the sixpack have an official stance on eliminating douche-baggery from opposing fans for home games. I brought this up because I anticipate some Vandy fan making the mistake of mocking state fans after a loss on saturday. So what should be the stance of the sixpack regarding this issue? Would this be cause for fisticuffs? Also should the punishment be more strict for a Vandy-fanboy than say an LSU-fanboy?
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Does the sixpack have an official stance on eliminating douche-baggery from opposing fans for home games. I brought this up because I anticipate some Vandy fan making the mistake of mocking state fans after a loss on saturday. So what should be the stance of the sixpack regarding this issue? Would this be cause for fisticuffs? Also should the punishment be more strict for a Vandy-fanboy than say an LSU-fanboy?
Does the sixpack have an official stance on eliminating douche-baggery from opposing fans for home games. I brought this up because I anticipate some Vandy fan making the mistake of mocking state fans after a loss on saturday. So what should be the stance of the sixpack regarding this issue? Would this be cause for fisticuffs? Also should the punishment be more strict for a Vandy-fanboy than say an LSU-fanboy?
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losing record... and the other one is not Vanderbilt. You should also remember that the last time these guys played each other, Vandy walked away with one of the two wins that they got that year. It's one thing for us to let us talk smack, but it is quite another for the Dawgs to allow the Commodores any sort of swagger.
human psyche, please explain what it is about the average rebel state of mind that causes them to point out at every opportunity that MSU sucks all the while ignoring the fact that the rebels well, suck too. It should be law that no rebel should ever utter anything about MSU sucking until olemiss at least plays in atlanta. And why do state fans realize it when we suck and rebel fans don't really understand that going 0-8 in conference is sucking? Please explain these mysteries to me.
calls your wife a *****? I mean, is she? Most women can be, for sure.
Damn, somebody will have to do a hell of a lot more than that to me to piss me off. Now, if someone calls her a ***** and then grabs her or hits her, then I am called to action. But, I am not going to rush to my wife's defense in a name calling session. ****, my wife can handle herself in that circumstance while fetching me a beer at the same time.
Damn, somebody will have to do a hell of a lot more than that to me to piss me off. Now, if someone calls her a ***** and then grabs her or hits her, then I am called to action. But, I am not going to rush to my wife's defense in a name calling session. ****, my wife can handle herself in that circumstance while fetching me a beer at the same time.
Does anyone really think Vandy fans are gonna walk around calling people bitches and starting fights if they win?
Yes. I am marking off my "signs for the end of days" list. This is what i got so far:
5. Lose 3-2 in football.....Check
4. Lose to La Tech after a 8 win season....Check
3. Hear Croom say that all we need to win is more pick-sixes.....Check
2. See an ex-sports reporter chick nominated for vice president.....Check
1. Get mocked by Vandy fans in football.......TBD
5. Lose 3-2 in football.....Check
4. Lose to La Tech after a 8 win season....Check
3. Hear Croom say that all we need to win is more pick-sixes.....Check
2. See an ex-sports reporter chick nominated for vice president.....Check
1. Get mocked by Vandy fans in football.......TBD
Ole Miss vs MSU from 1957-2007
Ole Miss's winning percentage -- .637 (31-17-3)
MSU's winning percentage ------ .363 (17-31-3)
Ole Miss aggregate winning percentage from 1957-2007 -- .5758 (325-238-11)
MSU aggregate winning percentage from 1957-2007 ------- 0.4104 (224-324-10)
Perhaps you meant during the Jackie Sherril Era, since he was the only coach between 1957 and 2007 who did not leave with a losing record
MSU from 1991 to 2003 ------- .5000 (75-75-2) Jackie Sherril
Ole Miss from 1991 to 2003 -- .5855 (89-63-0) Dog Brewer, Joe Lee Dunn, Pine Box Tubberville, David Cutcliffe
Or then again, maybe you are just wrong.
