UT
Florida
UGA
UK
Mizzou
USC
Vandy
I think it's a tie between UK and Mizzou.
That's the way I see it as of today.
Florida
UGA
UK
Mizzou
USC
Vandy
I think it's a tie between UK and Mizzou.
That's the way I see it as of today.
Rank SEC East as of today
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UT
UF
UGA
Missou
UK
Vandy
SC
But, I do think we have a legit shot at Missou and Georgia. Maybe 20-30% chance. Would really be good to win at least one of those games.
UF
UGA
Missou
UK
Vandy
SC
But, I do think we have a legit shot at Missou and Georgia. Maybe 20-30% chance. Would really be good to win at least one of those games.
I think UGA may be in for a crash. Even before this week they struggled to win. And I'm not sure why everyone puts Vandy below UK. Their defense is superior to UKs.
UT - by far
UF - just because I think everyone else is not good.
Missouri - Playing best of the rest
UGA - If they don't totally collapse
Vandy - Better defense than UK
UK - I think SC is that bad
SC - They are not good.
UT - by far
UF - just because I think everyone else is not good.
Missouri - Playing best of the rest
UGA - If they don't totally collapse
Vandy - Better defense than UK
UK - I think SC is that bad
SC - They are not good.
Alabama
UT
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Florida
Vandy
S Carolina
SEC East Standings
UT
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Florida
Vandy
S Carolina
SEC East Standings
The East is really interesting, not a good division, but interesting.
UT - Leads the way by default, looks/plays beatable
UF - What could have been
UGA - Beat Mizzu on the road, and gets trounced by Miss...will the real UGA please stand up!
Mizzu - I'm gonna wait for another SEC game before deciding, but I think they're a paper tiger. Takes more than a QB and one WR in the SEC
Vandy - Atrocious, anemic...even the defense isn't what it was supposed to be
UK - Defense has made strides for the past 6 quarters, can it continue? Boom, Snell, Johnson, not what we invisioned, but hard not to like.
USC - What a freakin train wreck
Not getting my hopes up, but there is a chance albeit slight, that UK could end the season with 3 SEC losses. Stoops taking over the D and Gran/Johnson seem to be getting comfortable...I've got an ounce of hope left.
UT - Leads the way by default, looks/plays beatable
UF - What could have been
UGA - Beat Mizzu on the road, and gets trounced by Miss...will the real UGA please stand up!
Mizzu - I'm gonna wait for another SEC game before deciding, but I think they're a paper tiger. Takes more than a QB and one WR in the SEC
Vandy - Atrocious, anemic...even the defense isn't what it was supposed to be
UK - Defense has made strides for the past 6 quarters, can it continue? Boom, Snell, Johnson, not what we invisioned, but hard not to like.
USC - What a freakin train wreck
Not getting my hopes up, but there is a chance albeit slight, that UK could end the season with 3 SEC losses. Stoops taking over the D and Gran/Johnson seem to be getting comfortable...I've got an ounce of hope left.
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/kentucky-wildcats/projections
Tennessee
Florida
Missouri
Georgia
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Kentucky is projected with a 32.6% chance of beating Vandy.
Tennessee
Florida
Missouri
Georgia
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Kentucky is projected with a 32.6% chance of beating Vandy.
I'm not understanding the Mizzu love, even the SEC offices ignored their blowout win of the might Delaware St. The LOST at home to UGA, so where is the positive to Mizzu? UGA is a wait and see and could really dig themselves a hole this coming week.
common opponent comparisons don't mean everything, but Vandy did lose to USC at home. Other than Webb who is a heck of a back, Vandy doesn't have much on offense. Just sayin
play Vandy to contain Webb and we "SHOULD" walk away with the win.
Mizzu is a one trick pony at WR. Cheat on him and blitz from the opposite side and that "SHOULD" be a win.
Both of those takes are ASSUMING the defense for UK can play like they did against SC or even improve.
Tennessee
Florida
Georgia
Mizzu, Kentucky, vandy, South Carolina.
Think big difference between top without del rio. And a small drop to Georgia; then other four could all beat each other. Mizzu might be slightly better but it's close out of those four schools. Glad we have 2/3 at home out of the group.
Florida
Georgia
Mizzu, Kentucky, vandy, South Carolina.
Think big difference between top without del rio. And a small drop to Georgia; then other four could all beat each other. Mizzu might be slightly better but it's close out of those four schools. Glad we have 2/3 at home out of the group.
