This brainwashing and indoctrination is disgusting.
http://nypost.com/2016/07/01/elite-k-8-school-teaches-white-students-theyre-born-racist/
http://nypost.com/2016/07/01/elite-k-8-school-teaches-white-students-theyre-born-racist/
Radical Left Wing Extremists
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Totally divisive in itself. We obviously have a fair number of graduates of this school or other school with the same curriculum. They have learned well. They see all issues in terms of color. I do not think we have any posters that see the world as anti-black and there ate no apologies for seeing things in balance as black or white. Then we have those who see everything as white with no balance in black. They apologize to the black for all things not being given equally. The investment made for success is not from an individual's hard work. The President sees unfairness in everything and any success anyone has is because of someone else. No one can influence the future says the president. It is not with investment in ones self because through someone else an individual is successful.
If you think that "unfairness" is do to the lack of hard work.....then you truly are blinded by WHITE. The history of our great nation, and pretty much the entire world, has always had the minority groups (race, social classes, etc.) taken advantage of and not included equally. I'm not talking about a situation where someone expects a job and don't have the qualifications. I'm talking about the complete and intentional discriminatory actions to prevent a person, or group, from gaining strength or power.
Do we have groups of people who expect "handouts"? Sure. But I could argue that your super wealthy groups also expect handouts as well (ex. tax breaks, plea bargain deals for financial crimes, etc.).
You point blame at our president. Forgive me, but what makes YOU an expert on discrimination? I'm pretty sure his life has experienced him a bit more than yours. Each week, just by going to town and walking the stores I see racism. And it's not because "black" expects a handout. It's attitudes like yours that builds up the racist attitudes. Trying to say that one race of people or group of people want something "given" to them.
Learn your history. Dating all the way back to the Civil War, we freed the slaves, then won the war, and then gave the lands back to the plantation owners and put the newly freed men back on the plantations as sharecroppers. I guess those people "expected" too much.....their FREEDOM and FAIRNESS.
Damn, you are stupid. I said zero about groups. I have seen successful blacks, women, whites who started without a change of clothes and built an empire. You are stupid if you think the world will ever be divided equally. The freed people were given the opportunity to earn and own property. Some had success and became owners while others chose to continue to work as sharecroppers. I do not know why one man chose to make the best of his new found freedom while others chose the comfort of continuing to work the fields for the assurance of basics.
We definitely see the world from different perspectives.
One should not expect to have riches thrust upon them for being present. Hard work and good education do not guarantee success, but it will sure as hell multiply chances.
Paragraph 1: There are untold numbers of people who grew out of the situation they were born into. Usually via better education and or hard work.
Paragraph 2: You could argue anything you want, but people with wealth do not want special treatment nor do the want to be treated differently because of their wealth. There are exceptions to all, but I doubt you can give proof of your statement for generalities, but for exceptions.
Paragraph 3: I am not an expert, but I too see racism. I see more racism from minorities than I see from whites. If you do not, you are blinded by hate of those who have more than you. I have not suggested race drives one group. My only "attitude" is against those too lazy and dumb to provide for themselves and their family. Now, you suggest and attitude against those who have had success in life.
Paragraph 4: I would suggest it is you who needs to learn. The Constitution is what is supposed to govern this land. If the plantation owner owned the property prior to war, those owners cannot be required by law to split their assets to assure that everybody have holdings.
Now YOU are the one that is dumb. Those plantation owners committed treason by supporting an army in rebellion against its nation. They DID NOT PAY TAXES to the federal government during that time. Thus, the federal government could have LEGALLY took their land as payment.
You are not a minority, thus you cannot speak about what they have been through. It's easy to say the "everyone gets a fair shot" statement when you are not the minority.
And you claim to not have singled any group....go back and read your post. You slanted heavily anti-black.
Congratulations for repeating the dumbest logic ever. So shocked you would go there. What minority do you represent?
Obama is responsible for a lot of this racial problems we have. It's the worst it's been since the mid 60s. Even the knowledgeable blacks are fed up with this community organizer
This is called an "opinion"......which you are good at giving, poor at giving FACTS. Perhaps the reason YOU see it as being worse now is because minorities are frustrated at what seems to be a renewal of the old policies that deprive them of a lot of possibilities to better themselves?
