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The thing is so many of the most talented prospects are in AA or low A Ball. Daytona is a game above. 500 today, the Lookouts are dead last in the Southern League. Prospects will surely rise from there though soon enough with the recent promotion of Levi Stoudt to AAA and plenty of talent in Chattanooga from McGarry, De La Cruz, McLain, Abott, CES, Vellojin, Phillips, Siani among a few other of the Reds Top 50 prospects. Marte & Arroyo shouldn't be too far off from AA.
 
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I'm sure the AFL will be his best shot to make the move. just throwing him out there with no guidance in AA ball could be detrimental. It's a move that will need to happen in the off season where he can workout at the position before being thrown into the fire. but I agree, something has to give at SS and 3B and moving DLC to CF will be a good start.
Fair point and that makes sense to not to disrupt things from a transition late in the season from the infield. In the meantime, the goal should still be to get him some run in Louisville with and AFL experience with a shot to break camp with the Reds next spring or soon after.
 

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The bad news for the Reds is that the Bats have sucked too. Bats game I went to a couple weeks ago had: J Dunn, Almora, Fraley, Aquino, Lopez & Barrero in the starting lineup...they got thumped 6-0 in 5.

When the big league club has a talent and roster void, it drains the whole system.
Last time I looked Reds/Bats had almost identical records. Haven't checked lately but I think Dayton is the only Reds connected team above .500 and it was just barely.
 

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Sadak saying DLC is the 4th youngest position player in AA right now. That shouldn't be means in of itself to hold one back if they are ready. Case by case basis.
 

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Braves just called up their top prospect...from AA.
Wow! Even crazier it's the 2nd one this year with Vaugh Grissom & Michael Harris II 21 years from AA who has made an impact in the lineup since his call up. Have to admire their drive to win. Especially for a franchise coming off a World Series and a history of calling up young prospects from Heyward, Soroka, Acuna and even Andruw Jones during their run in the 90s. Couldn't make a huge splash at the deadline as a small market but didn't let that stop them by promoting from within to stay relevant.
 

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Wow! Even crazier it's the 2nd one this year with Vaugh Grissom & Michael Harris II 21 years from AA who has made an impact in the lineup since his call up. Have to admire their drive to win. Especially for a franchise coming off a World Series and a history of calling up young prospects from Heyward, Soroka, Acuna and even Andruw Jones during their run in the 90s. Couldn't make a huge splash at the deadline as a small market but didn't let that stop them by promoting from within to stay relevant.
Keep in mind Braves drafted much lower than Reds in recent years yet have more advanced players. Says a lot about scouting and development.

One thing that raises my ire is: "Well, don't want to start their clock just yet." Why not? Reds aren't going to resign those guys anyway, too freaking cheap.
 

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Keep in mind Braves drafted much lower than Reds in recent years yet have more advanced players. Says a lot about scouting and development.

One thing that raises my ire is: "Well, don't want to start their clock just yet." Why not? Reds aren't going to resign those guys anyway, too freaking cheap.
Grissom home run in his MLB Debut. Doing something right to pluck 2 guys out of AA in Grissom & Harris that make an impact.
 
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Grissom home run in his MLB Debut. Doing something right to pluck 2 guys out of AA in Grissom & Harris that make an impact.
Reds facing a very bleak 50 some odd games with very little to show for the future. Hitting is woeful, pitching even worse. Maybe in the next 7-10 days they'll finally start moving prospects but I'm not holding my breath.
 

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Second straight game Lodolo couldn't get out of the 5th Inning. I like Lodolo but the more I see him the more I think he isn't a #1 stopper type guy, probably 4th or 5th in the rotation. Reds are going to have to step up in the FA starter off season market or '23 will be far worse that '22.
 

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Second straight game Lodolo couldn't get out of the 5th Inning. I like Lodolo but the more I see him the more I think he isn't a #1 stopper type guy, probably 4th or 5th in the rotation. Reds are going to have to step up in the FA starter off season market or '23 will be far worse that '22.
And wind up with another Mike Minor?
Though what will happen with Trevor Bauer when he comes off suspension? Will he stick with the Dodgers? Could the Reds get him back on the cheap?
 

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And wind up with another Mike Minor?
Though what will happen with Trevor Bauer when he comes off suspension? Will he stick with the Dodgers? Could the Reds get him back on the cheap?
Lodolo throws harder than Minor, at least now. If he improves his command of "feel" pitches he may develop.

Wouldn't touch Bauer with a 10 ft pole.
 

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Keep in mind Braves drafted much lower than Reds in recent years yet have more advanced players. Says a lot about scouting and development.

One thing that raises my ire is: "Well, don't want to start their clock just yet." Why not? Reds aren't going to resign those guys anyway, too freaking cheap.
It’s the reason they don’t want to start their clock. You can retain a player’s rights for an extra year instead of them playing meaningless baseball. The system sucks, but teams are correct in playing it.
 

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Reds should make every effort to sign Ian Happ in the off season if for no other reason so they won't have to face him.
 

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Reds should make every effort to sign Ian Happ in the off season if for no other reason so they won't have to face him.
Always noticed he's a 'Reds killer.' Must have been hard up for All-Stars as he is nothing special, having a career year on a horrible team that would be just an average year for a perennial All-Star. Tears the hell out of the Reds every time he plays them, especially at GABP.
 

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On the plus side, #1 draft pick Collier just starting to play in Arizona and in most recent game went 4 for 4 with a HR, hitting over .400.
 

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Dunn showing out about the same as he did in AAA for the bats this year. He’s an Almora hr robbery in his first outing from giving up 5 spots in both games.

Not gobbling up innings either.

