this guy will get Tuesday?
http://uabsports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/polk_ron00.html
Or do the volunteer coaches not travel?
http://uabsports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/polk_ron00.html
Or do the volunteer coaches not travel?
Reckon what sort of reception.......
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this guy will get Tuesday?
http://uabsports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/polk_ron00.html
Or do the volunteer coaches not travel?
http://uabsports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/polk_ron00.html
Or do the volunteer coaches not travel?
this guy will get Tuesday?
http://uabsports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/polk_ron00.html
Or do the volunteer coaches not travel?
http://uabsports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/polk_ron00.html
Or do the volunteer coaches not travel?
if you are in some way insinuating that Ron Polk should or would receive anything less than a standing ovation from the MSU crowd (the kind that delays things) then the people on this board are right that we have the worst fans in the country.
I realize Polk was a good message board target in his last year but this guy put MSU on the map nationally... I'm glad he moved on but even still I think if somebody attempted to boo him near me at the game I would have to be escorted out of the stadium.
I realize Polk was a good message board target in his last year but this guy put MSU on the map nationally... I'm glad he moved on but even still I think if somebody attempted to boo him near me at the game I would have to be escorted out of the stadium.
put MSU baseball second to college baseball for over 15 years. He thus cheated our fans. I would say we have some pretty good fans to have put up with that crap for as long as we did.
so I expect him to be back. Luckily he won't be able to contribute as much to the scouting report as last season.</p>
if anyone was to boo Coach Polk for his past, then they never appreciated bulldog baseball or enjoyed the times. I have watched the man coach our teams and he gave his best that he could give. Sadly, he made a strategic decision that has caused him to not want to be part of our university. He made the choice to buck the current athletic administration. When you are the head of any department and have a position to replace, it is always the head man's responsibility to hire that replacement; not the former coach.Coach Polk was stubborn and thought it was his right. That was wrong. It was and is our A.D.s job to do the hiring. And our A.D. made a very good choice... I might add.
Again, if you want to stir the pot with a boo or negative comment regarding coach polk, I hope you keep it to yourself. We should always thank coach Polk for his years at MSU as our coach. I wish him well.
Again, if you want to stir the pot with a boo or negative comment regarding coach polk, I hope you keep it to yourself. We should always thank coach Polk for his years at MSU as our coach. I wish him well.
The point of this thread isn't to debate the state of the program when Polk left... the point is that he has done more for Mississippi State University athletics than ANY other person in the history of the school... end of debate.
If somebody thinks that he deserves to be booed then they better hope they don't sit in my section. He is no longer a coach here...move on. Go boo Stans with C34
If somebody thinks that he deserves to be booed then they better hope they don't sit in my section. He is no longer a coach here...move on. Go boo Stans with C34
for MSU baseball it wasn't for polk. The man single-handedly built dudy noble field. He took us to 7 CWS and three of those came after 1991 highpointdawg as you said he didn't do anything for us after '91. Sure his priorities did shift a little toward the end of his career, but he is still the man that built MSU baseball and put us on the map.
Polk thought he was bigger than MSU and LT let him do what he did without saying a thing. I can kind of understand why Polk was so pissed at Byrne, because LT had let Ron be the baseball AD with no consequences. Ron didn't know how to respond when a MSU AD actually DID his job and had oversight on the program.
Ron should never, ever been allowed to run the program the way he did the 2nd time around for as long as he did without accountability. What Cohen inherited was Ron's fault, but LT watched it happen and did nothing.
All that being said, whether you agree with how he did it, the results, or how it ended, Ron Polk gave a lot to MSU over his tenure and he should be acknowledged at least for his years of service here.
Ron should never, ever been allowed to run the program the way he did the 2nd time around for as long as he did without accountability. What Cohen inherited was Ron's fault, but LT watched it happen and did nothing.
All that being said, whether you agree with how he did it, the results, or how it ended, Ron Polk gave a lot to MSU over his tenure and he should be acknowledged at least for his years of service here.
I know he tried to get Cohen not to take it but he did help mold him into the player and coach Cohen is today. At least that is what Cohen said himself.
wouldn't be one to boo, but sometimes people forget that MSU baseball is bigger than Ron Polk. He didn't seem to understand that.
..to destroy it further. At best, he is a neutral entity. I wouldn't boo him, but I wouldn't cheer him.
What was easier or better....watching him build our program or almost single handedly destroy it?
