Raiola, Lateef or?

[redwine65]

until you have a consistent oline, a big 10 team will have to have 2 high fuctioning qb's to make it thru the season.
see raiola in ny for example, or simms, or thompson, or or or...even frazier needed time off....

I know youngster qb's think they can start and play consistently...but experience says otherwise

 

[Laner2]

..who hasn't crashed on a bike and broke their fibula? ...out of all my broken bones that day, the fibula was the easist to recover from. No biggie. Especially for somebody his age.

Does it ALWAYS have to be about you?

 

[Anon1751408132]

you answered with "your opinion is wrong"

it's not.

B1G is awful outside of ohiost. 3rd best P4 conference according to actual games played.

It's your opinion and it's wrong

 

[king_kong__]

It's your opinion and it's wrong

It’s neither.

Unless you don’t think actual games played on the field matter?

 

[orclover11]

I'm so much locked in to THIS season that I can't even let myself worry about happens next year. TJ has 3 more "interviews" before any of this even matters. I guess it comes with old age but I'll patiently wait and see how these interviews go before I even think about what happens next year. I'm the walking definition of "enjoying the ride".



Holla

I hear you. In my mind every week we are 0-0. I don't have any friends or coworkers who even care about husker football anymore let alone other teams like Iowa or Wisconsin, so there isn't even anyone to talk **** to if we are good. It used to be fun to read headlines about how good the huskers were or hear pundits criticize the team, only to have them go out and blow everyone out. But those years were unique by any program at any time and won't be coming back. I can barely even find husker scores on espn anymore so just have to enjoy the games and move on to other things.

 

[orclover11]

indiana never plays anyone. certainly never beat anyone.

their best win in the last 2 years is against oregon, which I agree is extremely overrated.

You really are delusional. There isn't a tougher game than traveling across the country to play a top 5-10 Oregon team in their place. And Indiana won by double digits, which is a rare feat in Oregon. Illinois beat a team that beat us and Indiana beat them by 100. They blow everybody out or beat the playoff teams on the road. What else do you want them to do?

 

[king_kong__]

There isn't a tougher game than traveling across the country to play a top 5-10 Oregon team in their place.

I’m the delusional one?

Okay.

 

[4norsemen]

Something someone brought up that I never really considered, even though I’ve mentioned it several times when talking about the future of the QB room. Lateef was always planning on sitting behind Dylan through at least next season. Unless his motivations have completely changed, I would expect Lateef back next season, as well as Dylan. QB debate aside, that is a GREAT position for our room to be in. I personally would rather have TJ as the starter at this moment, but I want that to be settled in a true, honest, and fair QB competition over this coming spring and summer. Whoever the starter is, I got faith in them to run the offense. We’ve seen both of them do it very well.

Don't think Indiana is any good? I agree the BIG is overall OVER rated. But I think Indiana and OSU are pretty damn good.. But teams like Oregon, USC, Michigan are definitely not as good as most BIG fan's would have e u believe.




Holla

Sam has Iowa at #6 B1G. That isn't a powerful look for the league.

 

[skin-tight]

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[dinglefritz]

You really are delusional. There isn't a tougher game than traveling across the country to play a top 5-10 Oregon team in their place. And Indiana won by double digits, which is a rare feat in Oregon. Illinois beat a team that beat us and Indiana beat them by 100. They blow everybody out or beat the playoff teams on the road. What else do you want them to do?

I believe some of Oregon’s problem in that game was that they had 3 new transfer O line starters who hadn’t figured out how to play together very well yet. They’ve done nothing but get better since then.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

I believe some of Oregon’s problem in that game was that they had 3 new transfer O line starters who hadn’t figured out how to play together very well yet. They’ve done nothing but get better since then.

I think overall, Oregon is just not as good as they've been the last few years. Still a very good team, but it looks like, on most days, there are 3-4 teams that would handle them.