Ole Miss's winning percentage -- .637 (31-17-3)
MSU's winning percentage ------ .363 (17-31-3)
Ole Miss aggregate winning percentage from 1957-2007 -- .5758 (325-238-11)
MSU aggregate winning percentage from 1957-2007 ------- 0.4104 (224-324-10)
Perhaps you meant during the Jackie Sherril Era, since he was the only coach between 1957 and 2007 who did not leave with a losing record
MSU from 1991 to 2003 ------- .5000 (75-75-2) Jackie Sherril
Ole Miss from 1991 to 2003 -- .5855 (89-63-0) Dog Brewer, Joe Lee Dunn, Pine Box Tubberville, David Cutcliffe
Or then again, maybe you are just wrong.
can you give me those records?
And give me 1967-2007 for both schools? I am sure Ole Miss still wins but curious of the numbers.
And give me 1967-2007 for both schools? I am sure Ole Miss still wins but curious of the numbers.
what the hell does any of that have to do with anything? congrats, your football program has historically been better than State's. That is definitely something to brag about.
Im going to assume that since that's about the only thing ole miss football has done in the last 30 years, that's why you are also a usc fan.
Im going to assume that since that's about the only thing ole miss football has done in the last 30 years, that's why you are also a usc fan.
I think. Even coming off a 3-9 season, we were best in the west from 1997-1999 and then beginning on the Summer Soltice of 2000 to the Vernal Equinox of 2002.
The simple fact is, the money sports have been dominated by black athletes ever since the SEC was integrated. Virtually all of the success Mississippi has ever had came when the SEC was a lilly-white as a Klan rally. Since integration, you've been slightely better than us at football and worse than us at basketball.</p>
Much of it comes from the fact that when you compare our football records, there are a few years during which your season record was superior to ours, but on the whole, ours surpasses yours. Beyond that, however, there are differences that run deeper.
1. Cheating Coaches. Our cheater (Brewer) was in the traces for 11 years and managed a record of 68-55-3 (.5516) during that time. Your cheater (Sherrill) was at the helm for 13 years and managed only a break even record 75-75-2 (.5000). Bottom line... we even cheat better.
2. National Confusion. Throughout my time on the West Coast, people have come up to me after a State loss or victory and said, "Hey! Your team won (or loss) yesterday." When my reply was "No. We didn't play" or "Nah. We won (or lost)." They would say, "But aren't you Ole Miss?" My answer, "Yes," is always followed by "Didn't they play Oregon?" "No we played Auburn." "Oh. Who did I watch?" "State." In thirty years, not a single person has ever, EVER come up to me and said, "I watched Mississippi State" when they actually watched Ole Miss.
3. It's a frickin' Rivalry... sort of. I don't think I am supposed to actually acknowledge the fact that we are rivals. Apparently, nothing pisses you guys off worse than for one of us to deny the rivalousity between us, but it is there at some ephemeral level and that's what rivals do... they make fun of each other. It doesn't matter if I am a douche, I'm gonna call you a douche, too.
4. It's hard to watch either program stumble through the season. I swear before God Almighty that I only went to graduate school to legitimately claim another athletic program in times of greatest need. (I was originally accepted to UC Santa Barbara, UCLA, and USC. UCSB was named the Gauchos and didn't have a football program and UCLA had sissy colors so I chose USC... the PhD was a side benefit.)
1. Cheating Coaches. Our cheater (Brewer) was in the traces for 11 years and managed a record of 68-55-3 (.5516) during that time. Your cheater (Sherrill) was at the helm for 13 years and managed only a break even record 75-75-2 (.5000). Bottom line... we even cheat better.
2. National Confusion. Throughout my time on the West Coast, people have come up to me after a State loss or victory and said, "Hey! Your team won (or loss) yesterday." When my reply was "No. We didn't play" or "Nah. We won (or lost)." They would say, "But aren't you Ole Miss?" My answer, "Yes," is always followed by "Didn't they play Oregon?" "No we played Auburn." "Oh. Who did I watch?" "State." In thirty years, not a single person has ever, EVER come up to me and said, "I watched Mississippi State" when they actually watched Ole Miss.