Care to provide facts and not opinions to back up all these local, poluce and employment policies that reverted back to the old ways?
You seem confused........great nation and then you do an 180 degree turn. Which is it?
This is a great nation! We just have some major problems that some people don't want to deal with.
I agree.......and you are one of those who refuses to deal with the major problems,slaughter in our cities, political cronyism run amok,political ambition before right and wrong.....etc......
I surely am glad that you were never in charge of anything. You want to perpetuate the Civil War into today. Glad we had people who said it is over and time to reunite. Some wise fellow even wrote a piece "Four score and seven years......" You may want to read the Gettysburg Address and listen to the words. The wise man did not want to penalize those who lost the war, nor even the ones who participated. This is the kind of logic that I subscribe to.
You, on the other hand, felt the war was so unjust that you have a need to penalize those who participated. Perhaps you subscribe to modern view instead of taking realistic view of the times. Exercising the modern view of publishers of history is nearly 180% from the history in the view at the time. I am not sure the modern view is even possible. The only way history can be corrected to your belief is to go back and have a redo of the past. You want the world to be divided equally so that no one has less than the other. I do not think th0se who have had success are going to be willing to divide what they have earned/accumulated with those who have been less fortunate. The land owners are not going to willingly divide. Even if government attempts to abscond and divide, it is going to be met with resistance.
I have been fortunate enough to had some success in life even though I was borne and reared in Southern Appalachia WV. I went to school and worked hard and paid for my own education. I have had some luck along the way, but principally have worked for an education and worked a bit harder at my profession to raise and educate my family. I do be damned if I am going to share my accumulations with someone who elected to go the welfare route. In my situation, I could have easily gone the dole role, but I wanted more for myself and those around me. I wanted more than a "payday' on the 3rd of each month at the post office. And I apologize to no one for having an interest in advancement.
Let me try to break my point down in simple terms that even an old, racist fart like yourself can understand:
Southern Plantation owners DID NOT PAY THEIR TAXES. Thus, the federal government COULD LEGALLY take their property for failure to pay. It's not out of "punishment".....it is the LAW!
And I've done well for myself also. You aren't the only success story from West Virginia.....
How do you know he hasn't been in charge of anything? How do we know you have had success in your life?. You run your mouth off assuming you know things about people you've never met. I doubt you've never been in charge of anything in your life.
If this is open to the floor, I'd like to further educate you.
Local politicians (including school boards) and judges have reversed desegregation policies in Tuscaloosa, Charlotte, Nashville, Oklahoma City, and other cities (especially throughout the south) over the last decade. Desegregation had been wildly successful in those areas resulting in drastic increases for minorities in test scores, graduation rates, and extracurricular participation rates. The argument that those districts had successfully desegregated, thus not needing the local mandates anymore, has resulted in immediate declines in the gains minorities achieved. Those districts, within just a few years, have seen segregation greatly increase and result in the original issues that required the mandates to decades ago. Reverting to the old practices has drastically hurt minorities.
Compounding that problem - which are other examples of local mandates reverting back to policies hurting minorities - are the cuts in funding/denial of approval for charter schools in inner cities and the trend of school vouchers dropping off. For a decade, local policies in many cities and suburbs were approving charter schools and passing legislation for school vouchers to be used. These allowed minorities the ability to be given access to schools with better resources. Yet, those trends have quickly dropped, resulting in the same issues faced by minorities in decades past.