The improvement IND has made is they've now been involved in 3-4 tight squeezes against good teams and they are just gonna be tougher to knock out than even last year. I do think OSU, GA, and maybe 1-2 other teams can beat them this year. Beating ORE, IA and PSU on the road is something only a couple teams could have pulled off this year.

 

[konaki]

Oregon and Indiana are very good, but they are still not at Ohio States level. Ohio State reminds me of what Nebraska was in the mid nineties an almost unstoppable force and hated by most.

 

[king_kong__]

I think overall, Oregon is just not as good as they've been the last few years. Still a very good team, but it looks like, on most days, there are 3-4 teams that would handle them.

this, I thought, was obvious.

can't run the ball. down to #3 WRs at nearly every position outside. QB not nearly as dynamic as we're used to seeing. secondary bereft of the usual NFL talent.

it's apparent people don't actually watch much football on a week to week basis.

ND would destroy oregon if they played tomorrow regardless of where the game takes place.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Oregon and Indiana are very good, but they are still not at Ohio States level. Ohio State reminds me of what Nebraska was in the mid nineties an almost unstoppable force and hated by most.

OSU just has that defense that can smother almost all offenses. Great receivers, a QB who stays within the offensive scheme and a boatload of squad talent.

For two years, they really have not been blowing teams out, but lots of 34-7 and like scores.

In 10 games this year, they've given up:
2 shutouts, 3, 6, 7, 9, 10, 10, 14 and 16 points. That's smothering defense.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

this, I thought, was obvious.

can't run the ball. down to #3 WRs at nearly every position outside. QB not nearly as dynamic as we're used to seeing. secondary bereft of the usual NFL talent.

it's apparent people don't actually watch much football on a week to week basis.

ND would destroy oregon if they played tomorrow regardless of where the game takes place.

So, it would be stealing money kinda like your Bowling Green -3 v. Akron? BTW Akron won outright.

 

[king_kong__]

So, it would be stealing money kinda like your Bowling Green -3 v. Akron? BTW Akron won outright.

strange game. BG had plenty of chances.

even the best gamblers (not me by any means - I am generally terrible) lose!

but also yes would be stealing

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

strange game. BG had plenty of chances.

even the best gamblers (not me by any means - I am generally terrible) lose!

but also yes would be stealing

Wasn't mocking you cause college football can be tough week to week.

I'm more of a sandwich type player. Who did they play last week and who will they play next week, and how does that affect the way they likely play today?

You always have a good handle on teams like say, Cincy. As we both said, Cincy is a good team, but their season will be determined by how they come down the stretch. They can go from 7-1 to 8-4 real quick as they reach the meat of their schedule now.

BTW, the "bounce" theory in horse racing is very similar to a team bouncing in college football. It's been that way for decades.

 

[TheRealPeliniTheCrutch]

BTW, the "bounce" theory in horse racing is very similar to a team bouncing in college football. It's been that way for decades.

100%

 

[orclover11]

Oregon and Indiana are very good, but they are still not at Ohio States level. Ohio State reminds me of what Nebraska was in the mid nineties an almost unstoppable force and hated by most.

The irony of saying that Indiana hasn't played anyone and then touting OSU as some world beater. They have one of the easiest schedules in the country...their one tough game was Texas, which isn't looking very good right now. I would take Indiana over OSU because Indiana has an absolutely dominant oline and a better, more well-balanced offense...plus the experience of winning at Penn State, Oregon, and Iowa. The big 10 is just so awful right now that it is really hard to predict how these teams will play against the big 12 or sec. I assume the SEC will embarrass the big 10 and the discussion of breaking up the big 10 will begin.

 

[dinglefritz]

Something someone brought up that I never really considered, even though I’ve mentioned it several times when talking about the future of the QB room. Lateef was always planning on sitting behind Dylan through at least next season. Unless his motivations have completely changed, I would expect Lateef back next season, as well as Dylan. QB debate aside, that is a GREAT position for our room to be in. I personally would rather have TJ as the starter at this moment, but I want that to be settled in a true, honest, and fair QB competition over this coming spring and summer. Whoever the starter is, I got faith in them to run the offense. We’ve seen both of them do it very well.

