While it definitely dissappointed me to lose to Memphis those years, they were pretty good bowl teams (9-3,8-4). Same with Wyoming's bowl team in 04 (7-5). No excuse for Wyoming 05. I do acknowledge that Houston bowled in the years they beat yall (7-6, 6-6). UAB also bowled (7-5). However, there is still no excuse for Tulane, La Tech, La Mon, Troy, Maine, etc. Those were bad teams and you are comparing 4 bad losses for us to 9 by MSU.Brutius said:
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integration. You might as well blame Space travel and color tv, both of which occurred about that time.
My point was that both MSU and Ole Miss have Black athletes now. In fact, I think both teams are predominantly Black and it does not seem to have changed our fate in any discernible way. The real turning point was the the limitation of scholarships which caused a growth of parity among Division One schools. The integration issues are a straw man variable for the most part. What has changed in large measure is that the HBCU programs like Grambling, Southern, Jackson St., etc. that used to send dozens of players to the NFL every year are now getting fewer and fewer blue chip guys. The impact of integration was to give Black athletes many, many more choices of schools that sought their services... ask Hugh Green and Marcus Dupree.
I think it is unnervingly important to recognize that the top Black and White athletes from Mississippi often choose to go elsewhere to school. In the early 1960's Black kids went to HBCU's and White kids went to OM or MSU. That is simply not the case any longer. Over the last two years, Alonzo Lawrence, Andre Wadley, Stevan Ridley, Jeramie Griffin, Chaz Ramsey all left the state. These guys were all four or five star kids and this has been going on for over a decade. Integration has little to do with it. We get local kids who are grade risks or who have some attachment to the institution and while it does not seem like a huge exodous, when the top two or three players in the state leave every year, across the depth cycle of five years, it mounts up.
My point was that both MSU and Ole Miss have Black athletes now. In fact, I think both teams are predominantly Black and it does not seem to have changed our fate in any discernible way. The real turning point was the the limitation of scholarships which caused a growth of parity among Division One schools. The integration issues are a straw man variable for the most part. What has changed in large measure is that the HBCU programs like Grambling, Southern, Jackson St., etc. that used to send dozens of players to the NFL every year are now getting fewer and fewer blue chip guys. The impact of integration was to give Black athletes many, many more choices of schools that sought their services... ask Hugh Green and Marcus Dupree.
I think it is unnervingly important to recognize that the top Black and White athletes from Mississippi often choose to go elsewhere to school. In the early 1960's Black kids went to HBCU's and White kids went to OM or MSU. That is simply not the case any longer. Over the last two years, Alonzo Lawrence, Andre Wadley, Stevan Ridley, Jeramie Griffin, Chaz Ramsey all left the state. These guys were all four or five star kids and this has been going on for over a decade. Integration has little to do with it. We get local kids who are grade risks or who have some attachment to the institution and while it does not seem like a huge exodous, when the top two or three players in the state leave every year, across the depth cycle of five years, it mounts up.
That all sounds well and good. Except for the fact that the advent of black players in SEC sports actually has a damn thing to do with SEC sports. Your height, space travel and color TV; not so much.
How fortunate for you that you now live in a prograssive state where all the black athletes stay in-state. Well, except for about 2/3 of the Oregon State football team.
Y'all, at one point, were good. That time was a long time ago, when only whitey played. Your overall record obviously reflects those teams' records, but if you look at what's happened since integration, you simply have not done ****. Yes, we both have AA players and have since integration. The reason y'all didn't maintain a good program since that time is the good AA players didn't want to come play in front of thousands of Confederate flags, what your school is known. So, get off your high horse about being so much better than State in football. The fact is, you were able to attract top athletes at one point in time. And that point in time, my friend, was before integration.
Are you the same guy that gets into a fight when someone calls you a son of a *****, you son of a *****?
Sticks and stones?????? ****, never mind.
Sticks and stones?????? ****, never mind.
I'm sure you are still laughing at the joke Theodore made at the lab today about the mass of Berkelium. That one that Sheldon made about the Weizsacker-Bethe nuclear mass formula in relationship to calculated r-process abundances was a hoot too.
Excuse our feeble brains while we tell you that you are full of ****. Even though it's true (not literally of course, THAT wouldn't be funny or witty!!!!!), we just can't keep up with your amazing wit.
Your friend,
Brutius
Excuse our feeble brains while we tell you that you are full of ****. Even though it's true (not literally of course, THAT wouldn't be funny or witty!!!!!), we just can't keep up with your amazing wit.
Your friend,
Brutius
Nail on the head. We both suck. Accept it and life will be much more enjoyable. That's one of the biggest problems at Ole Miss, they still hearken back to the "glory days". Ah yes, the days when Ole Miss was good, Elvis was king, and most of us weren't yet living. In the MODERN era of SEC football, both MSU and Ole Miss suck. Doesn't matter which one is slightly better than the other, we both suck to the rest of the country. We are mixed up all the time by the "experts". The idea that nobody mistakes Ole Miss for MSU is ridiculous. Most people don't care about MSU and Ole Miss. It's a hard truth, but a truth nonetheless. I urge you to accept it and move on.
One of the most aggravating things is having an Ole Miss fan either try to explain the game of football to us or tell us how we should feel or react to a certain instance in football. If you hopped off of your high horse for a minute you might realize we are both the short stocky kids in the neighborhood. We can have success, but we aren't LSU, Auburn, UT, Florida, UGA, etc.
One of the most aggravating things is having an Ole Miss fan either try to explain the game of football to us or tell us how we should feel or react to a certain instance in football. If you hopped off of your high horse for a minute you might realize we are both the short stocky kids in the neighborhood. We can have success, but we aren't LSU, Auburn, UT, Florida, UGA, etc.
Nice try...
You should just give it up now..
Ole Miss and MSU are both horrible at football and will always be the bottom feeders of the SEC.
Just learn to accept it and move along..
You should just give it up now..
Ole Miss and MSU are both horrible at football and will always be the bottom feeders of the SEC.
Just learn to accept it and move along..