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It depends, as Sam LeCure said in the pregame show today it is not necessarily best for the player though referring to CES. He said it is a good problem for the Reds but that narrative has changed since the beginning of the season when many of us questioned the outfield depth within the organization. Still weak in the pipeline and need a solid outfielder in the draft for a few years down the road. Thankfully Benson and Friedl have turned it around, Fraley stay healthy for the most part and Steer willing to be the one to make an outfield transition.
Regarding India, are you trading him in the offseason as a .250 Jonathan India that struggles defensively at 2B or a potential 20/20 guy, former NL ROTY. No one is suggesting trade him now as that would be pointless in 2023. Anything less than the 2021 version of India, I can't see him going for more than a solid 3rd rotation option and it is selling low. He is the leader but needs to be stepping up his production at the plate and improve in the field.
Not going to get anything for Senzel or Newman. They're expendable but that does not mean there is a huge demand in the market for their services. Players like them in MLB are a dime a dozen. For the time being, Senzel is cheap and best used off the bench with his versatility.
Maybe a team hard up for a catcher will send a serviceable player but you aren't going to get anything quality in return without giving up much regarding players like Senzel and other backups. Teams don't want role players but if the Reds have any aspirations of acquiring a difference maker, teams want prospects like CES & Marte who have a high ceiling and not our rejects. Reds cannot afford to part with those prospects nor should they if Cincinnati stays patient with the pitching help to return off the IL in August, Phillips & Richardson not far off. Chase Petty in the coming years.
Also these college pitchers like Hubbart and possibly Lowder could advance through MILB as Abbott did. Still hope they use the money coming off the books after 2024 to sign contract extensions instead an expensive free agent like Castellanos only to walk away and then have no money left to sign the rest and trade them off in another inevitable fire sale.
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MLB Network analysts like the Reds draft so far. Hope the Reds have plans on transitioning Stafura to a new position if they plan on keeping any of the current infielders or prospects in the next 5-10 years.
Stafura looks like an OF to me, don't think he has infield talent skills to be a threat to current Reds.
Didn't see that coming but there is a relationship playing with Aaron Boone. Always thought he would be good in a coaching role for the Reds in the past.
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Seems like an odd fit, don't know that he would be their hitting coach if it wasn't for Boone. As stacked as that lineup is with power hitters, Sean Casey was not much of one during his career. They should have hired one of their own in Don Mattingly or Tino Martinez.
Maybe for that team. It is a trial run through the end of the year. Wouldn't be shocked if they look elsewhere at the end of the year. I think Casey would make a fine manager someday with his player relations and delegate the coaching to the position coaches. A players manager like Dusty.
It is a good entry level position if he is going to be groomed as a manager someday. The 'player manager' approach though does not always work out. David Ross while he has had to deal with a fire sale, still under .500 and they spent money over the offseason.
Hunter Hollan - LHP Arkansas in the 3rd Round.
Cole Schoenwetter - RHP HS out of CA in the 4th Round.
Connor Burns - Catcher Long Beach State in the 5th Round.
Cole Schoenwetter - RHP HS out of CA in the 4th Round.
Connor Burns - Catcher Long Beach State in the 5th Round.
6. Ethan O'Donnell - OF Virginia
7. Dominic Pitelli - SS Miami
8. Carter Graham - 1B Stanford
9. Logan Van Treeck - LHP Lipscomb
10. Graham Osman - LHP Long Beach State
7. Dominic Pitelli - SS Miami
8. Carter Graham - 1B Stanford
9. Logan Van Treeck - LHP Lipscomb
10. Graham Osman - LHP Long Beach State
Three of first 10 are LHPs, glad to see that.
Some of these college pitchers closer to being MLB ready would be some enticing trade pieces to package in a deal in years to come rather than having to sell teams on 18-19 year olds 3-4 years off from contributing at the MLB level. I know the Reds are best off keeping prospects and promote them to Cincinnati than trading off for expensive rentals but there comes a point when you just can't keep everyone, especially for many of the talented infield prospects.
And heavy emphasis on college guys who should hopefully be closer to MLB ready or at least be shoring up the depth in the higher levels of the minor leagues in the next few years
Great start by Ashcraft. Offense couldn't do anything again with Burnes or the Brewers bullpen.
Beats me. Will never forget the way he went out flipping off the fans. Should have never experimented with him as a starter. Outside of his All-Star '04 season which was still shaky in itself, never was the same pitcher after starting and flamed out way too early. I don't doubt a bit that '03 season starting him had quite a bit to do with it later on.
Totally forgot about that but he referenced the incident during his speech apparently. He was still a great closer, just the timing that I don't get. But with the fans voting, it's obviously a popularity contest.
Btw, all the Nasty Boys should get in. Not just Dibble.
Graves is also fortunate no one is hardly left if anyone in the organization today to hold grudges since that incident took place in the Carl Lindner years instead of the Castellini's a year later after he left in '05. I guess time heals all wounds, he worked as an analyst on FOX Sports Ohio and briefly last year on the Bally pregame shows for Cincinnati to help redeem his image.
To be quite honest, I don't put much stock into the timing team for Reds Hall of Fame inductions with the real Hall of Famers this Cincinnati franchise has had over the years when you go back and look at the timing certain players getting in before members of the Big Red Machine. Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame members The losing since the 90s will also water it down with the exceptions of players like Votto, BP and the likes. Being the franchise saves leader, Graves should be in but definitely don't hold him in the same lore as an Aroldis Chapman for the overall impact of his Reds tenure even if it was shorter. All 3 Nasty Boys should go in at once though, only way to do it right.
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The Cowboy should go in as a player/broadcaster as UK did with Mike Pratt. Apart of the last Reds team that did anything in a postseason and even led the league in saves one year with Cincinnati. Will soon be approaching 20 years doing Reds radio and limited TV.
Totally agree. I'd throw in Francisco Cordero as well at some point at #2 on the Reds saves list.
Absolutely with Cordero, 150 saves in 4 years is remarkable. He is deserving and have to give him a lot of credit helping bridge the gap in the late 2000s and the closer of the NL Central Championship season until Chapman was ready in '12. Probably one of the best FA signings in the Castellini era and was happy back then he left Milwaukee for Cincinnati.
He is another good one much like the Cowboy and from just as a player would get in before Jeff if it were up to me. May not have had the longest Reds careers but both were very effective in the years they were in Cincinnati.