Early on this fall Rhule stated that they didn’t intend to redshirt TJ. He said “He’s our backup. He’s not redshirting.”. Is this another Frazier situation where a freshman takes over the starting role midway through the year and never gives it up? I think they knew what they had in TJ but just wanted to bring him along slowly. Obviously the injury and his insertion has created an interesting situation. Dylan was trolling some of us with his social media recently. Time will tell.

 

[dinglefritz]

The main issue is you can't spend 3-4 million on a qb position when you have holes on both lines. As much as "money isn't a problem", more money would get better players. Lateef isn't staying for free, and Dylan could want even more than 2 million since he will still be one of the most statistically impressive qbs in the nation. Lateef will need to look perfect the next two games against really good defenses to consider risking losing Dylan. TJ just doesn't have the record of consistency and we don't really know his skill set once teams begin to game plan for him.

It sounds like money isn’t a problem unless we’re banging heads maybe with Phil Knight or Mark Cuban for “that guy”. Well have a much better picture of the situation by the end of Black Friday.

 

[dinglefritz]

I doubt Lateef will require 3-4 million but he will require some major coin if he proves to be all he is what I think he is. Dylan will be laid up for awhile there is no denying the injury was quite severe and because surgery was required who knows how long before he is 100%. Lateef is our QB and will have to be paid or a QB will have to be brought in through the portal which I don't want to see.

I’m pretty confident Dylan will be available for spring ball. Heck he could possibly play in a bowl game.

 

[dinglefritz]

Just go back and watch the end and see the absolute joy on Dana Holgorsens face as he congratulates Lateef, it tells you all you need to know about how he sees Lateef as his QB. Lateef ran the offense exactly the way Dana Holgorsen game planned it for him, and I couldn't have been happier except I wish offense would have kept the foot on the pedal and not eased up.

Joy? Or disbelief that his backup played as well as he did? No doubt Dana was very happy for TJ.

 

[Spectrumalaska]

Early on this fall Rhule stated that they didn’t intend to redshirt TJ. He said “He’s our backup. He’s not redshirting.”. Is this another Frazier situation where a freshman takes over the starting role midway through the year and never gives it up? I think they knew what they had in TJ but just wanted to bring him along slowly. Obviously the injury and his insertion has created an interesting situation. Dylan was trolling some of us with his social media recently. Time will tell.

Thinking TJ is Tommie redux is pretty wishful thnking I feel. I hope you are correct!

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Early on this fall Rhule stated that they didn’t intend to redshirt TJ. He said “He’s our backup. He’s not redshirting.”. Is this another Frazier situation where a freshman takes over the starting role midway through the year and never gives it up? I think they knew what they had in TJ but just wanted to bring him along slowly. Obviously the injury and his insertion has created an interesting situation. Dylan was trolling some of us with his social media recently. Time will tell.

The story I heard, and it may or may not be true, but Frazier told TO before the MIZZ game to either start him or he was going back to Florida. As we all recall, Mike Grant totally sucked as a QB and that situation was different in that an injury didn't elevate Tommie, poor performance by the starting QB did.

Although it's a pretty high bar, I'm more reminded of Turner Gill when I look at TJ's QB style and skill set. Good speed but far from a Crouch/TMart/AMart burner, good not great arm, but hopefully makes few mistakes like Turner did.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

I’m pretty confident Dylan will be available for spring ball. Heck he could possibly play in a bowl game.

Have no idea of the true timeline of DR being physically cleared to play by bowl time.

If so, it's just as much to get back into action as it is to prove to the portal that he's physically able to perform.

 

[dinglefritz]

Have no idea of the true timeline of DR being physically cleared to play by bowl time.

If so, it's just as much to get back into action as it is to prove to the portal that he's physically able to perform.

