Remember when WE had to put up w/****** posts like this

[Indndawg]

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• <span class="profilelink">olemissgurl</span>
• Ole Miss Trainer
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Posted: Today10:38AM</p><h4>Booing the players and coaches</h4>_________________________________________________<div class="messagebody">Just
wanted to put this out there for all of you that booed the team and
coaches Saturday. On behalf of their families, that have done without
them for meals and such, we thank you. While you were sitting in your
air conditioned offices last week, they were in the heat practicing for
Saturday so they could go out and lose. That was their intent, to lose
the game so you could boo them. We thank you for that. For all of us
moms that worry about their children dropping from the heat they have
gone through during camp and over the last few weeks, thank you for all
of us moms. We appreciate that you appreciate how hard they have
worked. While you were sleeping in your bed many mornings, my son and
his teammates were at the IPF at 5:30 a.m. getting ready to run and then
my son many times had a pharmacy test he had to take at 7:30 that same
morning. I thank you for supporting him Saturday. You don't think they
heard your boos??? How would you feel if that were you out there and
the game was not going like you wanted it to? You all act like they
like losing and think it is nothing. Do you really know what it is like
to try to cheer up your child when they have put so much into a week of
practice and then lose the game?? I mean really-how is all that booing
working for you? Does it make you feel better?? I wish you would stay
home if that is how you support the team. I sat there Saturday and left
that game feeling awful. Not as much because we lost, but knowing what
all the fans would say about the coaches and players. Knowing that you
had booed my son and his teammates. Then knowing, I would have to try
to make him feel better when nothing could. Seems to me, you should
cheer for these kids and try to support them. You don't think they know
how bad it is? Well they do and they are practicing their tails off to
try and improve. But then, I guess they want to sit home Christmas
with their families more than going to a great bowl game. Think about
it for a moment!!

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[Indndawg]

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• <span class="profilelink">olemissgurl</span>
• Ole Miss Trainer
• 155 posts this site

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Posted: Today10:38AM</p><h4>Booing the players and coaches</h4>_________________________________________________<div class="messagebody">Just
wanted to put this out there for all of you that booed the team and
coaches Saturday. On behalf of their families, that have done without
them for meals and such, we thank you. While you were sitting in your
air conditioned offices last week, they were in the heat practicing for
Saturday so they could go out and lose. That was their intent, to lose
the game so you could boo them. We thank you for that. For all of us
moms that worry about their children dropping from the heat they have
gone through during camp and over the last few weeks, thank you for all
of us moms. We appreciate that you appreciate how hard they have
worked. While you were sleeping in your bed many mornings, my son and
his teammates were at the IPF at 5:30 a.m. getting ready to run and then
my son many times had a pharmacy test he had to take at 7:30 that same
morning. I thank you for supporting him Saturday. You don't think they
heard your boos??? How would you feel if that were you out there and
the game was not going like you wanted it to? You all act like they
like losing and think it is nothing. Do you really know what it is like
to try to cheer up your child when they have put so much into a week of
practice and then lose the game?? I mean really-how is all that booing
working for you? Does it make you feel better?? I wish you would stay
home if that is how you support the team. I sat there Saturday and left
that game feeling awful. Not as much because we lost, but knowing what
all the fans would say about the coaches and players. Knowing that you
had booed my son and his teammates. Then knowing, I would have to try
to make him feel better when nothing could. Seems to me, you should
cheer for these kids and try to support them. You don't think they know
how bad it is? Well they do and they are practicing their tails off to
try and improve. But then, I guess they want to sit home Christmas
with their families more than going to a great bowl game. Think about
it for a moment!!

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[Sutterkane]

If you put up with the parking, the crowds, the overpriced concessions, the price of a ticket, and donate to the athletic club, you can yell whatever the hell you want to at the finished product. The money that you spend goes to funding that IPF facility, the coaches to lead their "kids" to success, and towards the "kids" scholarships to play a game while getting an education.

 

[Indndawg]

I had to work my *** off during and after college to pay for. Nothing free. These "kids" get free tuition, board, and rooms and most of us wasn't quite that fortunate

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Our sheeple who were saying all this didn't have any relatives on the team.

 

[Todd4State]

that being mediocre was the wrong attitude to have. To me, if you get your brains in, then no, you didn't work hard enough.