So Georgia wins at Missouri, yet is ranked behind them. KY beats SC at home, Vandy loses to SC at home, yet KY is ranked behind Vandy.
Both of those rankings go against actual results on the field.
Agree. Although I lean more towards SC over Vandy. They beat them on their own field. And they beat an East Carolina team that beat NC State. It's a coin flip on those two. Both have looked horrible.
Ummmm as hard as I am on UK football they are better than South Carolina as proven and they can beat Vandy.
-UT--undefeated. Barely beat App St and Ohio played them pretty tough. Still not close to the same universe as Bama, Texas A&M, or Ole Miss. Would also give Ark and maybe LSU the edge against UT (depending on home field). Believe UT loses two conference games this year.
-UF--mid-pack SEC team....would get beaten by a handful of SECW teams....hapless, hopeless, and helpless blowout of the 'Cats shows we're not close yet. UF still could climb above UT as the season goes along.
-UGA--New HC....seems to be in crawl mode (crawl, walk, run)....has good talent and will likely improve as the season moves on. Barely beat Mizzou away.
-Mizzou--playing better than anyone expected. New HC....lots of energy and emotion on the field. A more difficult task for UK this year than we anticipated.
-Vandy--Until we beat them. Defense keeps them in some games. WKU snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in the final minutes of the 4th quarter allowing the painfully inept Commodore offense to drive the field...ultimately losing in OT going for two with the best O on the field in their corner.....JV mistake by Brohm IMO. The Hilltoppers looked very "UKish" late against Vandy, but I think WKU would beat UK by double digits at this point in the season.
-UK--Encouraged by win over SC....first game I've seen in a long time that didn't have glaring coaching errors. But mindful that the gamecocks are low on talent w/a new HC who is not innovative enough to make up for the talent disparity.
-USC--Never as good as your best game....never as bad as your worst game. The UK game was SC's worst game. Even so, if we don't get the block in the back on the SC punt return for TD (called back).....we may have struggled mightily to pull out a victory. We're better than SC, but not by too much.
-UF--mid-pack SEC team....would get beaten by a handful of SECW teams....hapless, hopeless, and helpless blowout of the 'Cats shows we're not close yet. UF still could climb above UT as the season goes along.
-UGA--New HC....seems to be in crawl mode (crawl, walk, run)....has good talent and will likely improve as the season moves on. Barely beat Mizzou away.
-Mizzou--playing better than anyone expected. New HC....lots of energy and emotion on the field. A more difficult task for UK this year than we anticipated.
-Vandy--Until we beat them. Defense keeps them in some games. WKU snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in the final minutes of the 4th quarter allowing the painfully inept Commodore offense to drive the field...ultimately losing in OT going for two with the best O on the field in their corner.....JV mistake by Brohm IMO. The Hilltoppers looked very "UKish" late against Vandy, but I think WKU would beat UK by double digits at this point in the season.
-UK--Encouraged by win over SC....first game I've seen in a long time that didn't have glaring coaching errors. But mindful that the gamecocks are low on talent w/a new HC who is not innovative enough to make up for the talent disparity.
-USC--Never as good as your best game....never as bad as your worst game. The UK game was SC's worst game. Even so, if we don't get the block in the back on the SC punt return for TD (called back).....we may have struggled mightily to pull out a victory. We're better than SC, but not by too much.
SECE remains a 2 division division.
UT's big comeback win over FL leaves them at a tenuous #1 in the SECE Upper Division over FL and a hard to figure GA.
The SECE Lower Division remains a free for all but remaining schedule seemingly favors the Cats over MO, SC and Vandy for that coveted SECE overall #4 spot.
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UT's big comeback win over FL leaves them at a tenuous #1 in the SECE Upper Division over FL and a hard to figure GA.
The SECE Lower Division remains a free for all but remaining schedule seemingly favors the Cats over MO, SC and Vandy for that coveted SECE overall #4 spot.
Peace
I said "Defense keeps them in some games." Also ESPN ranks Vandy 65th in "points against" at 26.3 PPG. Not great but by comparison we are presently at 109th in D points against at 35.3 PPG.
