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1. The Georgia Bulldogs- they return 8 guys that have started. Best OL in the nation- not just the SEC.

2. The Florida Gators- another veteran crew led by Center Mike Pouncey and G Carl Johnson

3. The Auburn Tigers- return 4 starters and should be solid in Malzahn's offense

4. The Alabama Crimson Tide- they lost 2 good players, but return 8 of 10 on the OL and will be very good

5. The Mississippi State Bulldogs- return 4 starters from the SEC's best rushing attack in 2009- Led by Sherrod, this is State's best OL in 10 years

6. The Arkansas Razorbacks- 3 starters return to a very good OL for Petrino

7. The South Carolina Gamecocks- the Cocks return alot of experience on the OL and should be better than they have been lately

8. The Louisiana State Tigers- losing Ryan Perilloux and declining OL's is why people are calling for Miles' head- They return 3 starters if T-Bob Hebert comes back from suspension and could be a little better in 2010. This unit is they key to their success this Fall.

9- 12- I cant pick from here. Kentucky, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Vandy all lost alot of starters. Mississippi may be the best of the rest, but who knows.
 
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I appreciate the fact you quit using the ghey monikers. Makes it more tolerable to read. And I agree for the most part. I don't really understand what Ryan Perilloux has to do with an OL though.
 
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thelaw said:
I appreciate the fact you quit using the ghey monikers. Makes it more tolerable to read. And I agree for the most part. I don't really understand what Ryan Perilloux has to do with an OL though.
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I simply made a statement as to why I believe Les Miles has struggled recently- losing Perilloux, forcing him to use less talented, inexperienced QB's before they were ready and the decline of LSU's OL players. I just don't see how that was that hard to understand.
 
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No my reading comprehension is fine. I guess this goes back to the last few days where posters have recognized that you fudge the lines of evaluating the position and including seemingly meaningless details, i.e.Ryan Perilloux & Les Miles struggling doesn't really discuss the strengths/weaknesses of LSU's OL.

I do agree with you that LSUseems to be getting sick of Les Miles and the reasons you used alsoseem to support that. But does it have anything to do with the OL and where they'll stack upduring the 2010 season? I don't really think so. But honestly, it doesn't matter to me, and again, I think my reading comprehension is fine.
 
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not hardly. You can debate which is better because they are both outstanding...but if Wisconsin had to block SEC DL's all season, I think they would understand reality a little better. And other sources around the country have Georgia's rated ahead of Wisconsin as well
 
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Just because you return all your starters, doesn't mean you're going to be the best unit.

Georgia was 7th in rushing offense in the SEC last year and 8th in total offense (75th nationally) with some pretty good backs, a great WR, and a decent QB that had been in the system for 5 years. Saying they will be the best OL in the nation is a complete joke and they won't even be being talked about in that breath at the end of the year.

Whenever you watch UGA against a big time SEC team, you don't ever go away thinking that they were more physical like you did with Bama last year. They averaged 1.9 yards per carry vs LSU, 3.7 vs UF, and 3.2 vs OK St. I just don't see them making that big of a jump with the same players returning
 
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running the ball become the only way to measure an OL? They led the SEC in sacks allowed with only 12 in 346 passes . Not sure if anybody informed you, but throwing the ball is pretty important in today's game- and protecting the QB is a big part of that.

They did average 4.7 per rush as a team. Their big 3 rushers averaged 5.2 per rush

They also averaged 243 yards on the ground the last 5 games once Richt started to use them correctly
 
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Yeah, I saw they had a minimal number of sacks allowed, but I would never watch them and subjectively think they are anywhere near the top of the nation as a unit, and I don't think you would either.

That yards per rush for the team was middle of the pack for the SEC, and if they gave up the fewest sacks, to me that means their backs averaged less per carry than over half the SEC since they should've had the least amount of negative yardage. (Bama's top 3 averaged 5.9 per carry, UF's top 4 RB's averaged 7 ypc, Arky's 5.5, MSU's top two RB's 5.6, etc...)

Plus, they were 8th in the SEC in total offense, 75th in the nation, and it wasn't b/c they had terrible skill guys. I just think sometimes certain teams or units get too much hype b/c they have everyone coming back.

At any rate, it's hard to judge the best OL's anyway. It'd be different if everyone ran the same system, b/c MSU's OL in Croom's offense would be perceived an entirely different way
 
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Yeah, I saw they had a minimal number of sacks allowed, but I would never watch them and subjectively think they are anywhere near the top of the nation as a unit, and I don't think you would either.

That yards per rush for the team was middle of the pack for the SEC, and if they gave up the fewest sacks, to me that means their backs averaged less per carry than over half the SEC since they should've had the least amount of negative yardage. (Bama's top 3 averaged 5.9 per carry, UF's top 4 RB's averaged 7 ypc, Arky's 5.5, MSU's top two RB's 5.6, etc...)

Plus, they were 8th in the SEC in total offense, 75th in the nation, and it wasn't b/c they had terrible skill guys. I just think sometimes certain teams or units get too much hype b/c they have everyone coming back.

At any rate, it's hard to judge the best OL's anyway. It'd be different if everyone ran the same system, b/c MSU's OL in Croom's offense would be perceived an entirely different way
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While they may have been 8th yards- in SEC games only - they led the SEC in scoring- the total offense number is a little skewed due to playing the 4th toughest schedule in the nation last year. But when you go conference-only games where everybody is pretty good and no patsies, they were 3rd in the SEC in passing, 8th in rushing...and 1st in scoring- which is the main goal of your offense
 
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If you want to sit here and say UGA was the best offense in the SEC last year just to prove your point, you really are an idiot. Total offense and yards per play are a much better indicator of a team's offensive prowess than scoring, which can be influenced by defensive and special teams td's (UGA did lead the SEC kickoff returns for TD's, and I remember Boykin and Smith making a good many plays from them that weren't 'traditional' offensive plays)

If you want to think UGA's OL is the best in the nation b/c a few preseason mags told you so, then go ahead. They fold when they play good physical defenses (OK St, UF, LSU, and UT completely dominated them) A top OL won't get manhandled by 4 teams
 
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