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1- You quoted me so instead of recognizing real recognize literacy you idiot.

2- Thanks for letting us know you are a real one! I mean wasn't scared before I knew but now that I know you have connections I'm extremely scared! It's truly sad that an adult, as you pointed out, is still worried about street cred! I was kind of thinking the real "real ones" didn't really have to let people know they are "real" so I'll assume you are as fake like before because I'm a grown man and I don't want to be scared.
 

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See reading comprehension is a must. I said I was not about that life now. Been years, have kids, professional job, stuff like that.
 

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Y'all f with cypress hill? I can't listen to em heavy, but I really respect their work and sound. DJ Muggs is unreal.
 

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Freeway still around....



When Jay thought about signing someone, he sent Freeway to rip him apart.
 

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I don't know much about this, but he flows like Devin the Dude, and even sings like him. Respek. Beat funky.

 

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Nobody allowed. Y'all suck.

Idk what's happening in the game, really. If anybody is up to date on hot new hip hop I would like to know if anything worth hearing is popping off in the e-streets. I'm trying to think of recent rap events, and I can't, really.

Currensy and Alchemist released a project. I don't study Currensy or nothing, but this sounds like some of his best work. My favorite part was when Lil Wayne dropped in and got silly af. He tap danced all over this **** like the good ol days

Other than that I ain't heard nothing and I ain't really searched for it. Just hype after hype after hype that never seems to live up to potential.

I've learned some rap stuff recently:

Clipse pretty much ended because Malice thought he had aids...aside from the drug indictments throughout their crew. Malice thought he had aids, told his wife, **** got real, and basically he chose her over the rap game, and cleansed himself of the evils of that world. That's from his mouth via an exclusive interview with Combat Jack. There's a lot there that aint' talked about, imo. The situation is too weird. It's interesting as hell. They moved from Brooklyn to VA, wound up 2 houses away from young Timbaland who was already blown up at the time, and they ran into a young and hungry Pharrel who lived across town. Rest is history.

I learned a big reason rap changed was because Def Jam changed. Idk the exact dates, but basically the game got really gay and pop, and a lot of dudes attribute that to Def Jam changing hands and introducing a lot of white folk with no ears to the streets and no desire to represent the streets. I was getting a lot of this from a Redman interview. So, that's around the golden age of modern rap with Jay, DMX, Meth and Red, etc...then we know what happened after that. Redman said new people came in and shelved a Meth and Red project and started spending most of their marketing on the new pop rap ****.

I learned Eric Sermon is a lot more influential than I knew about. A lot of folks consider him the Dr Dre of the East. I had no clue he was on that sort of level. I got a lot of homework to do there. The most I really know about Eric Sermon came from late songs where he was actually featured, or he was shouting his name at the beginning...badass songs like





That's basically all I knew about Eric, really. Guess I need to keep digging...but it's weird how little respect he seems to get....but you could say that about a lot of folks...

Like DMX. GD Earl a fool, and really, his **** should be built for this new age of wild millennial ignorant idiots, imo. But he aint'. He's a punchline now, and that's f'd up. "I got blood on my hands and there's no remorse; I got blood on my dick cuz I f'd a corpse. Im a nasty motha, if you pass me, look me in the eyes; tell me to my f'n face that you ready to die" - when that **** hit my ears at like 11 years old WOOOOOOO. Man, people weren't saying that ****. Biggie told me about those mf'ers "who kidnap kids, f em in the ***, then throw em over the bridge" - well Earl is that dude kidnapping and f'n kids. He brought that other side that wasn't really poppin on that level of commercial rap. He overshadowed Jay Z during his historical run. It was incredible, and I feel like kids don't even know that. He was too real to deny. Not anybody can lyrically recreate a hostage situation where the robber, X, has the gun to dude's daughter telling him "What's it gonna be? I can either rape her while you watch, or you can give me the goods right now"...the way he told these stories and the visualizations that accompanied them was too ill. I haven't heard anybody do that like DMX. He was some kind of poet, and to get this **** played across commercial airways is something else....

Then Eminem kind of came along and did sort of the same thing in a way....just from a different perspective, a more cerebrally f'd perspective that was not from the streets.

Point is, it takes real talented mf'ers to talk about some sick n twisted **** like those two did and sell records like they're the damn Backstreet Boys, or something....Idk if they did backstreet numbers, or what those numbers even are, but they were the BSB of the rap world, which I assume makes significantly less than the Taylor Swifts and Kings of the pop world, but you get the point...

Some of my DMX favorites from Hell is Hot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4tlf3Ag_lM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjD2yrW1bxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwi_LuXYwSI

DMX was the most spiritual rapper I've ever heard, too, which is really ill. He was probably the first rapper I heard who really rapped both sides. He gave you the gritty uncut raw. He talked to Jesus and Satan in the same song. His struggles where real, and you felt them.

BarrySlice, if you read this, you've read too much. GTFO and come back once you've learned something.