I as a fan may not have to get up at 5 AM and run and then take a pharmacy test. But, it's not like I don't make sacrifices. It's not just the thousands of dollars that I spend on MSU, it's the time that I sacrifice to follow my team- and I go to almost all home and some away games- including places like Ruston and Baton Rouge. To go to our game against Auburn on a very inconveniently scheduled Thursday night, I had to get to work at 6:30, sacrifice my lunch break AND then after getting home around 1:45 AM, I had to be at work AGAIN at 6:30 so that I didn't have to use personal time. And let's be honest here- it would be REAL easy to be an Alabama fan right now, or whoever is the "hot" team at the time. At least I'm supporting the school that I attended, and the state that I live in.

(I know that we're talking Ole Miss here, and I am satisfied overall with MSU football for now in general)

This person makes it sound like all the football players do is get abused. Uh....guess which one of us has an opportunity to make millions of dollars as well as fame? Guess which one of us will have connections after school to get a great job because "they played at __"? Guess which one of us has hot women flocking to them while on campus- if it was me, I sure as hell missed it. Guess who gets free tutoring and a the first opportunity to make their schedule out before any of the other students? I'm not saying that football players have it easy- I know that they don't, but it's ridiculous to assert that they have this horrible life and that it's all sacrifice.

It's also ridiculous to assert that fans boo their team to be mean. Really, the opposite is true. They boo because they expect better. I mean, I could dog cuss someone on sixpack for the hell of it and save myself a lot of time and money if all that I wanted to do was boo for the sake of booing.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

..for why sixpackspeak.com was created in this first place: To get away from ridiculous mess like this.


Back when genespage was the only board available for State fans, you had to put up with this sort of ******** constantly.


Somebody needs to tell this parent that considering the crap life is going to dish out to precious little Billy once he leaves the Ole Miss football program & enters the real world, when little Billy is 40, he'll agree getting booed on Saturdays when he was 19 was some of the best times in his life.

 

[ckDOG]

is the argument that it gives a bad impression on the recruits that are visiting. But then again, a great counter-argument to that point is the product on the field causing said booing is likely making an equally bad, if not worse, impression.

That being said, maybe the anti-booing crowd should just consider it life lessons for these kids. Sometimes it doesn't matter how hard you try - there's always going to be a person or two that will try to bring you down or rub it in your face when you mess up. They might as well get used to it. Plus, if you can't take the highs and lows of being a college athlete on a big stage, then maybe you should drop down to NAIA level. Booing is just part of the territory in high-profile sports. Sure, I might not have thousands of people waiting to boo me when I mess up at my job, but I don't have 50k+ ready to applaud me when I do a great job either.

 

[Thick]

a better job.

 

[HamilReb]

I hope your not serious with that?

If you are, thats a pretty ****** thing to say. Sounds to me like the guy is busting his *** to be at the games.

 

[Indndawg]

good post

 

[Todd4State]

Trust me, I am very blessed to have the job that I do. And also believe me, I wouldn't bust my *** to get to the football games if I really didn't want to. The hassle is worth it for me. The funny thing is- it's my co-workers that think I'm crazy for going to those games.

Football was meant to be played on Sat. Not Thursday. Thursday game are a pain in the ***, bottom line. I'll still go to them, but they suck.

 

[coastdawg228]

They are getting PAID to be on that field if they are under scholarship. I get PAID to go to class (as I have a scholarship) as well as to go to my part time job. If I screw up my job/my classes the way MSU and OM players have screwed up their jobs, boo the hell out of me. It's ridiculous to say we are expected to cheer for any sort of success, but be silent at best when we throw pick after pick or continuously lose in the second half of the game. Insanity, and thank God for SPS.

 

[thatsbaseball]

nm

 

[MSUDawg25]

Yeah, but there is a difference in not trying hard and not being very good. Take a guy like Tyson Lee. It has been said many times that it wasn't his fault he sucked. It was the coaches fault that he was put in that situation. On the other hand, a guy like Dontae Walker who had all the talent, physical tools, and opportunities, but screwed it up by not staying in shape and not giving it all he had. I think Dontae was the last time I booed a player.

 

[Spotdawg]

we figured out what the "rate of pay" was for a scholarship football athlete when I was in school. It rounded out to about $.28 per hour.

I am not taking one side or the other, but I would certainly NOT work for $.28 per hour. Just to say, that the paid athletes argument is shallow.

 

[Todd4State]

Walk-ons are guys that want to be on the team, and a lot of them are good enough to play D-II, III, or NAIA, but they WANT to be on our team. It's hard to get upset at players like that.

