Religion Question:

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

I just fail to see what either of you are really trying to accomplish. Catholicism, along with most Protestantism believe in the same exact foundation. That Jesus is the Christ, son of the living God who sacrificed himself so we may have eternal life. If you believe, accept him as your savior, and are baptized...you get to experience that glory. Whether the need for a Pope or Bishop was designed by Jesus, or needed, or issues regarding Purgatory are not entirely accurate really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. It doesn't matter if Apostolic Pentecostal's take the old testament a tad more seriously and only wear certain fabrics, or skirts, or eat certain foods. Its literally arguments about nothing when looked at in the grand scheme of things.

 

[KentuckyStout]

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The keys are a symbol of Peter's office in Primacy to be handed on to his successor just as it has been handed down through the Ages of History.

The "keys of the kingdom" here refer to the kingdom being opened up to first Jews, then Jewish proselytes (Acts 2:4, 41) then to Samaritans (Acts 8:14-17) and then to the Gentiles (Acts 10:45).

It has reference to the Jews no longer being God's chosen people, but the way being opened up (as if by a key) to everyone.

Jesus entrusted Peter with “the keys of the kingdom of the heavens,” which Peter used (by the preaching work) to open up the way to the Kingdom for these groups, based upon their acceptance of Jesus. Although Peter played a very important role, he was never the head of the early Christian congregation, nor did he ever make decisions for them as a group.

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

The "keys of the kingdom" here refer to the kingdom being opened up to first Jews, then Jewish proselytes (Acts 2:4, 41) then to Samaritans (Acts 8:14-17) and then to the Gentiles (Acts 10:45).

It has reference to the Jews no longer being God's chosen people, but the way being opened up (as if by a key) to everyone.

Jesus entrusted Peter with “the keys of the kingdom of the heavens,” which Peter used (by the preaching work) to open up the way to the Kingdom for these groups, based upon their acceptance of Jesus. Although Peter played a very important role, he was never the head of the early Christian congregation, nor did he ever make decisions for them as a group.

Interesting you choose to leave out the reference also being pointed to in Isaiah 22: 20-22 ---Where Hezekiah, royal heir to David's throne and king of Israel in Isaiah's day replaced his old prime minister, Shebna with a new one named Eliakim. Everyone could tell which one of the royal cabinet members with the new prime minister since he was given the "Keys of the Kingdom". Jesus thus is referring to and establishing the office of Prime Minister for administering the church as his kingdom on Earth.

But that one doesn't suit your argument to well. Again, lets not look at the ENTIRE picture.

 

[CatManDoo_rivals376463]

Whether the need for a Pope or Bishop was designed by Jesus, or needed, or issues regarding Purgatory are not entirely accurate really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Exactly, but Rome would disagree. And if Rome disagrees, then you, my friend, are not a Catholic.

 

[CatManDoo_rivals376463]

CMD thinks he and his religion are better than everyone else. He is the problem in religion.

Um, there's only one person in this thread who has claimed that his church is the one, true church, and it's not me.

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

Exactly, but Rome would disagree. And if Rome disagrees, then you, my friend, are not a Catholic.

I disagree. I am a Universal Christian. I just happen to prefer the traditions of worship etc. as laid out in the Catholic church to anything else. Also, maybe read up on Pope Francis. The Catholic Church is changing quite a bit in some ways... and I believe its for the better. There was a time there was no way in hell a gay person could think about being Catholic. Thats changing. Its like one of my favorite quotes states:

"Whether or not you believe in God, you must believe this: when we as a species abandon our trust in a power greater than us, we abandon our sense of accountability. Faiths… all faiths… are admonitions that there is something we cannot understand, something to which we are accountable. With faith we are accountable to each other, to ourselves, and to a higher truth. Religion is flawed, but only because man is flawed. The church consists of a family of imperfect, simple souls wanting only to be a voice of compassion in a world spinning out of control.”

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

Im not saying the Catholic Church is the only way to heaven. The whole reason I brought this up was due to a mother-in-law that believes her sole was is the only way. Im not saying the Catholic Church is the ONLY way. I think its a misrepresentation to portray them as such. I just fail to see where the Catholic Church is viewed in a light of not being "christian".

 

[Primedfor9]

Pope Francis is conforming to worldly standards, anyone who does that is apostate.