A lot depends on how much damage was done to his interosseus ligament. There’s a good sized artery that can be torn and if that ligament that holds the fibula to the tibia is severely torn that takes longer to heal. That was Taylor Martinez’s problem.

 

[steinek11]

Early on this fall Rhule stated that they didn’t intend to redshirt TJ. He said “He’s our backup. He’s not redshirting.”. Is this another Frazier situation where a freshman takes over the starting role midway through the year and never gives it up? I think they knew what they had in TJ but just wanted to bring him along slowly. Obviously the injury and his insertion has created an interesting situation. Dylan was trolling some of us with his social media recently. Time will tell.

It’s gonna be fun to see what the offense looks like with Holgerson having the right type of quarterback in place. If it goes according to plan, there’s no turning back. The Raiola experiment will be over. I see this as a failure on the part of Rhule for recruiting quarterbacks with different skill sets. He wanted a shiny five star in the trophy cabinet. We just wanna win as many games as possible.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

A lot depends on how much damage was done to his interosseus ligament. There’s a good sized artery that can be torn and if that ligament that holds the fibula to the tibia is severely torn that takes longer to heal. That was Taylor Martinez’s problem.

Let's hope not, because the one thing that Dylan can't afford is to lose is any more of his ability to run.

 

[konaki]

What is the story on Dylan's injury? He had surgery but it's been kind of mum around the Nebraska camp about his prognoses going forward. If someone has some concrete information I wish they would share or is this just pure speculation.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

It’s gonna be fun to see what the offense looks like with Holgerson having the right type of quarterback in place. If it goes according to plan, there’s no turning back. The Raiola experiment will be over. I see this as a failure on the part of Rhule for recruiting quarterbacks with different skill sets. He wanted a shiny five star in the trophy cabinet. We just wanna win as many games as possible.

I agree with most of the first portion of your post.

I 100% agree with your 2nd to last sentence, and 1000% with your last sentence.

 

[dinglefritz]

Let's hope not, because the one thing that Dylan can't afford is to lose is any more of his ability to run.

TM’s problem was that they kept playing him and didn’t give it enough time to heal.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

TM’s problem was that they kept playing him and didn’t give it enough time to heal.

TMart had blistering speed, one of the 3-4 fastest QB's I've ever seen for 0-10 yards.

 

[konaki]

I agree with most of the first portion of your post.

I 100% agree with your 2nd to last sentence, and 1000% with your last sentence.

It's not like Dylan is an average college QB, to me he was just always in a system that didn't fit his style. Dylan is better suited to play in a place like Georgia, probably where he should have stayed committed to. Matt Rhule's first big mistake was making Satterfield the offensive coordinator, that set the offense back a few years.

Since Matt Rhule started his coaching career at Nebraska in 2023 Nebraska has had pretty bad QB play until Dylan came in 2025 and Dana Holgorsen Replaced Satterfield as OC. You can see where the offense is headed with the recruitment of a different style of QB coming in (Trae Taylor).

Matt Rhule is going to have a hard job keeping TJ Lateef once the portal opens because I don't see Dylan leaving for his final year of college ball, he won't go pro in 2026 he needs one good year if he can get healthy.

This is why I keep asking the same question, how bad is Dylan's injury and how long is the recovery going to take? If Dylan can't go in the spring it helps Rhule convince Lateef to stick around and possibly be number one in the fall. jmo

 

[Spectrumalaska]

TM’s problem was that they kept playing him and didn’t give it enough time to heal.

Didn't he kick a locker in frustration and only make things worse?

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

It's not like Dylan is an average college QB, to me he was just always in a system that didn't fit his style. Dylan is better suited to play in a place like Georgia, probably where he should have stayed committed to. Matt Rhule's first big mistake was making Satterfield the offensive coordinator, that set the offense back a few years.

Since Matt Rhule started his coaching career at Nebraska in 2023 Nebraska has had pretty bad QB play until Dylan came in 2025 and Dana Holgorsen Replaced Satterfield as OC. You can see where the offense is headed with the recruitment of a different style of QB coming in (Trae Taylor).

