Let me preface by saying that i've been on lortab for a couple days so I might have info. crossed. Anyway, look for Wallace to jump in the dumpster and sign with the bears. Seems like he has a girlfriend at oxford (what is up with all of these brothers, sisters, gf's, uncles, family dog, etc. in oxford?). More importantly, their depth chart at qb is quite attractive to a juco transfer (he better think about the OL though). Bottom line is if he wants almost guaranteed playing time, he signs with the bears and takes a beating, but he will be playing. Not saying he wouldn't play for us, but Russell is a hell of a lot better than brunetti.
Recruiting prediction: Bo Wallace
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Let me preface by saying that i've been on lortab for a couple days so I might have info. crossed. Anyway, look for Wallace to jump in the dumpster and sign with the bears. Seems like he has a girlfriend at oxford (what is up with all of these brothers, sisters, gf's, uncles, family dog, etc. in oxford?). More importantly, their depth chart at qb is quite attractive to a juco transfer (he better think about the OL though). Bottom line is if he wants almost guaranteed playing time, he signs with the bears and takes a beating, but he will be playing. Not saying he wouldn't play for us, but Russell is a hell of a lot better than brunetti.
Everybody just assumes that Russell will be the QB next year, but I think if we sign Wallace he'll be given a legitimate chance to win the job. Not saying he would or wouldn't be able todo that, but Ithink we'd be making a mistakeif wesigned him and just put him on the scout team immediately.DirtyLopez said:
Russell performed like an SEC player last year. That's a big step in itself. Wallace may be good, but Russell's proven he's got what it takes on the field. Do you all not remember how good this guy was out of high school? Remember how highly recruited he was? I guess not. He's young. He's going to be a junior this year. He reminds me of Jason Campbell alot, and **** he didn't really step out and develop until his senior year.<div>
</div><div>Typical MSU fan view is to hurry up and get the next guy in here. QB is a tough position to play at MSU. You've got all these idiotic, baseless expectations that came from nowhere. It's not like we've ever had a QB to provide expectations. We should be lucky that Russell can hit a wide open receiver, that puts him in the above average category for Moo U QBs over the years.</div>
</div><div>Typical MSU fan view is to hurry up and get the next guy in here. QB is a tough position to play at MSU. You've got all these idiotic, baseless expectations that came from nowhere. It's not like we've ever had a QB to provide expectations. We should be lucky that Russell can hit a wide open receiver, that puts him in the above average category for Moo U QBs over the years.</div>
I think we'll be in good shape with him as the starter next year. But if we sign Wallace, I think Wallace might have a chance to beat him out. I'd guess less than a 50% chance, but I wouldn't just automatically put Russell's name in pen as #1 until after spring practice.
Where was his recruitment before a week ago? Obviously he's done something to stand out, but it appears the only teams coming after him are ones who have a QB vacancy on their roster. But I guess that's sort of what happened to Cam Newton too, so I may not have a point. But at least Newton had a high rating and review, and most teams stayed away from him because of the checkered past.<div>
</div><div>If the guy is a real talent and has what it takes, I see him signing with a team who needs him to start immediately (UM, Baylor)....not signing with MSU, where he's being recrooted as a roster filler. If we were his only offer, sure. But with Texas and others out there, I don't see it.</div><div>
</div><div>I'd love to have him though, just to get the 3rd QB and the fact, that yes, if he beats out Russell, that can only be a good thing for us.
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</div><div>If the guy is a real talent and has what it takes, I see him signing with a team who needs him to start immediately (UM, Baylor)....not signing with MSU, where he's being recrooted as a roster filler. If we were his only offer, sure. But with Texas and others out there, I don't see it.</div><div>
</div><div>I'd love to have him though, just to get the 3rd QB and the fact, that yes, if he beats out Russell, that can only be a good thing for us.
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but he hasnt been as impressive as I thought he should be by now. Maybe he turns the corner and is All SEC next year maybe he falls in line with every other MSU qb being mediocre at best. All I know is that the more competition he has, the better. How telling would it be if Wallace came in and won the job?
next year just based on the fact that when Tyler is in there for a zone read option play, he's a liability. No OLB is going to commit to him in that situation & they will LOVE for him to keep & tuck as the saftey will come down & smash the hell out of him and the OLB will or DE will just flow with the RB. I honestly like Wallace BETTER if we don't change our system. He (Wallace) ran the option in h.s and people don't sleep on Dak making a hard *** push for the starter job. Plus Tyler has shown he's not durable either. I know he was smashed to pieces vs. LSU, S.C, & Arky games but damn. Getting hurt in before the bowl could've really hurt us & did handcuff Mullen to Relf in that game.
