Refs
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Absolutely, but a wrong call doesn't become less wrong based on what happens on the next play.
The refs aren't out there to "protect" anyone, they aren't told by the league who they should favor, they just suck. If they were trying to skew it, they would have given them the first down on that review.
I don't think he knows the difference. Just from his posts, he doesn't understand that targeting is reviewable which is why they get overturned. Taunting is not, someone on that crew talked the man who threw the flag out of his call. Which is strange since he was closest to the action.
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As has been referenced by others, that "phantom" holding call on Pierce was absolutely pivotal.
At that point, RU's up by 7 and driving, had gotten in Wolverine territory once again, and had Michigan on its heels. The Knights were picking up yardage in chunks and you could just feel the momentum on the Rutgers side of the ball. -If RU scores there and goes up 14 to zip, then who knows what the dynamic of the rest of the game would have been?
Now, am I saying that RU would have definitely won if not for that BS penalty? Absolutely not. -But had we scored another TD there, I have a feeling the game might have unfolded in a dramatically different way.
Of course, it's a moot point since we'll never know, but damn, at that moment, that bogus flag was an absolute KILLER.
At that point, RU's up by 7 and driving, had gotten in Wolverine territory once again, and had Michigan on its heels. The Knights were picking up yardage in chunks and you could just feel the momentum on the Rutgers side of the ball. -If RU scores there and goes up 14 to zip, then who knows what the dynamic of the rest of the game would have been?
Now, am I saying that RU would have definitely won if not for that BS penalty? Absolutely not. -But had we scored another TD there, I have a feeling the game might have unfolded in a dramatically different way.
Of course, it's a moot point since we'll never know, but damn, at that moment, that bogus flag was an absolute KILLER.
Refs are just people like the rest of us. They panicked when the wrong team scored early. They felt they needed to intercede, but I think Michigan had the horses to win the game on their own. But in the end they weren’t the deciding factor in the outcome.
Lol what? Wasn't the block in the back on Gavin? Refs are absolutely supposed to protect the QB.
They interceded a LOT!
They kept interceding and interceding until M won. It was very “aren’t right”!
Agreed.
Refs are missing calls that pact both teams.
Teams at the top make more good plays to offset the bad calls. Underdogs have a much thinner margin of error so missed calls can be more impactful.
Ticky tack. Refs let that go.
Not protecting if he’s 40 yards downfield and trying to make a play…and you don’t see them protecting in CFB as much as in the pros. Hartmann took some big hits last night which would have been flagged in the NFL.
All the complaints are nitpicking except for the phantom Pierce hold
I had no big problem with the Int play - Refs should not be protecting a QB when he is trying to make a play 40 yards down field. When happening- I'm yelling at the kid to just let him go- there was a defender that could have leveled him.
But, there really were two other plays- KM was still moving that pile and got the first down. And their RB was also moving forward when he lost his fumble.
Both plays were huge and had a direct impact.
One play I haven't rewatched because the Mich WR made the TD catch- was the flag on Melton for PI on the play. Watching it, it looked like he had position, did have his eye on the ball and shouldnt have been called as they let similar go all game long.
I may be wrong but that was my initial though
That really was a bullchit call. And it had a huge impact on the way the game started out.
Rewatched the call on Pierce 5 times and didn’t see a hold.
had a perfect block- hands kept inside his own shoulder pads and he let go as soon as the runner passed by. Textbook block
Nah, I think the "were always the victim" schtick starts waaaaaay before kickoff.
At home...pre-game...against Wagner ? I think you're way off on this one.
BTW, more to the point....tell us where Pierce was guilty of holding.
And I'll show you similar activity by O-lines on every friggin play.
You don’t think they are persuaded to favor the blue bloods in B1G football games then you have not been watching many games.
We would never get the call in a million years but the PI on Melton was much closer to be offensive PI. The guy who made the catch pushed off Melton for sure to get an extra second of space. Doesn’t always get called there though so I say no call could be appropriate. It was a bad call to call it on Melton there. Obviously it was declined anyway.
Love or hate Schiano, whining about refs is bad form for a coach. 2-3 calls isn't a conspiracy. Its just bad officiating and human error and we got a couple that went our way ourselves. The whole "we have to will a perfect script or the bottom will fall out" model needs to go.
disagree, he needs to be even more vocal about it
something needs to be done about officiating in the BIG as it's terrible and seemingly always favor Michigan and OSU
Disagree but in a good way- that was a perfect block in every way. For an OL, this is a great block- not just a very good one
There were questionable calls against Michigan too. We did not lose because of the refs. A holding call doesn't make or break a game.
it changed the dynamic of the game which is why it was egregious
needs to be accountability there as refs should not decide a game. Now it was early but it 1st down, mid field, up 7, ripping off a 30+yard run does have a dynamic any team would want
Fair enough. I can agree with that and truthfully, it might not surprise me if Ohio St and Michigan are protected, though i dont see that myself.
I kinda think you have to expect to overcome some adversity to beat a top team in their house. I agree the call stunk but disagree he should go complain to the sideline reporter about it.
I kinda think you have to expect to overcome some adversity to beat a top team in their house. I agree the call stunk but disagree he should go complain to the sideline reporter about it.
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Well I walked into a bar today and ran into a guy who knows I'm an RU fan. First thing he says to me is "boy those refs yesterday screwed your team"...so this is not any RU bias here. Even the common fan saw the screw job.
Did the refs prevent Rutgers from not scoring for 59 minutes?
Yes, that’s the complaint. Hard to score when your positive plays get called back.