really good nafoom/DM post about us

FlabLoser

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I always thought it great when our rival hates us. Does it speak better for us when we're envied by our rival?

I think their hate would benefit us more. If they come to actually envy us, they might be motivated to change and actually improve themselves. But I digress. Here's the post. Stay tuned for this week's 2nd directionally-challenged comment.

http://www.thedmonline.com/blog/ole-miss-fans-need-attitude-adjustment

"We might not win em all, but we’ve never lost a party.”

Following the loss to Jacksonville State I was presented with
that statement as a friend helped himself to another drink. To be honest
I wanted a drink or two myself, primarily to forget the sting of a loss
to a non-Division I team. But that exclamation really stuck with me
because it echoed an attitude that has been present in the Ole Miss
fanbase since possibly the end of the John Vaught era.
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As Ole Miss fans we all like to proclaim ourselves the classiest,
the best dressed and the fanciest tailgaters. Sure, all of those things
are true but not a single one of them contributes towards what I
believe to be the most important thing in all of sports: supporting the
team.
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Ole Miss fans are the most fair-weather group I’ve ever seen, and
its pathetic. I sat in a game Saturday where half of the student
section wandered out of the stadium at half-time because the score
seemed to indicate we couldn’t lose and partying was more important. I
watched the remaining students sit down and proceed to text, talk, and
make plans for what to do after the game for the duration of the third
quarter.
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Even as things started to spiral out of control the stadium was
half-hearted and the JSU band was louder than tens of thousands of Ole
Miss fans. Pathetic.
</p>

However, once things started looking really bad people began to
stand up and cheer. Not so surprisingly, the team started playing with a
little more spunk in their step. Sure, they still failed to pull up a
win and made some (or a lot of) mistakes along the way, but motivation
and support can do a lot for the energy and focus of a team. The 2009
LSU game is a prime example of how a fired up crowd can keep a team in a
game until the final second(s).
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I promise you that the players don’t walk out on the field, or
court, and pump their arms in the air because they feel like it. They do
it because they need the support, and because noise is horribly
distracting.
</p>

Why do you think playing LSU in Death Valley, or paying a visit
to The Swamp in Gainesville is intimidating? It’s more than the boys
wearing the jerseys and tossing a football. The fan bases eat, sleep and
breath their respective team and they let that team know it with each
snap of the ball. They don’t give in, they don’t go quiet and they don’t
go back to the Grove to drink because their team is too far ahead to be
beaten or too far behind to catch up.
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Saturday night<span style="font-weight: bold;"> our enemies to the east</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;">[Flab: technically we are East of Oxford, but South would clearly be a lot more descriptive]</span> trounced Memphis by 49
points. Davis Wade Stadium looked as if it had been painted white, and
the sound of ringing cowbells and cheering filled every possible second.
It’s true that Memphis isn’t a very good team this year, but no one
thought Jacksonville State would be a challenge either. And don’t think
for a second the Bulldogs have more talent on their team that we do.
Right now they are all bark and no bite.
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You can say what you will about that “other” university (I know
that my day isn’t complete without a State joke), but they have their
priorities in the right place.
</p>

It’s not about who has the fanciest tent in the Grove, it’s not
about who is wearing what and it’s not even about drinking. It’s about
football, supporting the team, and having spirit.
</p>

We have bunch of people drinking themselves into a stupor and leaving at halftime.</p>

Forgive me Rebels, but I’d rather have the State fans - minus the cowbells.</p>
 

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Todd4State

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that they may have some issues with their fans, it seems like some of their fans are blaming themselves (the fans) for the loss, and that just isn't so.

I've given it a lot of thought about how someone could lose to Jacksonville State after having a 21 point halftime lead or whatever it was. To me, that's what made that loss unusual and remarkable. Usually when a team like JSU pulls off an upset like that, it's because they were able to hang around with the D-I team and eventually they get confident and perhaps the other team panics a little bit and then the I-AA team makes a key play, like Appalachain State blocking that FG attempt to win the game.

But this was not that. This was a collapse. This was a choke.

What I think it comes down to are three things:

1. Lack of team leadership.


2. Poor conditioning.


3. Lack of talent.

Those three things have nothing to do with the fans. Think about it- they're bitching their fans out for leaving at the half when their team is up by 21 and having their way with them. I saw State fans leaving when we were way up to, but our team did not have the same problems. Ole Miss is a team without a QB as far as I'm concerned, they don't have a big time running back like a Dixon that can carry them at times, and on defense, I don't know who they have that's a leader. As far as the conditioning- they were getting run over by a I-AA team in the fourth quarter- and it was their starters. That should not happen- even to Vanderbilt. And as far as talent, who are their best players? Masoli? Powe? It's going to be a long year for them.
 

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And by a lot, I mean begins and ends with 5 out of 6 letters in her name...<div>
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AssEndDawg

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but all of our coaches talk about how much having the fans into the game and following the program makes a difference. These guys have been playing football their whole lives wanting to get on that big stage and I firmly believe that MSU is currently a better place to enjoy that stage. I don't think the fans are why Ole Miss lost but I think they could have been enough of a factor to help Ole Miss win had they been in the stands and loud the whole game.
 

Todd4State

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AssEndDawg said:
but all of our coaches talk about how much having the fans into the game and following the program makes a difference. These guys have been playing football their whole lives wanting to get on that big stage and I firmly believe that MSU is currently a better place to enjoy that stage. I don't think the fans are why Ole Miss lost but I think they could have been enough of a factor to help Ole Miss win had they been in the stands and loud the whole game.


but I think where the fans are going to make the most difference is when the two teams are about equal- like when we play Auburn in a couple of days.

No one in the SEC should really NEED their fans to help them pull through a I-AA team. A SEC teams depth and talent alone should wear out a I-AA team and eventually break their will by the time their fans decide to go party.

I just can't blame their fans for leaving early when they were up by 17 going into the fourth quarter in a game that they were dominating. I think that would happen at most schools.

I've heard a couple of Ole Miss fans say the same thing that the DM person said. I do think that they may have some issues with their fans, and the circimstances have brought out a lot of soul searching by all of their fans.

While I have not been to a game in Oxford since 1998 when we won the SEC West, I would not be surprised at all if MSU does indeed have a better gameday product. Our athletic administration has worked very hard to make sure that we have a good product that people want to go to, and they have done a great job with it. From the coach, to the uniforms, to the Junction, and to just plain listening to fans, they've done a great job. And it should get better and better every year with the impending expansion projects.
 

tommyboy1520

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They should be able to drag a 1-AA team up and down the field with an empty stadium. If you need your fans to help you pull out a win against a J'ville State, you've got issues.