Anyone else excited that now we're recruiting every state. It's exciting to be a national brand... Glad we got rid of that just recruit Mississippi cause no one wants to come to poor Starkville... I think wefinally got elite recruiters 
Recruiting Nationwide
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I just hope we’re not deemphasizing MS and the southeast. I may be wrong, but it seems like Mullen would use 4-5 guys in MS, where we should use 1-2, with the rest in other areas. Hopefully MS is still as important, but we’re using our country coaches more effectively
We are going to have to ball out looking like Oregon in the Chip Kelly days if we want to recruit nationally (successfully) so in that vein, should not try to do that until 2020 at best. Focus on Mississippi and surrounding states for 2019
I will be very surprised if we can pull the Shrader kid out of North Carolina. Mullen learned this lesson the hard way but hey maybe Moorhead is a better recruiter than Danny Glover
I will be very surprised if we can pull the Shrader kid out of North Carolina. Mullen learned this lesson the hard way but hey maybe Moorhead is a better recruiter than Danny Glover
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saw a tweet from Charles Huff yesterday, and he was in California recruiting. Tweeted a pic of an in-and-out burger, and said something to the effect of while in Cali recruiting, must eat one of these (paraphrasing).
Same here. I don't want to sacrifice relationships with High Schools in MS and AL, which will usually be our wheelhouse. Someday when this coaching staff is gone (hopefully not for many years) we will still need those relationships.
Mullen dropped several MS kids well into their recruitment over the last couple of years. Seems like that would be more likely to burn bridges than anything.
I wouldn't worry about that. We have other guys on the staff for the Mid South.
I think we are all going to be surprised with what Huff does.
I think we are all going to be surprised with what Huff does.
Mullen allocated all of those resources to the State And still only signed half the guys needed in the State. Alabama still go theirs and Ole Miss got theirs. Mississippi doesn’t pump out enough SEC players for us to strictly focus on here like Mullen tried to do.
Somebody tell Coach Huff to get the hell outta Cali. Nothing but soft wussies and snowflakes there.
In what is supposed to be the best year (2019) for Mississippi recruits in last 5-10 years, 2% of the Mississippi kid's are in ESPN 300....so yes we need to be recruiting nationwide....
Some of y’all crack me up. When we are focusing strictly on MS, Alabama, and Louisiana, people flip out about us not having a larger base. Now that a new staff is expanding that base, people say it is a sign that we now may not value MS and the close, regional area enough. I guess if there’s really not much drama to complain about at this particular moment, we have to go manufacture something in our own minds.
Here’s the deal- yes the MS, Alabama, Louisiana, Memphis, etc. area is and always will be our bread and butter. But we also do need to expand our reach. Right now our recruiting radius is the smallest in P5 football, and it isn’t even close. That probably needs to change.
And why the 17 would MS high school coaches be mad about the new staff going after players in other parts of the country as long as we’re still offering their players and giving them fair looks? We can go after high school players outside of the traditional Deep South and still have good relationships with the coaches here. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
Here’s the deal- yes the MS, Alabama, Louisiana, Memphis, etc. area is and always will be our bread and butter. But we also do need to expand our reach. Right now our recruiting radius is the smallest in P5 football, and it isn’t even close. That probably needs to change.
And why the 17 would MS high school coaches be mad about the new staff going after players in other parts of the country as long as we’re still offering their players and giving them fair looks? We can go after high school players outside of the traditional Deep South and still have good relationships with the coaches here. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
I mean, I guess you could point to Dobbs and Voytik, but Dak, Fitz, Taino, (tall black kid from GA whose name escapes me), KT, Mayden, and Jones were all out of state QBs that Mullen got for us. Only KT is within a 4 hour drive of a Starkville.
Absolutely agree. Some years the state has a lot of prospects, but there are other years that we don’t put out 10 SEC caliber players. Assuming we get 6-8 of them in the down years, you’ve got to be in a position to sign 15 guys from out of state rather than filling up on guys that aren’t SEC quality.
To ever have a chance to win national championships, you need to recruit....NATIONALLY!
I'm not saying have a roster full of cali or texas kids, but your staff needs to recruit the big 3 most populous states Cali, Texas, and Florida.
I would like to see our football roster resemble our baseball roster regarding out of state players.
I'm not saying have a roster full of cali or texas kids, but your staff needs to recruit the big 3 most populous states Cali, Texas, and Florida.
I would like to see our football roster resemble our baseball roster regarding out of state players.
Time will tell. We'll have to see how he handles rejection. Mullen tossed out OOS offers left and right. If the kid didn't personally call him and praise his "woke" kicks, he would move on almost immediately. We'll have to see if JoMo has any more stick-to-it-tiness than Mullen.
Somebody tell Coach Huff to get the hell outta Cali. Nothing but soft wussies and snowflakes there.
Maybe there are a lot of quality players and families that want "to get the hell out" of there, too!
(GOOGLE New California.)
Croom tried the recruiting Cally(and Michigan) deal and it failed. The culture is too great for Kids to adapt. Stay in the South and use our biggest advantage--MS JUCOs. Surely you can sign quality players from MS-LA-TX-AL-GA-TN with an occasional FL.kid. We should always have 8-10 JUCOs playing big roles on our team.
Somebody tell Coach Huff to get the hell outta Cali. Nothing but soft wussies and snowflakes there.
1 in 5 are below the poverty level in California and 1 in 3 are on some type of welfare.