3. It's a frickin' Rivalry... sort of. I don't think I am supposed to actually acknowledge the fact that we are rivals. Apparently, nothing pisses you guys off worse than for one of us to deny the rivalousity between us, but it is there at some ephemeral level and that's what rivals do... they make fun of each other. It doesn't matter if I am a douche, I'm gonna call you a douche, too.
4. It's hard to watch either program stumble through the season. I swear before God Almighty that I only went to graduate school to legitimately claim another athletic program in times of greatest need. (I was originally accepted to UC Santa Barbara, UCLA, and USC. UCSB was named the Gauchos and didn't have a football program and UCLA had sissy colors so I chose USC... the PhD was a side benefit.)
pompous fans have enjoyed NOTHING. NADA. ZILCH.
At least I've been to Atlanta in December. To watch your 'inferior' rival play in a SECCG.
So, don't give me the 'we are a great football power and have so much tradition' ******** that your fans like to spew. Y'all have sucked since black people started playing. That's not being racial. It's pointing out the cold hard truth. Yes, your overall record may be better than ours since 1957 (who gives a ****?), but what have y'all done in the last 50 years worth noting? Because, only 10 years ago, we play for the SEC Championship - something only 1 team in the SEC West has yet to do. And, yes, that 1 team does have 'Mississippi' in it, but it's not Mississippi State.
Oh, and lastly. I'd like to see all those powerhouse teams y'all were beating up on these last 50 years too. It wasn't until about 4 or 5 years ago that y'all actually started scheduling decent OOC competition. Your schedule has ALWAYS been loaded with lolly pop teams, so yes, you won those games and your record is clearly better, but seriously, how many good teams did you beat?
At least I've been to Atlanta in December. To watch your 'inferior' rival play in a SECCG.
So, don't give me the 'we are a great football power and have so much tradition' ******** that your fans like to spew. Y'all have sucked since black people started playing. That's not being racial. It's pointing out the cold hard truth. Yes, your overall record may be better than ours since 1957 (who gives a ****?), but what have y'all done in the last 50 years worth noting? Because, only 10 years ago, we play for the SEC Championship - something only 1 team in the SEC West has yet to do. And, yes, that 1 team does have 'Mississippi' in it, but it's not Mississippi State.
Oh, and lastly. I'd like to see all those powerhouse teams y'all were beating up on these last 50 years too. It wasn't until about 4 or 5 years ago that y'all actually started scheduling decent OOC competition. Your schedule has ALWAYS been loaded with lolly pop teams, so yes, you won those games and your record is clearly better, but seriously, how many good teams did you beat?
which smack talk about Vandy fans. The fact is that both schools have had difficulty attracting and retaining competent coaches, recruiting African-American athletes, and managing the public perception of the State and it's institutions. There were dozens of ways to respond to my post that did not involve the color of an athlete's skin, but it seemed to slip out fairly quickly. Think of the impression that one would have if he were a "Black athlete" or the parent of a Black athlete making a decision about whether to stay at home and play or go elsewhere.
the turning point for contemporary athletics is the acceptance of African-American athletes, how do you explain the continued and generally unequaled success of Alabama, Auburn, Florida, LSU, Georgia, etc.
I am willing to state that the demise of athletics at HBCU's is a result of the movement of Black athletes to Division One programs, but I do not think that it follows that Ole Miss and Mississippi State suck because of that. In fact, since we have many more Black athletes at both schools, it is self-defeating to argue that in the face of our suckitude.
As far as patsy teams, I recall T Roosevelt's rally cry.... "Remember the Maine!"
I am willing to state that the demise of athletics at HBCU's is a result of the movement of Black athletes to Division One programs, but I do not think that it follows that Ole Miss and Mississippi State suck because of that. In fact, since we have many more Black athletes at both schools, it is self-defeating to argue that in the face of our suckitude.
