Raiola, Lateef or?

itseasyas1-2-3

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Oh I agree he doesn't fit what Nebraska is trying to do offensively but Nebraska's biggest problem is the amount of time and money invested in Dylan not to mention family. And of course we have Matt's stubborn nature at times of sticking with the some wrong decisions he makes from time to time.
Those are the type of head coaching decisions that define a career .500 coach.....
 

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In track and field, the 0-10 meter mark is one of the key metrics in developing speed.

Clearing the blocks, ankle, knee and hip in perfect alignment, proper weight distribution between hands and hips, breaking inertia with proper angle into upward body movement. Maximum speed at 60 meters before deceleration begins. Running is technical.

OT: The fastest guy in college has run a 22.4 mph rate, with pads.
Usain Bolt was clocked at 27.88 mph. That is other wordly.
Arch Manning ran 20.7mph on a TD run and he's only a 4.6ish 40 guy. That's pretty damn fast.
 

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What is the story on Dylan's injury? He had surgery but it's been kind of mum around the Nebraska camp about his prognoses going forward. If someone has some concrete information I wish they would share or is this just pure speculation. 🤷‍♂️
His leg has its own Instagram page, so that’s where you would go to keep up to speed on its recovery. The little pinky is hilarious btw. Always punking people on campus.
 

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Early on this fall Rhule stated that they didn’t intend to redshirt TJ. He said “He’s our backup. He’s not redshirting.”. Is this another Frazier situation where a freshman takes over the starting role midway through the year and never gives it up? I think they knew what they had in TJ but just wanted to bring him along slowly. Obviously the injury and his insertion has created an interesting situation. Dylan was trolling some of us with his social media recently. Time will tell.
What’s ironic is TJ was well on his way to redshirting this season before Dylan broke his leg. If memory is correct, he only played in Akron and HCU. He wasn’t gonna play in the USC game, likely wasn’t gonna play in any of the other games after. So he absolutely was redshirting. Maybe Rhule meant it in the sense of he’s not being held out. Typically the redshirt players wouldn’t be on the 2-deep, so that’s why he said he’s not redshirting. To me, if you say he’s not redshirting, that means he’s playing. Like getting snaps in more than 4 games. I believe the plan was always to “redshirt” him this year or next year, while still also having him “available”.
 
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I’m pretty confident Dylan will be available for spring ball. Heck he could possibly play in a bowl game.
Depending on the severity of the fracture, he’s looking at 8 weeks absolute minimum. Closer to 12 is normal. Bowl game is out of the question, IMO. I’ve always felt he’d be back by spring ball, and I hope so. It would be good for the offense to have him and TJ competing for QB1 all spring and summer.
 

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A lot depends on how much damage was done to his interosseus ligament. There’s a good sized artery that can be torn and if that ligament that holds the fibula to the tibia is severely torn that takes longer to heal. That was Taylor Martinez’s problem.
I thought T-Mart had a plantar fascia issue his senior year?
 

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It’s gonna be fun to see what the offense looks like with Holgerson having the right type of quarterback in place. If it goes according to plan, there’s no turning back. The Raiola experiment will be over. I see this as a failure on the part of Rhule for recruiting quarterbacks with different skill sets. He wanted a shiny five star in the trophy cabinet. We just wanna win as many games as possible.
I don’t disagree per se, but when we had absolutely nothing at QB after 2023, I would have taken whatever QB was available. We’re fortunate enough a 5 ⭐️ recruit chose us, despite having an offense that legitimately could not throw the ball to save any child from Iowa’s Children’s Hospital. Despite having Satterfield as a top 10 paid OC in America. Despite having a very rough offensive line. Now, the recruiting of QBs has drastically changed since Dylan committed to Nebraska. I do agree with that. TJ and Trae can move. We also have a different OC. One of the variables in this QB room equation is going to have to conform.
 

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Everyone can speculate. Sample size right now not even close enough to consider tbh. I'm on record as being a guy who likes a more mobile QB for the college game. All things equal or even close to equal in the pass game I'd go mobile guy. That said we haven't seen anything close to enough to say they are close in the pass game.

I know everyone wants to rush to make judgements or rush to be right but it'll play out. Do we hate TJ and want Dylan back if TJ has a bad game at PSU or Iowa? Do we STILL judge everything game to game like we have did this team all year? Can we simply let it play out and end of the year count up wins and losses and what u do or don't like and make a judgement off of the whole body of work from EVERYBODY??

We as fans need to relax and let it play out. We will know soon enough. Support em all and let's see what happens.




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These next two games are going to say a lot about where these two quarterbacks are on the pecking order. I would feel considerably better if Lateef keeps showing progression. Although I'm expecting him to look like a freshman tonight and against Iowa. Nothing wrong with it as these are two solid defenses he will be facing. I will say with this Oline and the game plan of getting the ball out quickly it tends to lead in Lateefs favor. But I just can't help to think what Raiola would be with just an average B1G offensive line. Allow those speedy receivers to get down field, which would slow down Raiolas progressions to come off of them so quickly.
 