Thompson was the first quarterback Mullen got with serious offers. The rest were very lightly recruited.
i know all you guys are recruiting experts that are way more advanced than the men we hired, but before throwing stones at this NEW staff, lets see what they can do. now saying that, i agree with most of you that we need to focus on MS, AL, and LA. but i think they are doing what needs to be done outside also. start by introducing yourself and show that you have character and personal depth. not just some self named QB guru with a quasimodo look and ugly *** shoes. we all have to get our heads out of our own asses sometimes and realize that we aren't a national brand yet. key word is yet. i think we are close. kids know who we are, and mostly because of Dak, but they aren't ready to come here and play. go in, say hello, tell them who you are and what you can do, and let these kids see on the field what your product is. we have to do more than a Gator bowl win to get top players. some pay hookers and the coke dealer, lets do it the right way and win! the players will then want to come here and mammas will want their kid to come here.
................and about the time we do that, FSU will be firing Taggert and scoop and score with JoMo. bastards!
................and about the time we do that, FSU will be firing Taggert and scoop and score with JoMo. bastards!
Croom failed at recruiting Cali so we should never go back there? Jesus you’re a 17ing moron.
If anything we did under Croom in Football is the measuring stick for future success, we need to just shut down the damned program.
All those cali, canadian, and midwest baseball players we signed had trouble adapting to Starkville? C'mon man. A student is a student whether they play football or baseball. People can adapt.
The original question was whether we can sign a highly rated quarterback from out of state (Shrader) with legit offers from power teams. Dax Merlot did not do that until Thompson (8th signing class), don't make it bigger than it is
You could say the dude from Tampa area that signed MLB, but you have to think that is why other teams did not pursue harder
"Kids know who we are and mostly because of Dak". This is EXACTLY why we need to focus nationally. If we can recruit a kid out of cali or some northern state and they become great here then don't ya'll think that just maybe some of these other states will see that the great kid out of their state made it big at ms state and then take notice of our school? Personally I don't care where they come from as long as they are highly regarded. How can we become a national brand if we decide that we will only recruit our area geographically when there maybe some kid that we can actually get to our school who is nationally regarded that is hundreds of miles away?
This is not accurate, but it has been hashed out repeatedly on the boards recently. Either you are going to learn or you are not
And yeah our football program is similar to our baseball program too, get out of here, how can you have a discussion when people have opinions like this
You know, it is interesting. For a fanbase that hasn't seen a SEC Championship since 1941, we sure are one to say we should only focus on MS, when we have done that since the 1940's and only have one SEC Western Division title in 1998 to show for it. Maybe the coach that won the 2016 Big Ten Title knows something about recruiting.
Recruiting Nationally is what every SEC Team does. And Mullen not doing it shows his laziness, not his commitment to MS. Especially when he could barely ever land half of the MS kids. Even if you were to land all the MS kids, you would not have a SEC Contender. Only 2% of the ESPN 300 for the 2019 class are from MS. You just have to recruit nationally.
Recruiting Nationally is what every SEC Team does. And Mullen not doing it shows his laziness, not his commitment to MS. Especially when he could barely ever land half of the MS kids. Even if you were to land all the MS kids, you would not have a SEC Contender. Only 2% of the ESPN 300 for the 2019 class are from MS. You just have to recruit nationally.
Sorry, but your ignorance is showing. QB alone, the last couple of years, Dan signed/had committed .. Dak (LA), Dam (LA), Staley (GA), Tiano (TN), Fitz (GA), Key (LA), Mayden (TX), Jones (MD)
WR .. Bear (AL), Ross (TX), Johnson (AL), Gray (TN), Couch (AL), Mixon (AL), Thomas (TN), Mitchell (FL), Todd (AL)
We currently have ~9 signees/hard commits from other states besides Mississippi.
There are several positions that Mississippi simply doesn't put out a lot of quality recruits for. Such as OL. We need to be recruiting nationwide to fill those positions that Mississippi kids aren't strong at.
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Because civilized human beings know how to have discussions with people who have differing opinions without insulting them.
If you look at the top programs in football, they all recruit nationally. That doesn't mean they don't have any players from their home states, but USC, Ohio State, Bama, Clemson, Notre Dame, etc. all recruit on a national level. That is why they are consistently ranked at the top of the polls. If we ever want to get in the discussion, we need to cast a wider net than MS,TN,LA,AL. Yes, there are very good athletes in these states, but to not pursue talent further out is only hurting our program. So you can say that I am inaccurate, but that would be .....well......an inaccurate statement.
I will challenge you to make a list of all the iconic athletes at State in any and all sports. The guys and gals who made (or are presently making) an impact in their sport. Now, go and look up where they are from. Then remove all of the out of state athletes from your list. How successful would our teams have been without these players? How many games would we have won without them?
They did not just snap their fingers and start doing this successfully overnight
This isn't a rational discussion
No, but they had to start "snapping their fingers" at one time. The topic of this thread is "recruiting nationwide". My "irrational" self is saying we need to cast a wider net in recruiting much like we have always done in baseball. Both Croom and Mullen focused on MS and AL because it was "EASIER" to recruit those areas due to location. I'm hoping Moorhead and staff will not take the "EASY" route in recruiting and look for good athletes nationwide that fit his system. It appears he is going that route. I like it.
Apparently that would be QB positon too. We currently have offered 8 Dual Threat '19 QBs .. zero of which are from Mississippi.
Oh wait .. last ~8 QBs Dan signed/had committed weren't from Mississippi either.**
there is a difference in Baseball and Football or have you noticed. How many teams in the South have football Players from Cally on their roster? A Kid from Cally doesn't do well in Starkville. Who said anythng about the Mid-west or Canada? i would feel alot better about a Kid out of LA. signing and actually playing than a kid from Cally. Time will tell-you might be right.
who remembers the Cally running Back that Sly thought He had locked up? meanwhile the best JUCO rb in the State wanting to come to MSU--Sly says no way, I've got this Stud from Cally. The Gulf Coast kid signs with OKie State and is all-conference and Sly's bigtime Cally recruit bailed on signing Day. Sly had 0 for a RB.
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