"Ron Polk should or would receive anything less than a standing ovation
from the MSU crowd (the kind that delays things) then the people on
this board are right that we have the worst fans in the country"
Simply, WTF are smoking or drinking? A smattering of respectable clapping would be befitting of his legacy. Remember, he destroyed everything he built all by himself. Not a single person MADE him quit coaching, quit recruiting, publicly blast our AD and openly ask a former player to NOT take the job. What does that really say about Polk as a person? That he would put himself and a former player between himself and that players dream job?
"Ron Polk should or would receive anything less than a standing ovation
from the MSU crowd (the kind that delays things) then the people on
this board are right that we have the worst fans in the country"
Simply, WTF are smoking or drinking? A smattering of respectable clapping would be befitting of his legacy. Remember, he destroyed everything he built all by himself. Not a single person MADE him quit coaching, quit recruiting, publicly blast our AD and openly ask a former player to NOT take the job. What does that really say about Polk as a person? That he would put himself and a former player between himself and that players dream job?
that he would do everything in his power to sabotage our athletic program. I will never forgive him for the way he left our program, not just leaving it in shambles but also by stabbing the entire university, and especially Greg Byrne, in the back.
And for all the credit he gets (much of it deserved)for building our program, and setting the foundation for building SEC baseball as a whole, a fair amount of credit has to go to our fans too. Ron Polk wouldn't be half the legend he became if he'd taken the Tennessee job in 1976. He'd have won games, but he wouldn't have inspired the rest of the conference to start caring about college baseball.
And for all the credit he gets (much of it deserved)for building our program, and setting the foundation for building SEC baseball as a whole, a fair amount of credit has to go to our fans too. Ron Polk wouldn't be half the legend he became if he'd taken the Tennessee job in 1976. He'd have won games, but he wouldn't have inspired the rest of the conference to start caring about college baseball.
Of course 5 years after they run Stans off, they'll want to build a statue of him like they do w/ Sherrill now.
....but as far as I can tell, he has remained indignant.
We are in the bottom 3rd of the SEC as far as facilities are concerned. We were bad last year and we have been picked to finish last this year. I trust Cohen and I think he will do big things at MSU, but he will be dealing with Polk's mess for years to come. What Mullen inherited is nothing compared to what Polk left Cohen. Polk also sat idly by making excuses while our arch rival built a baseball program that has surpassed ours in terms of success, facilities, and fan support. Instead, he was typing angry letters to the NCAA and making excuses. Meanwhile, 90 miles up the road, our rival is consistently playing in Supers.
He destroyed everything he built.
We are in the bottom 3rd of the SEC as far as facilities are concerned. We were bad last year and we have been picked to finish last this year. I trust Cohen and I think he will do big things at MSU, but he will be dealing with Polk's mess for years to come. What Mullen inherited is nothing compared to what Polk left Cohen. Polk also sat idly by making excuses while our arch rival built a baseball program that has surpassed ours in terms of success, facilities, and fan support. Instead, he was typing angry letters to the NCAA and making excuses. Meanwhile, 90 miles up the road, our rival is consistently playing in Supers.
He destroyed everything he built.
He's a sad trainwreck. He himself tainted his reputation, not the fans nor the administration. I wouldn't boo him. Neither would I give any applause, not even a golf clap. He's a curious, demented artifact from the past. I don't have ill-will toward him, only a semblance of pity.
You've got to be kidding me.
Granted, Polk left the baseball program in shambles, but by next year Cohen will have MSU baseball back where it should be.
Meanwhile, it will take Mullen years to correct Sherrill's & Croom's destruction.
I am no Polk fan, & even have a username that mocks Polk. But you can make alot of factual statements that deride Polk withoutpretending MSU baseball isin the same bottomless crap pit MSU football is in.
...Croom left us position wise, including quarterback. In football, in terms of Croom players, we were good at linebacker, horrible in the secondary (until Broomfield and Banks took over), and below average on the DL, with the exception of Mullen recruits like McPhee, Cox, and Boyd. Offensively, we were horrible at qb, solid on the line, and all of our receiver production was due to Mullen recruits.
In baseball, outside of Powers, Polk left us very little. Mullen made a decent offensive team out of these guys, but the pitching staff was so bad that it overrode everything. In addition, we are in the bottom 3rd of the league in facilities while football saw a vast improvement under Croom. Even Mullen admits that Croom left him something to work with.