Stats are history, and when the sample size is 4 games, and teams performances are affected by so many differing values in important variables, it is easy to take too much away from them. It is very difficult in my opinion to draw conclusions at this point, other than those we might easily reach without reliance on the YTD stats, such as, "a UK win in Tuscaloosa is very unlikely", or "U of L will be a tall order." As far as looking at comp scores and stats are concerned, I am not sure I see much in it at all at this point in the season, and certainly where most of our remaining opponents are concerned.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the basis for this information? Are they really trying to get me to believe that Vanderbilt has a 67 percent chance of beating Kentucky despite the fact that it is in Lexington and Kentucky just beat a team that already beat Vanderbilt in Nashville? I know that common opponent crap doesn't really work, but we're talking about a huge spread here. I wouldn't have an issue if they were saying it was something like 45% Kentucky and 55% Vanderbilt, but almost 70/30 is a pretty big stretch. Am I really supposed to believe that Vanderbilt is more likely to beat Tennessee (22.8%) than they are to beat a struggling Auburn (17.1%) team? Am I supposed to believe that Vanderbilt has just as much of a chance to beat Florida as Kentucky does to beat Vanderbilt?
It seems like this website sometimes puts a lot of emphasis on home and away, for instance, South Carolina has a 20 percent chance of beating Tennessee at home, but only a 15 percent chance of beating Florida on the road. So, that further implies that Kentucky is even further behind Vanderbilt, but they are getting somewhere around a 5 percent bump simply because they are playing at home. So, this site is arguing that at a neutral field Vanderbilt would go out and beat Kentucky basically 72 percent of the time. That seems quite crazy to me.
I wonder what the odds were that UK would beat South Carolina. Must have been extremely low if UK only has a 33 percent chance of beating Vanderbilt at home.
I'd rank them as follows:
1) UT
2) UF
3) UGA
4) Mizzou
5) UK
6) Candy
7) South Carolina
I think there is a big dropoff between #2 and #3. It remains to be seen if UGA and Mizzou are lumped in with UK / Candy / USC or if it's one big glob at the bottom of the division with everyone fighting for spots 3-7. My guess is that UGA and Mizzou are a bit better than UK / Vandy / USC, but we'll be able to find out by the end of October.
1) UT
2) UF
3) UGA
4) Mizzou
5) UK
6) Candy
7) South Carolina
I think there is a big dropoff between #2 and #3. It remains to be seen if UGA and Mizzou are lumped in with UK / Candy / USC or if it's one big glob at the bottom of the division with everyone fighting for spots 3-7. My guess is that UGA and Mizzou are a bit better than UK / Vandy / USC, but we'll be able to find out by the end of October.
I think we're better than South Carolina and probably a better team than Vandy.
I am not sure about Missouri and Mississippi State. Typically, both of them are very physical teams and could be trouble for us. Having said, I do think it's possible that we can come together and improve enough to beat all three of them.
I am not one to ever be critical of Vandy or assume a win over them. I may be wrong about it, but I think we're just about dead even with them for our entire series history.
I am not sure about Missouri and Mississippi State. Typically, both of them are very physical teams and could be trouble for us. Having said, I do think it's possible that we can come together and improve enough to beat all three of them.
I am not one to ever be critical of Vandy or assume a win over them. I may be wrong about it, but I think we're just about dead even with them for our entire series history.
Yeah that 33% figure doesn't make any sense. Some common lines this year:
KY -2 SC
Vandy -5 SC
KY +14 at Fla
Vandy +10 Fla
Typically it's 3.5 for home field. For instance at this point in time Vandy would be about +17 if the game were at Fla.
Also, lines fluctuate as the season goes on and they adjust teams. Vandy has obviously been adjusted down since the start of the year. We got adjusted down after Fla. But right at this point in time I think Vegas would have us about even over Vandy on a neutral field, and favored in Commonwealth by about 3.
Regardless, there is nothing in those Vegas spreads to indicate Vandy would be 70% chance over us at home.
UT - But 3rd in West
Florida - close to UT but 5th in West
UGA- not good at all - growing pains for the Fr QB and a bad OL and DL
UK / Mizzou - Tie - and neither is any good at all-but UK has more talent
Vandy - Defense wins the cellar lift
USC - yucky yuckity yuck
Florida - close to UT but 5th in West
UGA- not good at all - growing pains for the Fr QB and a bad OL and DL
UK / Mizzou - Tie - and neither is any good at all-but UK has more talent
Vandy - Defense wins the cellar lift
USC - yucky yuckity yuck
Just can't rate South Carolina below vandy. Usc does have a sec win (against vandy). Where vandy does not have a power five min. (But on this board they beat nick saban jr in brohm)