As far as patsy teams, I recall T Roosevelt's rally cry.... "Remember the Maine!"
He makes a good point Briandawg. I think you are out of your league in this debate.uscreb said:
And to pile on the patsy schedule comment...people also remember the Troy, the LA Mon (twice in recent history), LA Tech, UAB, Houston, & Tulane. Everybody in the SEC pads their schedule, but some people lose to those teams.
is like a Pittsburgh Pirates and KC Royals fan arguing about which team has gone the longest without a winning record.
We both suck. You may have gone to graduate school to get a PhD but you are still an insipid moron if you think OleMiss is somehow better off than MSU when it comes to football prowess.
And if you seriously think people outside of the south know of OleMiss but don't know of Mississippi State you are an even bigger idiot. I had 3 people come up to me and ask how I felt about Mississippi State beating Florida. I had to tell them that was OleMiss not Mississippi State. All 3 responded something like "oh, I just knew it was one of those Mississippi Schools". Noone outside of Mississippi gives two flyings ***** about the difference in MSU or OleMiss unless their team is playing them. To them, they are both mediocre schools with one conference championship appearance between them in the modern era of SEC football.
We both suck. You may have gone to graduate school to get a PhD but you are still an insipid moron if you think OleMiss is somehow better off than MSU when it comes to football prowess.
And if you seriously think people outside of the south know of OleMiss but don't know of Mississippi State you are an even bigger idiot. I had 3 people come up to me and ask how I felt about Mississippi State beating Florida. I had to tell them that was OleMiss not Mississippi State. All 3 responded something like "oh, I just knew it was one of those Mississippi Schools". Noone outside of Mississippi gives two flyings ***** about the difference in MSU or OleMiss unless their team is playing them. To them, they are both mediocre schools with one conference championship appearance between them in the modern era of SEC football.
because OleMiss has never lost to inferior out of conference opponents.
Signed,
Memphis in 2003, 2004, Wyoming in 2004, 2005. Seriously whats the difference in losing to Tulane and losing to a 4-7 Wyoming team? The answer? Nothing they are both horrible and should never happen to an SEC team.
Signed,
Memphis in 2003, 2004, Wyoming in 2004, 2005. Seriously whats the difference in losing to Tulane and losing to a 4-7 Wyoming team? The answer? Nothing they are both horrible and should never happen to an SEC team.
to the discussion. You said that MSU was one of two SEC programs with an all-time losing record and the other wasn't Vandy. But in the modern era:
MSU - 187-207-5
UM - 194-202-4
Vandy - 117-271-3
So yeah, it's pretty damn relevant. We both have plenty of room to talk **** to Vandy about their football program, but precious little to talk **** to each other.</p>
MSU - 187-207-5
UM - 194-202-4
Vandy - 117-271-3
So yeah, it's pretty damn relevant. We both have plenty of room to talk **** to Vandy about their football program, but precious little to talk **** to each other.</p>
He's talking about why UM shouldn't suck after integration because Mississippi has a higher black population than any other state. But he ignores the fact that Mississippi's black population isn't that much more than most other souther states. And he completely ignores the fact that you actually have sucked in football ever since integration (whether he thinks you theoretically should have sucked or not). In fact, as I point out in my post a few minutes ago, MSU and UM have sucked pretty much equally since integration.
didn't still wave rebel flags at all of their games until about 10 years ago? Plus, they have much more money than either of us have. And I use this as the basis for the turning point for contemporary athletics for one reason - because black kids dominate rosters throughout the country today. Since integration (at a school who just recently stopped waving the Confederate Flag at football games), you haven't done jack ****. Y'all won when it was Whitey McWhiterson from Whiterstown playing a bunch of other whiteys. Face it, today's game has totally changed from when y'all ever did ANYTHING. Sorry if you can't accept that, but it's the truth.