They were both horrible situations, but the difference is that there is absolutely no excuse for a once proud baseball program to be in a comparable position of a Croom-led football team.
In baseball, outside of Powers, Polk left us very little. Mullen made a decent offensive team out of these guys, but the pitching staff was so bad that it overrode everything. In addition, we are in the bottom 3rd of the league in facilities while football saw a vast improvement under Croom. Even Mullen admits that Croom left him something to work with.
They were both horrible situations, but the difference is that there is absolutely no excuse for a once proud baseball program to be in a comparable position of a Croom-led football team.
he showed he didn't have winning at the top of his priority list too.. didn't care if we got the best coach available.. said he didn't care if Joe Torre would take it..
you pull that **** then say you are going to damage us then you can't even apologize?
17 you and the horse you road in on *****....******.....
yep I said it
you pull that **** then say you are going to damage us then you can't even apologize?
17 you and the horse you road in on *****....******.....
yep I said it
..Cohen will have MSU baseball back by next year.
Meanwhile, it will probablybe Tyler Russell's senior year before MSU is again a serious SEC football program.
Polk acted an *** on many different levels & wrecked the baseball program in the process. But Polk's meltdown at least had a recent CWS appearance attached to it.
Meanwhile, Mullen was left a mess that started at the end of Sherrill's tenure & was never corrected during Croom's tenure. That's a destructive force a decade in the making.
Turning MSU baseball around is a cakewalk compared to what it will take to turn MSU football around.
Meanwhile, it will probablybe Tyler Russell's senior year before MSU is again a serious SEC football program.
Polk acted an *** on many different levels & wrecked the baseball program in the process. But Polk's meltdown at least had a recent CWS appearance attached to it.
Meanwhile, Mullen was left a mess that started at the end of Sherrill's tenure & was never corrected during Croom's tenure. That's a destructive force a decade in the making.
Turning MSU baseball around is a cakewalk compared to what it will take to turn MSU football around.
But it is much easier to turn around MSU baseball due to your tradition, facilities, etc than it is football. Which to me makes it even more inexcusable how far Polk let let the talent level of your team slip.RonnyAtmosphere said:
I sure enjoyed two of those nothings when I was a student...second one was under McMahon but it was Polk's players and staff. Third one you make reference to was pretty nice and included the greatest Super Regional in the history of Super Regionals. You're either ignorant or insane if you think Ron Polk deserves anything but a standing O.patdog said:
he will get a standing ovation because the people that attend the midweek games are the same people that were many of his biggest supporters.
What would I do? I would applaud. Maybe I would stand. I know that I wouldn't boo him. MSU baseball is bigger than Ron Polk- Rambis hit the nail on the head with his comment about Polk not realizing that.
But the fact of the matter is this- Ron Polk took MSU baseball- which was not bad before him, whether he realizes it or not- to the next level. All of our CWS appearances except for two were during his tenure, and one of the others was under Pat McMahon primarily with players that played and were developed under him. He upgraded the facilities and set the bar for everyone else in the SEC. He averaged a CWS appearance once every five years or so, I believe. That's pretty remarkable, and the only coach that I could say achieved more than Polk was Skip Bertman. And we actually held our own pretty well with Skip.
Polk is without a doubt one of the top 10 coaches in college baseball history. Booing Polk would be like FSU booing Bobby Bowden. Yes, both stayed too long, but had we not hired Polk, what would MSU baseball be? Him getting us to Omaha is why I belive that we can win a NC with the right coach, and hopefully we have found that coach in John Cohen.
I would say to anyone that feels the urge to boo Polk to save face and just don't go to the game. There's a time and place to boo Polk- like for not making a pitching change. There's also a time to not boo him- and him coming back as a visitor while he is being recognized over the PA system is not that time.
Yes, I have criticized Polk many times, and rightfully so. But, I also respect him for what he has done for MSU baseball, and he has done WAY more good than bad. I was highly upset when we brought Polk back because I knew that there was no way that he could top what he had done previously at MSU unless he won a NC, and I didn't think he could do that. I would boo LT for bringing Polk back before I boo Polk. LT should have had the balls to tell Ron not to come back, but he didn't. It was also a poor move because it was status quo when we needed a guy to excite the fan base, and we dropped the ball. It's one of the reasons why LT is not around anymore.
What would I do? I would applaud. Maybe I would stand. I know that I wouldn't boo him. MSU baseball is bigger than Ron Polk- Rambis hit the nail on the head with his comment about Polk not realizing that.