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I would love to see both of them come back and that is a possibility because Dylan may not be ready health wise. But going forward Lateef is the type QB built to run Holgorsen's offense better than Raiola. Raiola is a very talented QB but he's better suited in an offense that can give him the type protection he requires to be successful, he's never going to be a scrambler or RPO type that Nebraska needs.
QBs transfer. It's common these days. Nebraska is no different. I think the odds are strong that one or the other returns. Then the third most likely scenario is that both QBs transfer. The least likely scenario is that both guys return. Sounds crazy that neither QB returning is a possibility, but I think it's a lock that at least one hits the portal in January. There ain't gonna be no QB competition.
 
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QBs transfer. It's common these days. Nebraska is no different. I think the odds are strong that one or the other returns. Then the third most likely scenario is that both QBs transfer. The least likely scenario is that both guys return. Sounds crazy that neither QB returning is a possibility, but I think it's a lock that at least one hits the portal in January. There ain't gonna be no QB competition.
I'm still waiting to hear how significant Dylan's injury was and is, and as I've been saying for weeks how bad is it. One thing is for sure, it's been very mum with no information from the Nebraska athletic department and the surgery took place weeks ago. Unless news has come out and I've totally missed it I don't know what to make of the silence about his injury and recovery.
 
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I'm still waiting to hear how significant Dylan's injury is but as I said it's been very mum from anyone who knows on the Nebraska side of things and the surgery took place weeks ago.
Just by reading the tea leaves and not from any inside information, I think that Dylan didn't progress this season like many expected he would. At the current pace, I think that the tire old narrative that the Husker media types are sticking with, that Dylan is gonna go pro after three years, is no longer likely. So who's fault is it? I don't know, but that's where Dylan could look to finding a different place to play-- if he's gonna play four years anyway, just as well look around.
 

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I guess many don't understand the ramifications of Dylan's injury going forward. The reason and only reason I keep bringing up Raiola's injury and recovery has to do with TJ Lateef as our QB going forward. If Dylan's injury is more severe than we know and recovery will take longer than expected then it only makes sense who your QB will be in the spring and who Matt Rhule will have to invest in. Yes you could go out and get a QB from the portal but he will have to learn while TJ already knows the playbook. I guess it will all come out after the bowl game. jmo
 

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Functional ability won't be very well understood for 3 months for DR and coaching staff. I suspect that he will have a full recovery.
 

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QBs transfer. It's common these days. Nebraska is no different. I think the odds are strong that one or the other returns. Then the third most likely scenario is that both QBs transfer. The least likely scenario is that both guys return. Sounds crazy that neither QB returning is a possibility, but I think it's a lock that at least one hits the portal in January. There ain't gonna be no QB competition.
If TJ balls out these last 3 games, I doubt any amount of money could keep them both here. Only one QB plays, and they will both have offers to be the guy somewhere. I think the only way NU doesn’t have to choose between them is if one wants to leave without hearing any counter.

On the other hand, TJ could be exposed and abused these last two games plus the bowl game. Not rooting for that scenario.
 
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DR supposedly ( I say that because I have not seen this for myself, just read it ) took down all the NU stuff on his Instagram page and is now following guys who play for Oregon. Dylan has one goal in mind, to play in the NFL. And with the tape he has here, he will either not be drafted or be a late pick, or an UDFA. My opinion is Dylan has accomplished about all his is going to here, and would like the next two years to improve his draft stock. As I have said, a LOT of teams will need QBs next year. LSU, Oregon, etc.

As for who is the better fit here, from what I have seen so far, Dylan has issues with floating the ball, giving defenders time to catch up to or defend the pass. Lateef throws dimes. So far his passes, although a small sample, show he has a knack for throwing his receivers open, and his passes are a direct strike. Receivers are not having to wait on the ball. Plus he is a running threat. My prediction is Dylan moves on to a better program, TJ gets the keys to the offense, and we end up with a new O line coach, and hopefully new S & C people. Dylan's draft stock might well improve and we move forward with an offense that is harder to defend.
 

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DR supposedly ( I say that because I have not seen this for myself, just read it ) took down all the NU stuff on his Instagram page and is now following guys who play for Oregon. Dylan has one goal in mind, to play in the NFL. And with the tape he has here, he will either not be drafted or be a late pick, or an UDFA. My opinion is Dylan has accomplished about all his is going to here, and would like the next two years to improve his draft stock. As I have said, a LOT of teams will need QBs next year. LSU, Oregon, etc.