DMX is my favorite rapper. Love the dog
 

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Ok, I'm learnt, I won't say f-bois name, but Nore said he convinced DMX to release samples for the snow bunny, so what songs have the DMX samples? Please and thank you. Instrumentals preferred if you have a link.

catpaw have aids again? Took me 30 minutes to post this. WTH
 

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That beat on 'Feel No Ways' tho. :fire:

I stopped there, saving the rest for my 2 hour drive to BFE IN tomorrow for :golf: Soothing sounds in probable rain to get my mind right. :sunglasses:

#views
 

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The only time I listen to rap is at the gym, I leave it on Young Jeezy or Rick Ross's spotify station.

I got hustlin' on my resume, you ain't never heard a hustla say, he don't wanna hustle no more.

Or

**** wit me, you know I got it.
Bad ***** and I hope she bout it.

Those two songs stay stuck in my head for days.
 

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went to see mobb deep a couple of weeks ago since they were playing a small club in my old pgh neighborhood. the infamous came out 21 years ago. not many albums hold up so well over time and over multiple listens (for instance kool g rap's 4,5,6 starts to sound repetitive after a while, even though i love "fast life"--anyone remember g wearing timbs on a treadmill in the video?)

use of space in the production is outstanding. q-tip consulted/helped--esp on "temperature's rising"--but most of the album was produced by havoc, at 19. it took hip-hop nerds like 20 years to figure out the herbie hancock sample on "shook ones pt 2". prodigy was a truly elite lyricist at the time, but big noyd might have the best verse on the album on "give up the goods"

ps using redman as a source for something being "gay" is quite comical/ironic, as he is a gay man. member of das efx told me

q-tip was obviously the creative force behind tribe, and produced some great **** for other artists--nas' "one love", aforementioned work on the infamous, the largely forgotten crooklyn dodgers posse cut with buckshot, masta ace & special ed, etc--but i always liked phife's verses way better. q tip wore his jazz influence on his sleeve but you didn't hear it in the rhythm of his delivery--very linear/flat IMO

midnight marauders is my favorite tribe album. love the phife verse on "we can get down", probably the most boom bap style q tip production
 
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Boosie Bad *** was in Bowling Green a couple weekends ago. Random, but heard the show was good, got 25 stacks to show up. There was a You Tube video of the guys from Russellville going to his house and asking him to play here. His first words after they came in his house and he dabbed them up a little, was "where is the touching bread at ?" They handed him the money and he sits there counting it, then says "Bowling Green, KY, huh, aight, I will be there."
 
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Was that an acoustic show? I saw a pic of Mobb of rocking some small place with guitars in background and I was very jealous. That would be dope af.

Westside Gunn and Conway.

I haven dug in, and I've been very skeptical because they sound too good to be true. But they're like the only ones on that NYC ****; I just wish Roc Marci wasn't their father, or whatever. I can't listen to that cute gangsta **** for extended periods. We get it, you fly af and your vocabulary is rare. You buy rare japanese cashews and floss with the intestines of the last albino kangaroo. We get it. You shoot mf'ers if they step on your organic wallabes dyed with virgin blood. Understood. It gets annoying after a while.

But, if they can get more mainstream than Roc, they're gonna be dope af.

Lol Boosie is rare.

What happened to Webbie? He was better.
 

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either they're about to do or have already done a show at the blue note in nyc with a live band for the anniversary of the infamous. maybe that's what you saw--i know they've had rehearsals

i can see how it would work pretty well with the bass lines & piano/snare sounds on that album

there was a dj, and they pretty much mailed it in when i saw them. not sure the bus driver ever even turned the engine off outside. smif n wessun opened and steele was in a steelers jersey and seemed into it though. i was pretty addled by the time they came on anyway

may have yelled for "two hennessys--straight up yo" at the bar 500x in the course of the evening

there's a mildly entertaining youtube video of havoc smoking a newport and making a little sample out of an old mexican pop record
 
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No, It was your typical small venue hip hop party, music way too loud, lyrics barely understandable. It was not as bad as some of those you see, my friend Les Mac was the organizer / promoter. It would not shock me if BG turned into a small town venue for fairly popular rap artist to play. The Joker (I hate), Boosie, and Soldier Boy has played here that I know of.

Webbie ?? there is a name from the past. Webbie ,Young Joc, Hurricane Chris,J-Kwon, all made some nice club bangers. I-N-D-E-P-E-N -D-E-N-T, do you know what that mean ? She cook, she cleans, don't smell like onion rings. Now that is some top quality lyrics, no wonder he changed his name to Bad ***.
 

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No. Webbie was better, more lined up than Boosie, and then something happened....then something happened to Boosie, and Boosie is the only one that made it back to the spotlight. Idk the details.
 

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I just read a very unflattering review of the latest script Aubrey read. Seems the people are growing tired of the same type of soulless lyrics.

Would like your expert opinion, of course, before I wrote off Aubrey.

Where is Schoolboy? I'm expecting a new schoolboy and danny brown late 2016 or early 2017. I know Danny's is finished.
 