Matt Rhule is going to have a hard job keeping TJ Lateef once the portal opens because I don't see Dylan leaving for his final year of college ball, he won't go pro in 2026 he needs one good year if he can get healthy.

This is why I keep asking the same question, how bad is Dylan's injury and how long is the recovery going to take? If Dylan can't go in the spring it helps Rhule convince Lateef to stick around and possibly be number one in the fall. jmo

In the perfect system, say Miami (Fla) in their heydey with immobile QB's like Kosar, Torretta, and Walsh he would fit in because their OLine almost made their QB's untouchable in the pocket. But, the game has changed so much there are only a handful of teams that would go after Dylan,and none of them are top teams.

Had Dylan stayed committed to GA, he would have been the backup to Carson Beck 2 years ago, and a backup to Gunner Stockton this year. Dylan's thing is he isn't gonna go anywhere where starting isn't a given.

Guys like Cignetti, Freeman at ND, Kiffin, and the other top guys just are not gonna limit their offensive styles with an immobile QB like Dylan. Even Matt, with TJ and Taylor coming in are covertly saying that an immobile QB is NOT the way to go.

Dylan has been given way more free reign to play QB than any coach committed to winning, and winning big is going to give. Those coaches are paying an OC a $ 1M or $ 1M+ to call plays, not some 19-20 year old athlete. There's the right team out there for Dylan, it just isn't Nebraska.

He's another Shadeur Sanders but without the footspeed. They're both gonna hold the ball too long and suffer too many sacks.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Didn't he kick a locker in frustration and only make things worse?

Could be, I hadn't heard that, but I know he and Pelini had many public and presumably private dust ups.

 

[OxfordComma]

TMart had blistering speed, one of the 3-4 fastest QB's I've ever seen for 0-10 yards.

No doubt. TMart’s top end speed was very good, but what made him special is that he could hit his top end speed in about 3-4 steps it seemed. Like he had a B button he could push whenever.

 

[konaki]

In the perfect system, say Miami (Fla) in their heydey with immobile QB's like Kosar, Torretta, and Walsh he would fit in because their OLine almost made their QB's untouchable in the pocket. But, the game has changed so much there are only a handful of teams that would go after Dylan,and none of them are top teams.

Had Dylan stayed committed to GA, he would have been the backup to Carson Beck 2 years ago, and a backup to Gunner Stockton this year. Dylan's thing is he isn't gonna go anywhere where starting isn't a given.

Guys like Cignetti, Freeman at ND, Kiffin, and the other top guys just are not gonna limit their offensive styles with an immobile QB like Dylan. Even Matt, with TJ and Taylor coming in are covertly saying that an immobile QB is NOT the way to go.

Dylan has been given way more free reign to play QB than any coach committed to winning, and winning big is going to give. Those coaches are paying an OC a $ 1M or $ 1M+ to call plays, not some 19-20 year old athlete. There's the right team out there for Dylan, it just isn't Nebraska.

He's another Shadeur Sanders but without the footspeed. They're both gonna hold the ball too long and suffer too many sacks.

Oh I agree he doesn't fit what Nebraska is trying to do offensively but Nebraska's biggest problem is the amount of time and money invested in Dylan not to mention family. And of course we have Matt's stubborn nature at times of sticking with the some wrong decisions he makes from time to time.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

TMart had blistering speed, one of the 3-4 fastest QB's I've ever seen for 0-10 yards.

In track and field, the 0-10 meter mark is one of the key metrics in developing speed.

Clearing the blocks, ankle, knee and hip in perfect alignment, proper weight distribution between hands and hips, breaking inertia with proper angle into upward body movement. Maximum speed at 60 meters before deceleration begins. Running is technical.

OT: The fastest guy in college has run a 22.4 mph rate, with pads.
Usain Bolt was clocked at 27.88 mph. That is other wordly.