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GatoLouco

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Nov 13, 2019
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You think CC will say, in the press conference, we are close to breaking through.

Have heard it for a good 30 B1G games now.

🙋‍♂️
 

julescat

Junior
May 29, 2001
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Collins is coach for the next couple years at least. He is not a good coach but leaderless NU is not set up for any change in the near future. I do not see us as ever being top half of Big Ten as long as he is here.
His self-pitying press conferences are not worth watching. I think CC is a decent guy but is that enough?
 

GatoLouco

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Nov 13, 2019
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He incredibly appears, and stress on “appears” to not have lost the locker room.

After last season and what has happened so far this season, that is one thing that is amazing.
 

TheC

Senior
May 29, 2001
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He incredibly appears, and stress on “appears” to not have lost the locker room.

After last season and what has happened so far this season, that is one thing that is amazing.
At some point, do you wonder if that is just another symptom of the problem? If you had guys in there who really hated losing, you'd think they'd start turning.
 

Catreporter

Junior
Sep 4, 2007
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He incredibly appears, and stress on “appears” to not have lost the locker room.

After last season and what has happened so far this season, that is one thing that is amazing.
I was surprised the energy the team came out with today. Credit to CCC. If he can hold onto this team and add the three guys he signed, we could have an interesting 2021-22 season (when we can hopefully attend in person again!)
 

No Chores

Sophomore
Jul 2, 2006
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Kopp and Buie terrible all day, too many turnovers, and missed free throws on the front end of 1 on 1's
 

DaCat

All-Conference
May 29, 2001
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Kopp has been invisible and is not the same player he was last year. What the hell happened? Beran, Buie, and even Gaines (until tonight) are playing worse than last year too. It's not lack of effort, but seems mental. This is a soft team that wilts under pressure.
 

Kelly_32_rivals

All-American
Dec 12, 2004
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Yes, NU opened up a 14-2 lead and CC immediately substituted. Nance was being defended in a mismatch by "head band" -so Nance to the bench

I never have understood why coaches insist on subbing at the first TV timeout. Are guys already tired four minutes into the game?
 

peatymeanis

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Jan 6, 2005
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I never have understood why coaches insist on subbing at the first TV timeout. Are guys already tired four minutes into the game?
To stagger the rotation so that you’re not subbing out your entire starting 5 at the same time
 

DaCat

All-Conference
May 29, 2001
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I never have understood why coaches insist on subbing at the first TV timeout. Are guys already tired four minutes into the game?
To stagger the rotation so that you’re not subbing out your entire starting 5 at the same time
Rule of thumb for Collins: if there is a player who is hot and in rhythm, take him out at the TV timeout.
 

SDakaGordie

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Dec 29, 2016
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At some point, do you wonder if that is just another symptom of the problem? If you had guys in there who really hated losing, you'd think they'd start turning.
So now it’s the players’ fault, but not for their play, but that they just accept losing? Collins just recruits kids like Kopp, Nance, Gaines (who have stayed amidst losing) who are losers? Not everyone is Type A on this team, but this argument is getting ridiculous.
 

GatoLouco

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Nov 13, 2019
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Yes, NU opened up a 14-2 lead and CC immediately substituted. Nance was being defended in a mismatch by "head band" -so Nance to the bench
Head band guy is Rutger’s PG. For those of you who believe the PG issues are the root of all our problem I’d love to see us being led by head band guy.

I’m guessing we’d still be on an 11 game losing streak
 

JoeWildcat

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Jul 31, 2001
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Kopp has been invisible and is not the same player he was last year. What the hell happened? Beran, Buie, and even Gaines (until tonight) are playing worse than last year too. It's not lack of effort, but seems mental. This is a soft team that wilts under pressure.
All year Buie has been little more than an observer on defense. Given how weak his defense is, he is only in there for his offense, and that seems to have totally disappeared. I would give Gaines, Berry and Greer most of Buie's minutes. Buie needs to work his way into more court time by proving he deserves it. Something seems to be wrong with him; he just doesn't seem to be "into" the games this year.
 

CappyNU

Freshman
Mar 2, 2004
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Yes, NU opened up a 14-2 lead and CC immediately substituted. Nance was being defended in a mismatch by "head band" -so Nance to the bench
First off, NU opened up a 14-4 lead, not 14-2. Second, in a departure from every other game this season, Collins did not substitute at the first timeout, which came after 3:04 when Rutgers called one, or at the first media timeout at 4:05. He let the starters go for 7:04, which is easily the longest all season, and substituted when the score was 14-8. Lastly, Nance was not subbed out until he had played the opening 9:40. It's impressive that you managed to get literally everything wrong in your post.
 