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This a old school bad *** jam. Copied lyrics from Genius.

Niggas in my face, damn near er' day
Ask a million questions like, Joc where ya' stay?

Tell 'em Collegepark, where they chop cars
Get twenty grand, spend a grand at the bar
Jest bought a zone, J's on my feet
I'm on that Patron, so get like me
'69 Cutlass with the bucket seats
Beat in my trunk, bought it just for the freaks
Catch me in the hood, posted at the store
Pistol in my lap, on the phone counting dough
If a girl choose, let her do her thing
Just like her mama, nice ***, nice brain
Er'body love me, I'm so fly
Niggas throw the deuces er'time I ride by
I know ya wonder why, I'm so cool
Don't ask me just do what you do (OK)

[Hook x2: Yung Joc]
Meet me in the trap, it's goin' down
Meet me in the mall, it's goin' down
Meet me in the club, it's goin' down

Any where ya meet me, guaranteed to go down

[Verse 2: Yung Joc]
Verse number two, do the damn thing
Cubes on my neck, pockets full of Ben Frank's
When I'm in the mall, hoes just pause
I pop a few tags, give me that on the wall
Time to flip the work, make the block bump
Boys from the hood call me black Donald Trump
Dope boy magic, seven days a week
Number one record, long as Nitti on the beat
Oh I think they like me, better yet I know
Lights camera action when I walk through the door
Niggas know my crew, we certified stars
Valet in the front 'bout thirty-five cars
Bitches in the back, black Beamer coupe's
Girls liking girls, time to recruit
If ya' got a problem, say it to my face
We can knuckle up any time any place

[Hook]

[Verse 3: Yung Joc]
Time to set it off, let these nigga know
Have ya ever seen a Chevy with the butterfly doors?
I ride real slow, no need to speed
Gotta make sure ya' see the buckets on my feet
Fans on my trail, but they don't think I know
I keep my hands clean casue I never touch dope
Every time I see 'em, look 'em in they eyes
Ask me how I know, its me, surprise
Put it in the air, rep where ya' stay
Take a step back, blow the kush in they face
Stuntin' is a habit, let 'em see the karats
I'mma make it rain nigga, I ain't scared to share it

[Hook]

[Outro: Yung Joc]
Yung Joc...
Nitty strikes again
This a Nitti beat
Playmaker

So So Def mother****



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1. New Joc City (Intro)
2. It's Goin' Down
3. He Stayed in Trouble (interlude)
4. Do Ya Bad
5. Don't Play Wit It
6. Excuse Me Officer (interlude)
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mashburned

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Lol. WHERE IS YUNG JOC? Another artist disappeared by Diddy.

My favorite sing from that period was Jeezy's "I GOT THAT WHITE GIRL....CHRISTINA AGUH-LERA!!!!"
 

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I learned Mobb Deep refused to do gigs where CNN was booked. Idkwhy, NORE didn't say, I assumed he tried to shoot one of them. He didn't have much to say about them. I would like to hear more about that.

I also never dug into the Havoc v Prodigy stuff. Just heard tight lipped artists talk about it, but the gist was Prodigy was a *****. I would like to know all the details of that.

I think if CNN weren't that gangster, they would have surpassed Mobb Deep as they were better lyricists, imo.
 

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keith murray beat the **** out of prodigy once, evidently

havoc was never that great of an mc to begin with. as prodigy's voice changed his delivery slowed down

maybe rappers are like playwrights and do their best work at a very young age. nas would be the obvious example
 
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Yea, I think that's when you're most creative and free thinking.

Very different how things work today, I think.

Keith Murray is a great interview.

I heard prodigy got F'd in the butt.

To be fair, I also heard lil bow wow was butt raped by his driver when I was like 12. I don't think that was true. Idk. Experts say Lil Bow Wow is a world class stick man. Figures. Guess he just lays low and slays ***** like a smart dude. I think he got that network TV money.

It's unreal when you look back at the 18 year old greats. Just way different times/culture. But just about every one of those dudes had to grow up fast, and had more stories to tell than most 40 year olds. Righteous mf'ers. Now it feels like those guys birthed sons who grew up on video game and cookies and got a for in the door already....and they rap about video games and cookies or fictional swaggy BS.
 
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Not reading through 4 pages of rap talk but I am curious to see what people think about NF. Is he coming up in that genre? I think he's pretty great for working out.
 

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I think you've asked that twice on the paddock and nobody gives a **** about whatever new hip garbage *** abbreviated rapper you're wanting confirmation on like some kind of ***** who asks if he should leave the beach for GD Tampa.

You like DMB. I can tell.
 
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Shewee, bubba. Calm down, thought that's what this thread was about. I don't listen to any music really except country when not at the gym. Podcast FTW. At the gym Rob Bailey & The Hustle Standard station, throw in some rap and 5 Finger Death Punch and I'm ready to kill weights buddy. You should try it, sounds like rap ins influencing you a little too much or you need some stress relief.