The repercussions attributed to subpar educational options like above is clear. What may not be so clear is how that problem is magnified by recent reversions at the local level for increases in minimum wage. If educational options are low or of poor quality, the result is an unskilled labor force in that area. But, the world needs ditch-diggers (or orange cone droppers), too, right? So, those unskilled workers can still find employment, albeit low paying, in many industries. For instance, while I lived in DC, an associate of mine started making a small fortune flipping dilapidated houses in Baltimore. He would gobble up numerous shells of houses on the same street at a time, many times, for $10,000-$15,000 per property. He would hire unskilled labor to come in and remove all of the junk and garbage. With a lower minimum wage, he was able to employ the unskilled labor for months at a time and allow them to put food on their tables. Further, he also would frequently hire parolees. Part of their parole requirements was to stay employed. But, not too many people are willing to hire felons. So, in order to not go back to jail and be able to make some money, these parolees worked their asses off for a wage slightly above minimum. They didn't have much to offer in skills, but they were able to haul junk and garbage from houses which were getting crushed. But, Baltimore then went back to an age-old policy; increasing the minimum wage. Their new legislation has forced employers to pay an increase of $3/hour more over a three year period. So, just do the math. Assume the contractor is working on two of the shells at the same time. He has three low-skilled guys working on each house (six total). He pays each of them for eight hours of work per day. That is 48 hours of work, total, he pays the unskilled labor per day. With an increase of $3/hour, that means his locally mandated increase will be $144/day. Assuming the guys get one day off per week, it means 26 days of paying the increase in a month. This small businessman needs to come up with over $3700/month (not counting a higher employment tax if they are his employees instead of independent contractors). What is he going to do? If he has to pay $11/hour, with an assumption that it will probably jump to $15/hour shortly thereafter, he will be forced to 1) let guys go 2) hire skilled workers who can also do electric/plumbing work and do the menial tasks during slow times. By letting guys go, they are usually minorities who are out on parole . . . which leads to a different but related topic of institutional racism in crime, policing, judicial system, employment, education, housing, etc.
As the original poster mentioned, policing policies have reverted back to hurting minorities . . . and I'll use an example that fits local, employment, and police policies all at the same time.
A Denver area police force originally had to change their hiring practices in order increase the number of minorities they had on force. Even though the local population had a nearly 50% rate of blacks and Hispanics combined, the police force rate of those minorities was under 10%. As a result, they changed the hiring requirements (I've given an example of how institutional racism at the educational level impacts employment opportunities). It resulted in a slight increase in actual minority hires, but a drastic increase in minority applications. Yet, these increases weren't good enough for the good ol' boy hiring network. So, they voted to revert back to their original requirements in hiring. I believe that this was challenged legally over the last year or two, but I haven't looked to see the outcome of it.
These are just a few examples fitting what you requested for the original poster to explain. I could spend a much longer time discussing how institutional racism, including reverting back to certain practices, has continued to negatively impact minorities at all levels.
No need to thank me. I look at it as charity work to be able to educate those who haven't had as much success and luck in life; I can teach while relaxing on the beach everyday, and you can learn after coming home from a long day of designing where to put orange cones on highways.
Are you always this stupid to be critical of a practice in one sentence and the very next sentence you apply it to yourself? I have never met him and you have never met me.
Typical weak response but that's what I expect from you. You couldn't run a 7/11
How much property taxes does anyone pay Fed Govt . Do you really pay property tax to fed? You may want to get Cooper to help you with tax situation.
Minority? No. Nearly everyone grew up dirt poor in Southern WV in my time. Some rode the govt dole roll. Others worked, or went to school , or both to grow out of that destiny.
Gee whiz. Do you know anything about history? How did the federal government get Arlington National Cemetery? Yeah.....it was Robert E. Lee's land that was SEIZED by the government at a TAX auction.....
Fastest growing cities? I can see Charlotte. I could see Nashville a couple of years ago when they were building everywhere. But, Tuscaloosa and OKC? I don't see it.
Least amount of minority crime? Links, please. I can't recall ever seeing those numbers.
Higher rated education in the country? I think we all can agree that the higher rated education areas are where the Ivys are as well as Palo Alto (Stanford), Boston (MIT), Cal Tech (can't think of what city it's in). Sure, Vandy has great academics, but it is far behind those others and on par with UVA, Duke, etc. In terms of higher rated high school education, the DC area overwhelmingly dominates those ratings. Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Bethesda/Chevy Chase, and a couple of other Virginia suburbs all are some of the very top rated areas for high schools. I've never read anything about any of the cities we are discussing being some of the highest rated in high school education.
