Quote from CBSSports.com article on Arnett Moultrie...

[squirldawg]

<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">CBSSports.com</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">Prior to Mississippi State, Moultrie, 6-11, was at UTEP, where his play was overlooked consistently. To be fair, he wasn’t playing good teams and UTEP wasn’t as good as the Bulldogs are now. He also did not score (less than a point per possession), shoot (just above 50 percent from the floor) or rebound (good-not-great rates of 10.3 on offense and 19.1 on defense) as well while a Miner. He lacked drive.</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">“I didn’t always have this work ethic I have now,” Moultrie told me last week. “Once I transferred, that’s what triggered it. That's when I started to work more.”</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">
</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">So, does Stansbury not get credit for this player development of a transfer?</p>

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[squirldawg]

<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">CBSSports.com</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">Prior to Mississippi State, Moultrie, 6-11, was at UTEP, where his play was overlooked consistently. To be fair, he wasn’t playing good teams and UTEP wasn’t as good as the Bulldogs are now. He also did not score (less than a point per possession), shoot (just above 50 percent from the floor) or rebound (good-not-great rates of 10.3 on offense and 19.1 on defense) as well while a Miner. He lacked drive.</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">“I didn’t always have this work ethic I have now,” Moultrie told me last week. “Once I transferred, that’s what triggered it. That's when I started to work more.”</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">
</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">So, does Stansbury not get credit for this player development of a transfer?</p>

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[squirldawg]

<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">CBSSports.com</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">Prior to Mississippi State, Moultrie, 6-11, was at UTEP, where his play was overlooked consistently. To be fair, he wasn’t playing good teams and UTEP wasn’t as good as the Bulldogs are now. He also did not score (less than a point per possession), shoot (just above 50 percent from the floor) or rebound (good-not-great rates of 10.3 on offense and 19.1 on defense) as well while a Miner. He lacked drive.</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">“I didn’t always have this work ethic I have now,” Moultrie told me last week. “Once I transferred, that’s what triggered it. That's when I started to work more.”</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">
</p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); ">So, does Stansbury not get credit for this player development of a transfer?</p>

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[gravedigger]

I'd attribute that to Arnette deciding to get serious IN SPITE of the poor coaching now. He's nba material Stansbury or not. He has to make the decision to play like that.

 

[squirldawg]

Moultrie was averaging less than 10 points a game and less than 10 rebounds a game at UTEP. I would say the difference is night and day against tougher competition and I am sure the coaches have had something to do with his motivation.<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div>

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

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[hotdigitydog]

the inner drive that some people have, while some just don't have that......Even with that being said, I think Stans should get some credit however.......

 

[squirldawg]

productive. With that said, Sidney is getting better. Most coaches wouldn't be able to handle everything that has transpired with Sidney and still keep team chemistry.<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div>

 

[KurtRambis4]

now. Don't you know? Stansbury can't do one thIng right and is a terrible coach.

 

[dawgstudent]

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[BoDawg.sixpack]

Why some can't see this is somewhat of an enigma around here.</p>

 

[gravedigger]

Something that has motivated him.I'm only contending its not Stansbury but himself and the idea that he had to step up due to limited time after transfering.

Of course it could be people around him.

I can understand you disagreeing. But ridiculous?

Explain that.

 

[gravedigger]

is playing more aggressivly and using thatGod given talentthan in his 1st year...... really.

 

[patdog]

But I think you're actually serious. Un-17ing-believable.

 

[RocketCityDawg]

That's the predominant mantra on this board.

 

[Faustdog]

But I think you're actually serious. Un-17ing-believable.

Yep. We're sitting at 15-3 with a Top 20 ranking right now when no one without MSU ties expected it. The board is almost unreadable during basketball season. It's like no one watches other college basketball teams play. Our flaws are ones that no other teams have, and they are all caused by Stans. He deserves no credit for the good and all the credit for the bad.

