Ray has gotta go - tonight.

[dorndawg]

Seriously, if you get worked by Arkansas State in your 3rd year, you need to go today.

 

[esplanade91]

It's not the loss (it is), it's how we got beat down like a fat kid on the playground.

 

[KurtRambis4]

But you're just looking at

the games we lost!!!!1. We're a good jump shooting team11!!! Malik!!1

 

[patdog]

.471, .471!!! That PROVES we're a good shooting team! **

Actually, the lack of shooting ability I can somewhat understand and live with. The lack of defensive effort I've seen tonight is unforgivable. Hell, the lack of ANY effort other than Roc and Houston is unforgivable.

 

[dannyripms]

Wow, this is a very bad loss. At the start of the season I was optimistic that we would get to nit. Man we won't win a conference game playing like this. I have to wander if the season keeps going like this if coach will still be around

 

[esplanade91]

Kill it with fire.

 

[Kicking Bird]

After that loss I feel lower than a snake's belly in a wagon track. The bench scores 40 of the 55 points. How can we keep this guy.

 

[Shmuley]

If you can't see the improvement, you're blind. [/remember the maine].

 

[Dawg1976]

He should, but you know we will have him the rest of the season. Focus on the bowl game. Maybe baseball season will start early due to lack of interest in the basketball team.

 

[Philly Dawg]

Wasn't able to watch tonight, but this has been my concern under Ray. We have been so bad defensively, with a serious lack of fundamentals.

 

[MSUDawg25]

Actually, the lack of shooting ability I can somewhat understand and live with. The lack of defensive effort I've seen tonight is unforgivable. Hell, the lack of ANY effort other than Roc and Houston is unforgivable.

I don't care if it is a lack of effort, talent, coaching, or whatever. I'm tired of the lack of being any good. I have not watched more than five minutes of one of our games all year. That is terrible. I love MSU and I love basketball, but in the end sports are supposed to be entertainment. Watching us is not entertaining. It is painful. I would rather just turn it off and do something else.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Sad part is we could have made the "right" hire in payne.
Ex player told me recently that we were hrs away from doing so but got some ncaa heat from some stans backdoor garbage and went wirh someone with no ties. Wish we'd had made that move anyways.

 

[esplanade91]

Still can.

 

[Shamoan]

arkansas state has beaten central arkansas, BELHAVEN, and of course.....us. they are currently ranked 333 in RPI.


there can only be one outcome imo...well, turns out the questionable hire was a questionable hire. not even remotely close to looking like a team anywhere close to turning any kind of corner.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Well there's this...

"Let's be honest, MSU is not a real good shooting team." -- Arkansas State coach John Brady.

 

[Old Fart Dawg]

^^ this

 

[patdog]

If Kenny Payne was the right move, why is he still the #3 assistant at Kentucky? He's the bagman, not a coach.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Yea, gonna call BS ...

Sad part is we could have made the "right" hire in payne.
Ex player told me recently that we were hrs away from doing so but got some ncaa heat from some stans backdoor garbage and went wirh someone with no ties. Wish we'd had made that move anyways.

Total BS. If Payne had wanted to be the HC at Mississippi State, he WOULD be at State right now. Ray was next on the list after Payne turned us down. We had discussions with Bryce Drew, Steve Prohm, Rob Jeter, Payne and Ray. We were flat turned down by Drew, Prohm and Payne before Ray took the job. The only unknown in whether Jeter ever had a real offer from State.

Please explain what 'ties' Payne had to State. He played HS BB at Laurel, went to Louisville. What 'ties' did he have to State.

 

[dorndawg]

In that case, he's the best 17ing bagman in history.

 

[patdog]

He actually played HS basketball at Northeast Jones (same school as Russell Walters).

 

[rem101]

Everyone knows it takes 7 years to turn the program around. Arkansas State has more talent than us.

I've heard that somewhere, anyway.

 

[ArcherSPS]

Where are you wandering to**