If you meant areas most/best educated per capita, I could possibly see Charlotte in there, but I can't imagine very high. Smaller cities with huge colleges tend to do well in those categories, which Tuscaloosa could possibly make, but I'd assume it's behind many other large college towns. OKC and Nashville? I don't see it.
Ha. Nothing had to be googled. I suggest you do start googling since your response seems false and without evidence. I can't imagine a search of "what old policies that have again been implemented at the local level or police or education" would yield too many promising results.
One of my examples was a personal experience (Baltimore). The Tuscaloosa article I had read mentioned the other cities . . . I've also recently read another southern city which recently did it. I believe it, too, was in Alabama. That article was within the last month. One example I had an argument with my mom about last night, as she is a bleeding heart liberal whom I had to educate on the negative effects of a quick, big minimum wage increase (though i didn't use the same examples as in this thread). I can tell you what led to that discussion. The other example was an article I read a year or two ago, hence why I wasn't sure if the reverted policy was actually implemented.
I have a Master's from an HBCU. Much of my time pursuing it was spent playing my natural devil's advocate role to those professors/students taking my position in this tread. So, like most other topics, I'm much better versed on policies impacting minorities and institutional racism than the normal highway worker.
And I don't understand the Knox reference.
But, I can appreciate your attempt in deflecting the fact that you challenged the other poster's contentions multiple times, and it blew up in your face.
Nope. Never said it was. However, the same thing COULD have been done to the plantation owners in the South but the government decided that "40 acres and a mule" wasn't possible.....yet they could gain land for a federal cemetery.
Then, I certainly congratulate you on your success. And, I would be considered to have had a little success. Using education and a little hard work, I have been able to provide for and educate my entire family. How were you able to accumulate anything with the belief that everyone should have their fair share. I am sure you paid more taxes than required and at the end of the year, you distributed the balance to the well being of the community. Or are you the liberal who divides the other persons' wealth while holding onto your own? Probably only liberal with others holdings like a lot of the liberals on this board.
Enough, you are an idiot and a waste of my time. You cannot even stimulate a reasonable discussion. I will look in on you from time to time to expose you on other stupid remarks.
It is corrupt. You destroy the markets for the Plantation owners goods via war and then take their land for unpaid taxes? That is pretty shady. After the war the government needed a viable economy in the south.
Come on racist old man. You made claims that the federal government couldn't seize land following the Civil War, yet they did and I proved they did. You were proven wrong, again!
As for my success, I've done my part and continue to do so. I don't point fingers at people because of their skin or religion.....I'll leave that to you.
First off, they destroyed the land because of the war. Nothing corrupt about that.
Second, those plantation owners didn't pay taxes. They openly supported a rebellious group, thus committing treason. Their lands could have, and SHOULD have, been confiscated and given to the oppressed.
Third, the north began helping the south construct factories and agriculture (at a large scale) was no longer needed. These people did not need their 100's of acres to continue enslaving (yes, sharecropping was enslavement...maybe worse) the newly freed African-Americans.
I didnt bother reading your book because I didn't ask for your opinion and I don't care. I asked someone to give some facts to support their claim because that person had just requested others to do the same thing. Then my stalker shows up to talk about his great life. A life so great that you sit on the internet hoping to respond to my every post in an attempt to validate your own wishes to feel superior. Booooooring. Have a nice holiday stalker.
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You didn't read it because it provides the statistics and information that back up a claim that you do not support. Be honest...
You wouldn't know a fact if it hit you in the face.I know you can't hear me chickenhawk
No, no they didn't. Because they seized Robert E. Lee's land for federal government gains. That was private property as well, just like the plantations.
I didnt read it because I dont care what he says. I am still waiting for you to provide information about all these good ole boy policies that have been installed to scare minorities. If I were you I wouldn't use towns like Charlotte and Tuscaloosa who have largely been managed by minorites the previous 7 years.
Don't let him lie to you like he does to everyone. He read it. Hell, his wife read it. He has a post on the woodshed in which he admits that his wife goes to the Marshall boards and reads my posts. Yet, he has the audacity to claim I'm the stalker.
And, he will hide from the incorrect information that he posted that I called him out on.