 

[Hanmudog]

It is like some of the posters on here have never in their life seen a team other than MSU play.We have flaws just like every other team but there are a hell of alot of college basketball fans around the country that would love to be in the position we are right now instead of bitching about their coach's wife cheering too emphatically or complaining after beating one of the best defensive teams in the nation because our offense was stagnant.</p>

 

[dawgstudent]

someone comes on here and says Stansbury doesn't deserve credit. But everything bad is all on Stansbury. It's hilariously ridiculous.

To me, the most amazing thing he has done is get Sidney to accept his role on the team.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

Yes we expect players to improve as they age,but its not just rebounds and points with this guy. He plays smart, doesn't make a lot of dumb passes, doesn't take many bad shots, doesn't turn the ball over much. He is so well rounded.

 

[Tds &amp; Beer]

or if State was known for working hard. But that's not the case. Moultrie started working harder because Moultrie decided he needed to work harder. Just like if Sidney ever decides he wants to work harder, he will. It won't be because of Stansbury. He can't even get all of his players in shape. Not to mention, Moultrie had an NBA caliber center on his team that took away a lot of his rebounds and scoring.

 

[Seinfeld]

who saw Zimmerman, Bowers, Frazier, Rhodes, and Varnado as freshmen and then watched what they became could possibly say that Stansbury has never developed a player. Those are just a few examples and whether he actually did it himself or it was someone on his staff, the progression happened under his watch. There are plenty of things to blame Stans about, but there are plenty of players that have improved drastically while playing for him.

 

[Tds &amp; Beer]

someone comes on here and says Stansbury doesn't deserve credit. But everything bad is all on Stansbury. It's hilariously ridiculous.

To me, the most amazing thing he has done is get Sidney to accept his role on the team.

That's how bad he is. And why would Stansbury deserve credit for Sidney? Wait, Ok. I will give Stansbury credit for Sidney. I give him partial credit for sidney playing to 1/3 of his potential and not getting in shape after three years. Ok I can live with that. The reason Stans gets no credit is because Stansbury doesn't do anything. He is barely a coach at all.

 

[TexasHoopCoach]

someone comes on here and says Stansbury doesn't deserve credit. But everything bad is all on Stansbury. It's hilariously ridiculous.

To me,<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;"> the most amazing thing he has done is get Sidney to accept his role on the team. </span>

Never thought about it that way, but that is head on....

 

[patdog]

If Stans is barely a coach at all, how in the hell did we go from 3 NAAA tournaments in 30+ years before he took over and one of the bottom feeders in the SEC to one of the stronger programs in the conference and a fairly regular NCAA tournament team? Good lord, some of you people are idiots.

 

[dawgstudent]

that's how I view Sidney. It's up to him if he wants to capitalize on his ability and it's not like he is playing like crap. I like where he is right now.

 

[Hanmudog]

or if <font color="#990000">State was known for working hard.</font> But that's not the case. Moultrie started working harder because Moultrie decided he needed to work harder. Just like if Sidney ever decides he wants to work harder, he will. It won't be because of Stansbury. He can't even get all of his players in shape. Not to mention, Moultrie had an NBA caliber center on his team that took away a lot of his rebounds and scoring.

Hell, working hard is the one thing Stansbury's teams have always been known for (except for last years team with Kodi and Ravern). I lost count of how many times we have led the SEC in either rebounding or defense which is all hard work. And besides Sidney when have we ever had a player that was out of shape?

I suggest you either take a break from MSU basketball or learn to enjoy winning.

 

[EAVdog]

I've never seen a player go from where he started to where he ended up. If he could hold another 30lbs on his frame he'd be in the NBA right now and not overseas.

 

[Tds &amp; Beer]

or if <font color="#990000">State was known for working hard.</font> But that's not the case. Moultrie started working harder because Moultrie decided he needed to work harder. Just like if Sidney ever decides he wants to work harder, he will. It won't be because of Stansbury. He can't even get all of his players in shape. Not to mention, Moultrie had an NBA caliber center on his team that took away a lot of his rebounds and scoring.

