Have you seen him try to get off bottom against some of the bigger, stronger, heavies the last couple years? He needs more horsepower and an extra 30 pounds would absolutely help.
There isn’t a doubt in my mind Doyle would’ve had Ben at 250+and looking like the Incredible Hulk long before this season started. BK absolutely would’ve benefitted tremendously if he were still here to help with these situations.
Doesn’t the wrestling team have a s&c coach who’s paid to do this kinda stuff?
Yes, Alex Harmer…. He takes a drastically different approach from Doyle. Coach Doyle was a genius in this specific department.
I realize one was mainly a football guy and another one mainly a wrestling guy, but I'd be interested to hear the difference in their approaches to strength and conditioning.
To be fair he kinda has to. It would be very bad for the wrestling program if guys were adding 20-40 lbs over the course of their college career like they often do in football.
If you're going to tout these other guys as some exceptional athletes in comparison to Ben Kueter, I'd say it speaks volumes. But I have common sense, others apparently are still searching.........
All I know is he took Dan Erekson from a 197 to a solid 250 pound heavyweight in one off season and he did much better as a heavyweight. I think he was a similar height to Ben. There are a few videos out there of some guys going through SC workouts with an assistant SC coach. Looks like lighter weight and quick explosive movement, box jumps, other agility work. Not bad to make you more quick and athletic, but not going to put on muscle weight and significant increase in power.
There are outliers, and Ben is most certainly one of them. Doyle was a mad scientist in this this department. Look what he did for Ereksen, as mentioned above, and Chad Beatty in one off-season. BK would’ve been a dream project for Coach Doyle.
Absolutely, I think Doyle was incredibly talented as a strength and conditioning coach and Iowa football over the last 25 years looks different without him.
He was considered one of the best, that’s why we were paying him 1 million a year many years ago to keep him. When the scandal hit, him, Kirk or Brian had to take the fall, so he had the short straw. Looking back, that would have been a perfect excuse to get rid of Brian, but Kirk still thought he was going to hand off the head coach job to him.
I agree he was one of the best. But there were guys before and after him with similar accolades. There have been players in the program since that have broke S&C records under the tutelage of his disciple. I love coach Doyle, but he didn't invent S&C
Our Heavyweights should strength train with the football guys. The rest can train like we have been.
Gonna have to be a flip or 28 class for a quality upper middleweight.
May........ being the key word there.
Bastida didn't look bigger than Ben just way faster and more athletic. Football is an athlete's game at the D1 level. We have seen very good college heavyweights attempt to play football and some have made it. I think he could eventually get some playing time but he is much more likely to be a star in wrestling. Iowa high school football is not too great. If he were the best linebacker coming out of the state of Texas you might have something. He can be a national champion in wrestling.
Josey Jewell and Jack Campbell would like a word.
I understand that Iowa produces some stud football players, but it isn't as common as some other football fanatic states. I would feel a bit better about Ben's path to starting if he were on the other side of the ball. Those linebackers and the defense in general are the heart and soul of Hawkeye football. I hope he has great success if he chooses to keep playing football, but imo his future is still so bright in wrestling. Getting fully healthy and focusing on just two sports (freestyle and Folkstyle) would be my hope.
Also the three linebackers, Buffington, Ries, and Wiesskopf, who are assumed next up at the position are all from Iowa as well.
Good idea, just add more strength endurance exercises to the wrestler program.
Spoken like the average 12 year old
I do remember an interview with Doyle where he said a lot of what his programs do focus on being able to exert maximum force into the ground. Genetics play a big role in how easily someone puts on muscle and weight in general. Ben has broad shoulders, but overall is kind of lanky. Not that you can get surprisingly strong with at build if you work at it. Ryder Block is apparently much stronger than he looks. At heavyweight the bulk help to not get pushed around the mat because there can be such a disparity in weight between opponents compared to other weight classes.
Maybe a switch to tight end would be good if he has decent hands. Dallas Clark was a walk on linebacker buried on the depth chart, switched to tight end and became a star in the NFL.
Are you implying that every guy on team had same plan? I don’t believe that. I would assume that these S&C coaches are all smart enough to adjust workouts for each athlete. It wouldn’t be difficult.
Again, there is no way professional S&C coaches don’t have a different plan for Kueter and his needs. That cannot possibly be true. It’s so absurd, I don’t even consider to believe it.