As for who is the better fit here, from what I have seen so far, Dylan has issues with floating the ball, giving defenders time to catch up to or defend the pass. Lateef throws dimes. So far his passes, although a small sample, show he has a knack for throwing his receivers open, and his passes are a direct strike. Receivers are not having to wait on the ball. Plus he is a running threat. My prediction is Dylan moves on to a better program, TJ gets the keys to the offense, and we end up with a new O line coach, and hopefully new S & C people. Dylan's draft stock might well improve and we move forward with an offense that is harder to defend.
Again TJs only start came against UCLA let’s see what he does against lot better defenses in pedo st and Iowa
 

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What’s ironic is TJ was well on his way to redshirting this season before Dylan broke his leg. If memory is correct, he only played in Akron and HCU. He wasn’t gonna play in the USC game, likely wasn’t gonna play in any of the other games after. So he absolutely was redshirting. Maybe Rhule meant it in the sense of he’s not being held out. Typically the redshirt players wouldn’t be on the 2-deep, so that’s why he said he’s not redshirting. To me, if you say he’s not redshirting, that means he’s playing. Like getting snaps in more than 4 games. I believe the plan was always to “redshirt” him this year or next year, while still also having him “available”.
My position on redshirting has always been the vast majority of OL and DL linemen need to put on good weight as well as get stronger as they learn the system. The QB's/RB's/WR's/DB's don't have that same requirement cause athleticism is the main requirement.

Look at the difference in freshmen OL and DL linemen who are in a contribution phase as true freshmen versus true freshmen in the other positions I mentioned.

Typically, those redshirted linemen aren't going anywhere through the portal for at least a couple years, where you lose players is in the skill positions who want to play, and have the physical tools, just not the physical maturity needed to compete with 22 and 23 year old men in the trenches.

There's too much money floating around to not play talented freshmen nowadays. No reason TJ shouldn't have appeared in much more than 2 games prior to DR being injured. Then would be much less angst heading into these next two games if TJ had more game activity under his belt, he may have answered some questions by now.

Is he or isn't he the guy that's gonna be able to play with the next two big boy teams? In a few series against MICH, MINN, MARY, NW we could have a better idea, as would the coaches.

If DR recovers, now we're stuck with a statue back there when CLEARLY the point going forward is to have mobile QB's. It's gonna be like a wasted year next year, then we can begin the 5th year "process" of straightening out this program.
QBs transfer. It's common these days. Nebraska is no different. I think the odds are strong that one or the other returns. Then the third most likely scenario is that both QBs transfer. The least likely scenario is that both guys return. Sounds crazy that neither QB returning is a possibility, but I think it's a lock that at least one hits the portal in January. There ain't gonna be no QB competition.
I agree with the 2nd to last line which would result in the last line being correct.
 
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If TJ balls out these last 3 games, I doubt any amount of money could keep them both here. Only one QB plays, and they will both have offers to be the guy somewhere. I think the only way NU doesn’t have to choose between them is if one wants to leave without hearing any counter.

On the other hand, TJ could be exposed and abused these last two games plus the bowl game. Not rooting for that scenario.
I agree. Both these teams as well as potentially the bowl opponent will either prove he has what it might take or he doesn't. I hoping he is in that Turner Gill mode.
 

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Again TJs only start came against UCLA let’s see what he does against lot better defenses in pedo st and Iowa
I think that's 100% the concern for all Husker fans. If he balls out, and we can keep him along with Taylor coming in, NU could be real salty in a couple years. I mean, playing with the big boys salty.
 
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We better hope TJ stays healthy these next two games or were down to our third string QB and then it's what? We are playing two physically tough teams that know we are one player away from going down and getting blown away and I don't put it past them to take cheap shots.
 
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I thought T-Mart had a plantar fascia issue his senior year?
They kept saying “high ankle sprain”. I know for a fact that he had a fractured fibula. He might have had plantar fasciitis as well but whenever they said he had a high ankle sprain they were fibbing. There’s a whole long story that goes with me posting that at the time. I asked the right guy the right question and his response was “how did you know that?” He had a horrified look on his face. I didn’t “KNOW” it for sure but was making a very educated guess by some things Tim Beck said in a press conference and his symptoms. Turns out Pelini had gone scorched earth trying to find the “leaker” and there never really was one. Yeah at the time I knew one of the team Orthopods but I hadn’t talked to him.
 

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TJ airmailed a lot of passes tonight, I said don’t anointed him that fast. I still like Dylan we need a o line coach, I believe we have the talent they aren’t being coached correctly
 

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TJ airmailed a lot of passes tonight, I said don’t anointed him that fast. I still like Dylan we need a o line coach, I believe we have the talent they aren’t being coached correctly
Yup was waiting for these posts. TJ isn't very good blah blah blah.
 

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Yup was waiting for these posts. TJ isn't very good blah blah blah.
I warned people don’t get to high on tj , he struggled tonight against a very good defense. Before everyone puts Dylan out to pasture let the season play out. Now come spring training I’m all for open competition and let the best one win the job