Hell, working hard is the one thing Stansbury's teams have always been known for (except for last years team with Kodi and Ravern). I lost count of how many times we have led the SEC in either rebounding or defense which is all hard work. And besides Sidney when have we ever had a player that was out of shape?

I suggest you either take a break from MSU basketball or learn to enjoy winning.

I suggest you pay more attention to the games. If we worked hard we would work hard on offense too but we don't. If we worked hard, every team we played wouldn't be in better shape than us, but they are. If we worked hard, all of those developed players that were mentioned above wouldn't have left MSU with twigs for arms. Keep up, bro. Pick up a basketball for dummies book when you head out this afternoon.

<div>But whatever you say, man. Yeah Stansbury deserves credit for Moultrie working harder, even though Sidney is a lazy, out of shape fat-***. Stans deserves all credit for Moultrie, even though Moultrie played for UTEP two years ago and had an All-American caliber center stealing his stats. I dare you to go back and watch that UTEP team play and tell me they weren't coached as well as this team. </div>

 

[tenureplan]

If you can't see a night and day difference from the last 3 games in terms of his attitude and hustle, then you either haven't been watching or you are just trying too hard to hate him.

 

[Repeat Offender]

I am curious to know how you would evaluate other coaches in the SEC. Yes, Stans has the luxury of coaching at a basketball mecca (Starkville, MS), but how would you explain his success over the years considering that he is such a poor coach. He won the overall SEC title in 2004 and has several SEC tournament titles even though he is competing against Florida, UK, Ut, etc.. You believe that this team is out of shape, lazy, and that they have not been exposed to good coaching yet they are ranked as high as 15th in the nation. Please explain why these other schools that have excellent coaches and great facilities can"t out perform Stan's MSU teams. By the way, recruiting is a crucial element of coaching, I just thought that I would point that out to you. Of course, we should never give Stans credit for that either, we all know that most of the nation's top bball talent grows up dreaming about the possibility of playing in the Hump one day.**** Also, Vanardo (twig arms and all), managed to block more shots than any player in the HISTORY of the game, imagine what he could have become if he had a decent coach. I would like to know who you would choose to take Stans place, I assume that it would bea coach of one of the 14 schools that are actually doing better than us this year. Calipari, Drew, Phil Jackson??? I am sure that all it would take is one phone call and they would be in Starkville tomorrow.</p>

 

[Jacknut1]

for Moultrie (and other players who have developed well under Stans), but he sure is hell is 100% at fault when someone doesn't perform well. Have some balance! And here's a newsflash, Stansbury has never been an offensive-minded coach, ain't gonna happen.

 

[00Dawg]

with somebody on BDJ last year about guard improvement under Stansbury. The trends from freshman to senior were always positive, but generally showed only minor improvements after the sophomore or junior year, depending on the player. The best example of someone who improved in almost every statistical category year over year for 4 straight was Slater.

 

[dawgstudent]

is Arnett Moultrie. We don't need Sidney to get 15 and 8 this year. Moultrie can do that. And on some nights, Sidney can go for 20+ points and has an unbelievable offensive game. That's an awesome weapon to have. You just have to live with his defense. On a few possessions, he let Mitchell get down low so easily that I was getting ready to yell at the TV.

 

[Hanmudog]

I guess you are right then. It is just a damn miracle that we can be 15-3 and ranked 15th in America with such lazy ***, out of shape players and sorry coaching. We must be the most talented 17ing team in history to overcome all of that.

 

[patdog]

apparently all that talent just decided to come to Starkville and play at MSU in spite of all the ****** coaching they knew they were going to get here.

 

[hatfieldms]

No going back now

 

[fishwater99]

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[patdog]

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[MadDawg.sixpack]

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