But the fact of the matter is this- Ron Polk took MSU baseball- which was not bad before him, whether he realizes it or not- to the next level. All of our CWS appearances except for two were during his tenure, and one of the others was under Pat McMahon primarily with players that played and were developed under him. He upgraded the facilities and set the bar for everyone else in the SEC. He averaged a CWS appearance once every five years or so, I believe. That's pretty remarkable, and the only coach that I could say achieved more than Polk was Skip Bertman. And we actually held our own pretty well with Skip.
Polk is without a doubt one of the top 10 coaches in college baseball history. Booing Polk would be like FSU booing Bobby Bowden. Yes, both stayed too long, but had we not hired Polk, what would MSU baseball be? Him getting us to Omaha is why I belive that we can win a NC with the right coach, and hopefully we have found that coach in John Cohen.
I would say to anyone that feels the urge to boo Polk to save face and just don't go to the game. There's a time and place to boo Polk- like for not making a pitching change. There's also a time to not boo him- and him coming back as a visitor while he is being recognized over the PA system is not that time.
Yes, I have criticized Polk many times, and rightfully so. But, I also respect him for what he has done for MSU baseball, and he has done WAY more good than bad. I was highly upset when we brought Polk back because I knew that there was no way that he could top what he had done previously at MSU unless he won a NC, and I didn't think he could do that. I would boo LT for bringing Polk back before I boo Polk. LT should have had the balls to tell Ron not to come back, but he didn't. It was also a poor move because it was status quo when we needed a guy to excite the fan base, and we dropped the ball. It's one of the reasons why LT is not around anymore.
Polk but msu baseball on the map, just like jackie did for football and I do thank them for that and overall, polk deserves a standing o for his overall career here. But they both did not resemble the saying "When you leave a place, make it better that when you found it for the next person"
I agree...I got as mad as anyone about his poor decision making at the time, but he is still an icon at MSU and always will be...
Turning MSU baseball around is a cakewalk compared to what it will take to turn MSU football around.
Yeah but for baseball fans to feel like the program is back we'd have to host regionals consistently with a trip to omaha every few years. Football just has to win 7 games and go to a bowl, occasionally challenging for the west when the stars align. We were about 4 inches and a couple calls going our way from meeting those expectations for the second time in three years
Yeah but for baseball fans to feel like the program is back we'd have to host regionals consistently with a trip to omaha every few years. Football just has to win 7 games and go to a bowl, occasionally challenging for the west when the stars align. We were about 4 inches and a couple calls going our way from meeting those expectations for the second time in three years
1 - He's an old guy legend in college baseball
2 - He was the pride of MSU for many years, just not his last few.
3 - He has not done anything to hurt MSU for at least a year.
4 - Look at what a favor he did to help us get JC
5 - Things are looking up now. Forget about the past since you can't do squat about it and move on.
6 - He migt still leave th eschool a hundred grand if we treat him good
7 - There is no #7
8 - We may need something from him someday - Maybe a kidney or something.
9 - He could get pissed off and take his name off the field again
10 We might piss off UAB and see then beat the crap out of us in anger at how we treated an old geezer.
2 - He was the pride of MSU for many years, just not his last few.
3 - He has not done anything to hurt MSU for at least a year.
4 - Look at what a favor he did to help us get JC
5 - Things are looking up now. Forget about the past since you can't do squat about it and move on.
6 - He migt still leave th eschool a hundred grand if we treat him good
7 - There is no #7
8 - We may need something from him someday - Maybe a kidney or something.
9 - He could get pissed off and take his name off the field again
10 We might piss off UAB and see then beat the crap out of us in anger at how we treated an old geezer.
And read that he "destroyed the baseball program at MSU".
You'll be happy to know that I was at teh park this past weekend and the field is still there. Guys were playing baseball there and half of them had MSU uniforms on.
The program survived. He didn't destroy anything.
Someone said MSU BAseball was bigger than Ron POlk. If that is true and it is, how in the hell did he destroy it? or even stand a chance of doing that?
Sounds to me like excessive elaboration
You'll be happy to know that I was at teh park this past weekend and the field is still there. Guys were playing baseball there and half of them had MSU uniforms on.
The program survived. He didn't destroy anything.
Someone said MSU BAseball was bigger than Ron POlk. If that is true and it is, how in the hell did he destroy it? or even stand a chance of doing that?
Sounds to me like excessive elaboration
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