DURABILITY. This isn't Relf we are talking about or a guy like Tebow who is built like a truck. Russell has already shown to be prone to injury and even this year there were at least 2 to 4 games he either wasn't available for or was limited due to injury. And that was with Russell taking a LOT less snaps than what he will be taking this upcoming year. To me its a BIG deal if we don't get Wallace because that tells me that we will likely go into multiple games next fall with only one serviceable QB available (whether its Russell or Prescott who gets dinged up a little bit). We just don't run an offense that keeps a QB protected and Russell is just NOT gifted at avoiding flush hits. I've not seen Wallace so I have no idea if he can beat out Russell or Prescott or both but I do know that playing an SEC season with only 2 QBs is basically playing Russian Roulette. If you are lucky you come out OK but if not you are screwed. Wallace was a 6-5 JUCO player of the year QB so I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he is at least decent. On the other hand I guess the Bears will likely now have Mackey, Stoudt, Brunetti, Wallace, Miller and maybe Liggins all to look at for their QB spot next year. I do wonder if they sign Wallace will Liggins rethink what he is going to do. Apparently the Texas HS QB commit threatening to decommit is what kept Texas from offering Wallace. Of course we don't have that worry since we apparently can't locate a HS QB worth a flip that will come with us this year. And also if we don't sign Wallace we will likely be in need of JUCO QB next year unless we either plan to roll the dice two years in a row with only 2 QBs OR we plan to play a QB as a true freshman. The only other option might be if we get the Amory QB in as a walkon and he turns out to be good enough to put on scholarship the next year.
I guess you are by default more durable if you play in a system where the QB isn't exposed as much to being hit. For example, AJ McCarron in a system like Alabama runs rarely gets hit that much as he stays in the pocket and has a top notch OL.
He holds the ball for 8-10 seconds, or until he gets cold-cocked by some 350 lb. Defensive tackle, instead of throwing the ball to a checkdown option or out of bounds.
Didn't Relf play with broken ribs last year?
As far as changing the offense- I think with Tyler we will see little, if any zone read option stuff and more throwing. We can use Dak to run the option stuff.
Having a better o-line will be key for us. Holley and Siddoway are huge recruits in terms of we need them to pan out.
Hopefully that, along with better play from our WR's due to having a QB that can actually hit them in stride and our usual decent running game will help out as well.
As far as changing the offense- I think with Tyler we will see little, if any zone read option stuff and more throwing. We can use Dak to run the option stuff.
Having a better o-line will be key for us. Holley and Siddoway are huge recruits in terms of we need them to pan out.
Hopefully that, along with better play from our WR's due to having a QB that can actually hit them in stride and our usual decent running game will help out as well.
won't or that I'll know where he is going to go, but I just have a hard time understanding how someone that essentially calls freeze an idiot goes back to him.
Relf had rib injuries and was a possible reason he played so poorly for a stretch. But we KNOW that Russell had knee injury issues through the year and Relf missed a couple of games with a concussion. This is the freakin' SEC we are playing in, injuries at some point to a QB is a pretty decent possibility.
about leaving Arkansas St. because of Freeze. Rivals reported it several weeks ago. Bo said the reason he left was because he knew that Arkansas St. already had their QB and he wasn't going to get playing time. He had an unofficial visit with Freeze several weeks ago and had nothing but good things to say about the experience.
Let's see the exact quote from Wallace about Freeze, and then the quote where he said he was misquoted. Then we can make up our own minds, instead of letting Yancy and Neal do it for us.
I don't know about liggins but Mays threw for over 3000 yds with a 60+% completion rate. Someone will give him a shot at qb. Quit judging people based solely on height. Mays is same height as Brees. He is a very accurate passer so he will get an opportunity. That being said, we could use either of those guys in other positions if we don't need them at qb. They are both superb athletes.
Weird that they are both MSU guys. Funny how the UM guys don't want to come up with the quote themselves. Still haven't seen anywhere where Wallace explains how he was misquoted. Guess that was one of Yancy's 'tidbits'.
This guy here said, in this thread, that there was a Rivals story that explained where Wallace was misquoted. Said it ran a few weeks ago. If that's the case, surely one of you can come up with it. I don't see anywhere where Wallace himself said that he was misquoted, only spin from you rebels. That's the quote I'm looking for. Either get it, or shut up trying to defend something that's not there.
I read the article probably a month ago. I said in the title that he said "something to the effect that he was misquoted." I don't remember everything the article said. That is what I inferred from reading the article at the time. There certainly doesn't appear to be any animosity between Bo and Freeze at this time though.
<div>I said (for the last time) that IF he claims he was misquoted, the actual quote doesn't matter. </div><div>
</div>I also don't care if he did say he was misquoted. He could have called Hugh Freeze a ***** and a moron, I couldn't give a rat's ***, if he comes to Ole Miss. And you would feel the same way.
</div>I also don't care if he did say he was misquoted. He could have called Hugh Freeze a ***** and a moron, I couldn't give a rat's ***, if he comes to Ole Miss. And you would feel the same way.