Remeber that USM RB that had 5lbs of MJ?

dawgatUSM

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it was probably about 2 or 3 months ago... perhaps during spring training. He's actually the back up back, but it was a big story down here...
 

GINASFS

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It seems like Fedora isn't afraid to make some questionable decisions on kids that could help him win.

Of course every Southern Miss fan I know still won't hesitate to tell me about all the criminals that play for Ole Miss/State.
 

dawgatUSM

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He pled guilty to possession of the 5 pounds of Mary Jane (why was there no intent to distribute again?)... He got 6 months probation. He's now back on the team. Unreal
 

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GINASFS said:
It seems like Fedora isn't afraid to make some questionable decisions on kids that could help him win.

Hell, after Bower let rapists and murderers (OK, OK, technically statutory rapists and manslaughterers) play, letting a guy caught with 5 lbs of weed seems pretty tame. </p>
 

DerHntr

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be happy to have Titus back if the University would allow it.

Every team is going to have criminals on it. We are no different. It just amazes me how we all get high and mighty when another team gets their criminals back on the team and we don't.

I always think of it like this. You walk out of the grocery store and forget to pay for the crap on the bottom rack of your cart. You didn't steal it on purpose but hey...you are at your car now so screw it. Load it up because you got away with it and the folks inside let it happen by not doing a good job. Now if you see someone in line in front of you do the same thing and you notice that they didn't pay....17ing THIEF
 

Agentdog

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He must be "rolling" on someone and has a good attorney. Because anybody who has 5lbs is carrying for someone within the drug organization or selling. </p>
 

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1. I don't want Titus back. I hope he learned something. I hope he doesn't do something that stupid again. But, there have to be consequences. His consequence is that he gets to move on from what could have been a highlight year in his life. It's the way it should be.

2. If I don't go back and pay the grocery, them I am a damn theif and so is anybody else that does that ****.

If you mean by all teams having criminals, you mean that there are people who have committed crimes on every team, you are probably right. Different coaches have different viewpoints on the severity of the crimes, when the crimes occured, and what the consequences should be based on the circumstances. Croom tossed Titus, but Pegues is still on the team after beating the 17 out of a cop. Overall, I haven't disagreed much with Croom's decisions on disciplinary matters.

As for the USM kid -- how in the hell you can have a bale of MJ and not be intending to distibute is beyond me. That's a lot of smoking for one guy to do. Here's a case of the coach using the fact that the judicial system let the guy off light as a justification for going light on the guy himself.
 

patdog

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But he graduated, so that can't happen. Now Michael Brown is a different story. And, as much as it hurts our OL, I don't think he should have been allowed to play this year. He FIRED A GUN ON CAMPUS! It's not like this is an issue with a lot of gray area. I really do think he's an overall good person who made a bad mistake. But I just don't see how you can allow someone to make that mistake and still play without a year's suspension.
 

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wanted to take it easy on a USM athlete. If he's involved in a drug dealing syndicate (good chance he is), he'd be a lot smarter to just go to jail than to start turning guys in. That's a good way to wind up dead.</p>
 

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that he wasn't dealing with Forrest Allgood and Jim Kitchens. 5lbs gets you some time in this circuit.
 

patdog

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Dontae had cocaine in addition to the MJ. That steps it up to a whole different level of seriousness. I don't know anything about Forrest Algood, but if we had more judges like Jim Kitchens, this country would be a lot safer (and better) place to live.

Edited to add that Dontae got 3 years for the MJ and 22 years for the crack cocaine. Also, I think he had more like 20 lbs of MJ compared to the 5 lbs the USM player had.
 

Porkchop.sixpack

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but, i can tell you that I wouldnt give a **** if that happened to him. How can you guys feel so strongly about whether a drug dealer gets 5 or 20?
 

patdog

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Dontae only got 3 years for the MJ, and he had 4 times as much as the USM back did.
 

hatfieldms

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Pot should be legal, so obviously I don't think he should get any jail time for it. crack is a whole other story though. with that being said this country's mandatory drug laws are *#@#%#! ridiculous.
 

DerHntr

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sorry for the slip.

my point was that we had a thread on here where a lot of people wanted them back. i said i didn't want him back because he fired a gun on campus but the point remains that we have a lot of pot/kettle situations when it comes to criminals on teams.
 

patdog

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I do think there's at least a good chance Dontae would have gotten less than the 3 years he did get for the marijuana if that was all he had on him. But the argument can definitely be made that pot should be legal (or at least possession of small amounts legal and larger amounts only legal with a license to sell it).
 

futaba.79

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in my post, did I?

Jim Kitchens is a tough judge and I respect that. However, I'd rather have an impartial judge. Too many of Kitchen's pro-prosecution decisions come back to bite the taxpayers in the *** on appeal. </p>
 
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Allegedly there were problems with the DA's case (search problems) and there was a chance there would be no indictment. Harrison plead guilty to possession and the judge hasn't adjudicated the case- meaning it's in limbo to see if he can stay off the ganja train. There is no legal conviction against Harrison and won't be if he does what he's supposed to do. They do that second-chance thing a lot here as opposed to what Jim Kichens would do. He probably rolled his source, too. He did lose his scholarship for his trouble.
 

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I just think the punishment should fit the crime. 25 years for dealing drugs is absolutely ridiculous. Like I've said before, I know someone who killed another person in a DUI accident and he served 1/3 the time Dontae will. Location is the only difference in the 2 cases. Starkville's laws and judges suck ***.</p>
 

Porkchop.sixpack

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I just think the punishment should fit the crime
It should. I agree. It's just that I have a hard time getting all fired up about the fact that we put a drug dealer away for longer than we should have. If someone were to ask me, I would say Dontae got too long a sentence. But, I really don't give a ****, though.

But, let's not go down the road of comparing the sentence to someone that clearly got off too light. Kill someone in a DUI accident? 8 years ain't enough for that. Speaking of which, I see that "I ran into a light pole on Coliseum Blvd and killed my friend" dude was indicted. But, I still haven't heard about "Game Warden that killed two friends and fled the scene" dude.
 

patdog

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Porkchop said:
Kill someone in a DUI accident? 8 years ain't enough for that.
8 years is a long time to spend in jail for something you didn't have any intent of doing. Clearly they guy was stupid and negligent and should be held criminally responsible. But he didn't have any actual intent of killing or injuring anybody. I think something in the 5 to 10 year range should be enough for that. Anyone whose ever driven drunk (and I suspect that's almost everyone who posts on this board), should probably say, "There, but for the grace of God, go I." Because most all of us have driven drunk at one time or another.