Who else they got waiting in the wings ready for a starting spot? Might as well bring up another young guy and go 6 man (if they aren’t already).
 

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Dunn showing out about the same as he did in AAA for the bats this year. He’s an Almora hr robbery in his first outing from giving up 5 spots in both games.

Not gobbling up innings either.

Who else they got waiting in the wings ready for a starting spot? Might as well bring up another young guy and go 6 man (if they aren’t already).
Dunn doesn't give them much to build on. RHP Stoudt/LHP Williamson with the Bats could be possible. Both 24, Stoudt obtained from Seattle recently pretty highly regarded. Actually surprised Williamson hasn't been called up yet. Younger prospects in lower classifications have been rocked of late.
 

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Dunn showing out about the same as he did in AAA for the bats this year. He’s an Almora hr robbery in his first outing from giving up 5 spots in both games.

Not gobbling up innings either.

Who else they got waiting in the wings ready for a starting spot? Might as well bring up another young guy and go 6 man (if they aren’t already).
There's no reason why Brandon Williamson hasn't been called up with the way things have been going in Cincinnati. Overton should be back off the IL before the season ends.
 

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Always noticed he's a 'Reds killer.' Must have been hard up for All-Stars as he is nothing special, having a career year on a horrible team that would be just an average year for a perennial All-Star. Tears the hell out of the Reds every time he plays them, especially at GABP.
It would be like Cincinnati to offer him a contact in the back half of his career when the money could go to extending the contracts of young players like India, Stephenson and the young pitchers. Happ is just a solid player at best and that's being generous. What Senzel wishes he could be when he grows up.
 

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He does but probably won't get the call this year only being in A Ball Daytona.
Probably but he's a college pitcher and 23 y/o.

Sometimes I think the Reds could have Acuna, Judge et al and they'd just now be getting to High A.
 

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It would be like Cincinnati to offer him a contact in the back half of his career when the money could go to extending the contracts of young players like India, Stephenson and the young pitchers. Happ is just a solid player at best and that's being generous. What Senzel wishes he could be when he grows up.
I think the Reds attempt to move Senzel in the off season. Question will be...do they find a taker?
 

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I think the Reds attempt to move Senzel in the off season. Question will be...do they find a taker?
I'm not sure there's anyone stupid enough to take on him and Moustakas. The 'prospect' status ship has sailed on Nick some time ago and Moustakas goes without saying. I suspect Senzel is here another season with the piss poor OF depth though after 2023, need to grow a pair like the Cubs did with Heyward and shitcan both at the end of the season with a buyout on the table for Moose's 2024 season on the deal.
 

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Probably but he's a college pitcher and 23 y/o.

Sometimes I think the Reds could have Acuna, Judge et al and they'd just now be getting to High A.
Especially with how long Votto and an NL All-Star starter with Winker took to arrive. An organization approach that has stood the test of time with the Castellini's. The Braves have 4 players 23 or younger contributing at a high level for them this season.
 

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I'm not sure there's anyone stupid enough to take on him and Moustakas. The 'prospect' status ship has sailed on Nick some time ago and Moustakas goes without saying. I suspect Senzel is here another season with the piss poor OF depth though after 2023, need to grow a pair like the Cubs did with Heyward and shitcan both at the end of the season with a buyout on the table for Moose's 2024 season on the deal.
Even if De La Cruz starts in the outfield for the Reds on Opening Day and it works out well, considering the Reds haven't even announced they plan to move him, still would need 2 more quality outfielders. Fraley may be able to stick around if he can keep this up but still could use a couple more in the OF. Why the Reds haven't promoted Steer yet facing losing him this year in the Rule 5 if they don't, the OF Alex McGarry to Louisville Rule 5 eligible after 2023 is beyond me.
 
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Never have heard of the word "Zeuch" so I looked it up. Turns out it's Irish. Think it must mean Irish for "sucks."
 

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What fans that are in the stands cheering on Castellanos with that home run. I appreciated his time with Cincinnati and gave this team an edge that is sorely lacking.
 

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Never have heard of the word "Zeuch" so I looked it up. Turns out it's Irish. Think it must mean Irish for "sucks."
True to his name tonight. Enjoy listening to Eric Davis and his honest commentary. Wish he had a role on this coaching staff. The man knows a thing or two about hitting. That's for sure!
 

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True to his name tonight. Enjoy listening to Eric Davis and his honest commentary. Wish he had a role on this coaching staff. The man knows a thing or two about hitting. That's for sure!
Davis was great! Thought he really unloaded on Aquino, claiming he was unwilling to make changes in his approach that could benefit him...and the Reds. Pretty sure Davis is some kind of "advisor" to the FO. Not really sure what that entails. His comments and their general discussion was a nice diversion from another dreadful performance by the Reds.
 

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Full of BS excuses enabling the Reds for not calling up Spencer Steer at all in 2023.
https://blogredmachine.com/posts/reds-should-wait-until-2023-to-promote-spencer-steer-major-leagues
Doesn't take him being called up to get a 40-man roster spot regardless. By all means, lets keep Ronnie Dawson on there for fear some other club is busting down doors to claim him off waivers..
Agreed, pure BS. CE-S needs the call too.

I love Farmer, I get it that he's a leader. But are you going to run the risk of sacrificing your rebuild to satisfy a lifetime .250 hitter? Make him the DH.
 

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A quick run thru the Reds minor league system reveals ALL their Minor League teams are sub-.500. Some organizations load a team with top prospects, most do spread the top prospects throughout the system so that's not totally surprising. However, a closer look shows most of the high draft position players of recent years are really, really struggling to hit, I'm talking .180-.220 stuff. Frankly, it's pretty disheartening.

Lodolo has struggled of late, important start for him today(Wed).