 

[TUSK.sixpack]

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[coastdawg228]

Walk-ons are guys that want to be on the team, and a lot of them are good enough to play D-II, III, or NAIA, but they WANT to be on our team. It's hard to get upset at players like that.

Clearly a walk-on isn't getting paid to play football, therefor it would not be his <span style="font-weight: bold;">job</span> to win football games. Tyson was like a volunteer blood drive worker.

 

[coastdawg228]

we figured out what the "rate of pay" was for a scholarship football athlete when I was in school. It rounded out to about $.28 per hour.

I am not taking one side or the other, but I would certainly NOT work for $.28 per hour. Just to say, that the paid athletes argument is shallow.

 

[LewisNixon]

or get a little more thick skinned.

And no, I cannot believe I am responding to a MTH post. I blame the full moon or the end of the federal fiscal year or something.

 

[patdog]

it works out to more like $20 per hour. It costs about $20,000 per year for tuition, fees, room and board at a public university in the USA. The NCAA limits you to 20 hours per week, or 1,000 hours per year. </p>

 

[MSUDawg25]

My point still applies to scholarship players who were brought in by a coach, but simply don't have the physical attributes to be playing SEC football. They may be giving it their all, but their all is not enough. Basically replace Tyson Lee with Dylan Favre in my previous example.

 

[Spotdawg]

would think that. Pre-breakfast meetings,morning treatments, morning meetings, lunch huddles, pre practice tapings and fittings, post practice treatments, Dinner at 9 pm, post dinner meetings. outta town at 2 on Friday and back at 2 or 3 in the morning on Sunday. Oh, let's not forget that treatment starts again at 8 am Sunday. Film, gameplan installation, position meetings.....there's more.....

Yes, I know that the NCAA limits you to 20 hours per week of practice.

 

[Cowbell34]

Did her son really have a pharmacy exam? If he did he probably does not play and is probably the 4th string punter...

 

[perch0]

What would happen if the players gathered together at the next game and booed the fans?

 

[patdog]

about 1,500 hours per week of pre-breakfast meetings, etc. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's not happening. $20 per hour may be a little high, but it's in the ballpark. $0.28 per hour isn't even close to being on the chart.

 

[Thick]

on the Spirit board gobbling up Yancy's drivel.

 

[Thick]

nm

 

[ckDOG]

Your estimate is a huge understatement.

 

[Todd4State]

nm

 

[Spotdawg]

reread my original post. "When I was in school" is a key phrase. Without exposing how long ago that was, I think that you can do that math.

Granted, that was before the NCAA dived into the pool of limiting practice hours. And yes our math was correct.

If any of you were to shadow even a current FB scholarship athlete for a couple of weeks, I think you might change your mind about the rate of pay.

 

[Johnson85]

Can't remember where I read it (some article), but the person doing the calculation sketched out their assumptions and they passed the smell test. This was when minimum wage was still five dollars and change, so the author may have fiddled with the assumptions to get it just below minimum wage, but it passed the smell test.

When I was in school, players definitely could have done better money wise working as a bar tender (ignoring the under the table monetary benefits, connections you make, and the crazy boy band ***).Definitely not a good deal financially for the mediocre players that are getting by with a 2.2 in underwater basket weaving instead of getting a meaningful degree and meaningful work experience; of course the more likely alternative forthe players this applies to is probably just not going to college and not getting meaningful work experience.

</p>

 

[patdog]

nm

 

[DerHntr]

it'll be fun to go through the yearbook trying to figure out which of the thousands of people you are

/sarcasm

 

[FISHDAWG]

I've never had a problem with anyone booing ole miss

 

[RebelBruiser]

If the players didn't want that type of pressure, they should've played at Millsaps. The reason they come to an SEC school is that it's the highest level, which means more pressure. When 50,000+ people pay to come see you play, you no longer get free passes and pats on the back when you don't do well.

 

[MeridianDog]

is pull her baby off the frigging team and pay his way through four years of college then pharmacy school.

That would teach those Booers a thing or two.

If I screw up my job I catch hell from my boss. If we put out bad products, I have to call pissed off customers and explain how and why we let them down.

Maybe her baby should catch a little hell form unhappy customers, too.

 

[GloryDawg]

The bottom line is they are going to school for free and they get to play a game they like to play while doing it. It's not work, it a game. Yes you have to work hard to be good at it but it is not a job.