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All year Buie has been little more than an observer on defense. Given how weak his defense is, he is only in there for his offense, and that seems to have totally disappeared. I would give Gaines, Berry and Greer most of Buie's minutes. Buie needs to work his way into more court time by proving he deserves it. Something seems to be wrong with him; he just doesn't seem to be "into" the games this year.
All year Buie has been little more than an observer on defense. Given how weak his defense is, he is only in there for his offense, and that seems to have totally disappeared. I would give Gaines, Berry and Greer most of Buie's minutes. Buie needs to work his way into more court time by proving he deserves it. Something seems to be wrong with him; he just doesn't seem to be "into" the games this year.
No defense, turnover prone, loose ball handler, chucks up 3’s from all over the place despite a poor shooting percentage. Better team with Greer, Gaines or Berry in there.
 

stpaulcat

Senior
May 29, 2001
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I don't play basketball. Is playing the game enough, or do you need to win once in a while in order to want to keep doing it? Appears we have a pretty young team that may take a while to gel, esp. in the B1G.
 

CatJones

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Nov 30, 2013
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Here’s the NU basketball starting 5 meritocracy: Greer at point, Audige at 2, Gaines at 3, Nance at 4 and Young at 5. Sub for them when they’re tired. What could happen? A loss?
 

CappyNU

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Mar 2, 2004
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Here’s the NU basketball starting 5 meritocracy: Greer at point, Audige at 2, Gaines at 3, Nance at 4 and Young at 5. Sub for them when they’re tired. What could happen? A loss?
Sorry, but Kopp stays in the starting 5 on merit. We are non-competitive with him on the bench.
 

Secho99

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Dec 12, 2001
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At some point, do you wonder if that is just another symptom of the problem? If you had guys in there who really hated losing, you'd think they'd start turning.

I’ve been on some teams that really hated losing and desperately wanted to turn it around but this pesky “worse at the sport than our opponents” thing kept popping up.
 

CatJones

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Nov 30, 2013
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Gaines plays strong D, doesn’t foul, can handle the ball, doesn’t turn the ball over, and lately has been hitting the open three.
 

xxxbobxxx

Sophomore
Mar 12, 2005
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Sorry, but Kopp stays in the starting 5 on merit. We are non-competitive with him on the bench.

I still think Kopp as the sixth man means we have reached good team status. I think he has flashes, he works hard and would excel against the seconds on the other side. I also think in a close game, he probably is on the floor at the end. I buy into the notion that who ends a game is more important than who starts one.
 

mekCat

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Dec 31, 2005
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Did you not see Cappy's starts? The team is markedly better with Kool on the floor than without. He needs to play as many minutes as possible. Is not his stat line itself, is that opponents put their best defender on Loop when he is on the floor. This opens things up for the other 4. Having Kool not start would be cause for firing CC.
 

NJCat

All-Conference
Mar 7, 2016
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Did you not see Cappy's starts? The team is markedly better with Kool on the floor than without. He needs to play as many minutes as possible. Is not his stat line itself, is that opponents put their best defender on Loop when he is on the floor. This opens things up for the other 4. Having Kool not start would be cause for firing CC.
Kool and the Gang on the floor?

 

xxxbobxxx

Sophomore
Mar 12, 2005
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Did you not see Cappy's starts? The team is markedly better with Kool on the floor than without. He needs to play as many minutes as possible. Is not his stat line itself, is that opponents put their best defender on Loop when he is on the floor. This opens things up for the other 4. Having Kool not start would be cause for firing CC.

I did. And I don’t think this is a good team. May have good players and poorly coached, may have poor players and coaching non factor, may be combination of both.

But in a good team, Kopp comes off the bench as 6 man and plays top five minutes, but is not a starter.

If playing to potential, I probably go Boo, Aud, Beran, Nance and Young. You can sub out any for Kopp at first tv break if someone really is off or to counter opposition sub or wait til second break.
 

Purple Pile Driver

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May 14, 2014
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I’ve been on some teams that really hated losing and desperately wanted to turn it around but this pesky “worse at the sport than our opponents” thing kept popping up.
I have been on some teams that really hated losing and desperately wanted to turn it around and did despite that pesky “ worse at the sport than our opponents” thing. Don’t underestimate the will to win angle. Nearly ever good team has at least one A**hole that drives the competitiveness of the entire team. It’s called overachieving. NU has a bunch of very nice guys.
 

NJCat

All-Conference
Mar 7, 2016
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I have been on some teams that really hated losing and desperately wanted to turn it around and did despite that pesky “ worse at the sport than our opponents” thing. Don’t underestimate the will to win angle. Nearly ever good team has at least one A**hole that drives the competitiveness of the entire team. It’s called overachieving. NU has a bunch of very nice guys.
Spencer was that guy last year. Don't have that guy this year, although Audige comes close.
 

GatoLouco

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Nov 13, 2019
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Spencer was that guy last year. Don't have that guy this year, although Audige comes close.
Kind of hard to be a new guy on a team and fill that role. Yet Spencer, being older and all, did. Audige looks like he could be that type of guy. Had one year in practice, so not completely new. Maybe next year.
 
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Head band guy is Rutger’s PG. For those of you who believe the PG issues are the root of all our problem I’d love to see us being led by head band guy.

I’m guessing we’d still be on an 11 game losing streak
Head band guy (Paul Mulcahy), as I understand it, was all set to commit to NU...but admissions said no.

I believe that was the situation.