Renardo article

[esplanade91]

Seems like one of these pops up once a year now saying the exact same thing. This time he appears to show an ounce of remorse for his time in Starkville, but then turns around and blaims his output on the fans.

http://wp.me/p1aWjM-2aXP

What a POS.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

He didn't really 100% blame it on the fans. He just said that reading all the negative stuff people were saying about him was hard. I think he knew the real problem in Renardo's life was Renardo. His father shopping him out from age 14 didn't help either. His father is the real POS here.

 

[tenureplan]

memory lane

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/show...-Renardo-Sidney-(long)&highlight=dear+renardo

 

[esplanade91]

Agreed. But what I took from a redemption article is that it's still everyone else's fault. He's yet to fully take personal responsibility for his actions, and I can't get over that.

As a human being I hope he turns the corner. Sports fans have a hard time disassociating on-the-court and off-the-court, and outside of basketball for all we know the guy could be a great guy, just misunderstood. But in this case Renardo doesn't deserve to ever touch the hardwood ever again. He's lighting up minor league teams but he's still 300 lbs and out of shape. I don't feel sorry for him.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

he does have a point. the marshmallows were to blame too though.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

Great quote from Renardo: “You’ve got to stay humble and stay hungry,”

So staying humble was the problem...

 

[MrCopperpot]

I honestly do feel bad about what happened to his daughter but as for the rest of it, I hope his ****** heals soon.

 

[DerHntr]

Great quote from Renardo: “You’ve got to stay humble and stay hungry,”

So staying humble was the problem...

What's funny is he said he wished someone had told him that growing up and while in college. I guarantee you he was told many times over in multiple ways to stay humble and to work his *** off.

 

[Seinfeld]

I don't doubt that, but I'd also be willing to bet a sizable amount that there isn't a poster on this board that went through anything close to what Sidney did from the time that he turned 14. If I made a C on a test, I was grounded. If Sidney did the same, it was probably something along the lines of "Don't sweat it, stud. I got somebody that'll take care of that." If I didn't feel like practicing even in church league ball, I didn't play. With Sid, who cares? He could show up 30 seconds before the game with a half eaten Big Mac and still be better than anyone on the court.

People can judge the hell out of him, but when you have folks giving you free passes all your life along with parents who aren't doing much other than trying to figure out the best way to make a dime off of their own kid, I don't know what people expect him to act like when he shows up to college. I'm sure he did have coaches telling him to get his act together, but he never had to before, so why now?

I don't know... to each his own and all that, but when there's a story out there about a kid trying to turn an experience of a stillborn child into something positive in his life, I don't know how some people can read that and want to turn into something negative.

 

[The Peeper]

Yaaaaaaawn, still lazy after all of these years. Seinfeld, I agree to a point. BUT he's not an 8th grader anymore not turning in his homework. He's a guy that's seen himself fail time and time again for the same reason and he showed up for his latest and possibly last chance out of shape and still 300 lbs plus? At some point it ceases to stop being his dads fault, the AAU's fault, Stans fault, its sitting squarely on him now and in my opinion has since his his last minute of playing time ran out at MSU.

 

[Seinfeld]

According to the tail end of the article, after being 340 lb at one point, he lost 35 prior to his tryout and now he's lost another 15 to get down to 290. It then goes on to say that his goal is to get to 275 and while he did indeed get cut for not having his "basketball wind", it's going to take a lot more than weight loss for him to get all the way back.

Anyway, he clearly isn't where he needs to be yet in order to play pro ball, but guys like him don't drop 50 lb by being lazy. The article also mentioned that the NBL coach that cut him had nothing but positive things to say about his character which is a far cry from what people were saying back in his MSU days.

Oh well, I may be alone and naive, but I'm pulling for the guy

 

[FirstPoetsThenSunDoggy]

According to the tail end of the article, after being 340 lb at one point, he lost 35 prior to his tryout and now he's lost another 15 to get down to 290. It then goes on to say that his goal is to get to 275 and while he did indeed get cut for not having his "basketball wind", it's going to take a lot more than weight loss for him to get all the way back.

Anyway, he clearly isn't where he needs to be yet in order to play pro ball, but guys like him don't drop 50 lb by being lazy. The article also mentioned that the NBL coach that cut him had nothing but positive things to say about his character which is a far cry from what people were saying back in his MSU days.

Oh well, I may be alone and naive, but I'm pulling for the guy

I'm with you. Blaming our demise on him is ridiculous.

 

[OldFatDog]

According to the tail end of the article, after being 340 lb at one point, he lost 35 prior to his tryout and now he's lost another 15 to get down to 290. It then goes on to say that his goal is to get to 275 and while he did indeed get cut for not having his "basketball wind", it's going to take a lot more than weight loss for him to get all the way back.

Anyway, he clearly isn't where he needs to be yet in order to play pro ball, but guys like him don't drop 50 lb by being lazy. The article also mentioned that the NBL coach that cut him had nothing but positive things to say about his character which is a far cry from what people were saying back in his MSU days.

Oh well, I may be alone and naive, but I'm pulling for the guy

You're not alone. I'm pulling for him also. It's hard for me to grasp how anybody could not be pulling for him.

 

[paindonthurt_]

yeah we can't blame our demise on him any more than he can blame his demise on anyone else but himself.

 

[DerHntr]

I don't doubt that, but I'd also be willing to bet a sizable amount that there isn't a poster on this board that went through anything close to what Sidney did from the time that he turned 14. If I made a C on a test, I was grounded. If Sidney did the same, it was probably something along the lines of "Don't sweat it, stud. I got somebody that'll take care of that." If I didn't feel like practicing even in church league ball, I didn't play. With Sid, who cares? He could show up 30 seconds before the game with a half eaten Big Mac and still be better than anyone on the court.

People can judge the hell out of him, but when you have folks giving you free passes all your life along with parents who aren't doing much other than trying to figure out the best way to make a dime off of their own kid, I don't know what people expect him to act like when he shows up to college. I'm sure he did have coaches telling him to get his act together, but he never had to before, so why now?

I don't know... to each his own and all that, but when there's a story out there about a kid trying to turn an experience of a stillborn child into something positive in his life, I don't know how some people can read that and want to turn into something negative.

I just think he isn't being honest with himself if he believes no one told him to stay humble and be hungry. This is a symptom of his overall problem.

I admit I am not rooting for him. Why would I? I am also not rooting against him. Again, why would I?

I simply don't care.

 

[esplanade91]

I just think he isn't being honest with himself if he believes no one told him to stay humble and be hungry. This is a symptom of his overall problem.

I admit I am not rooting for him. Why would I? I am also not rooting against him. Again, why would I?

I simply don't care.

Put me in this boat.

He wasn't the cause of our demise, but his attitude was a contributing factor, as was Bost's, Ravern's, Kodi's....

Still has that attitude, and again, I don't feel bad for him.

 

[patdog]

I'm right there with you Der.

 

[mstateglfr]

He doesn’t show an ounce of remorse? Perhaps its because unlike you and many here, he doesn’t see his history as that of a criminal who needs to show remorse.
You expect him to show remorse? For what?- for not living up to internet message board expectations? Good luck with that approach in life- you will be constantly disappointed if you hold everyone to this sort of demand.


Throughout that article, Sidney admitted that he was immature, coasted, didn’t work hard enough, etc. He clearly holds the view that what he did was not good enough to get what he(and we) wanted. He clearly wishes it had been different.
Yet you complain he doesn’t show remorse.


I was disgusted and annoyed as much as anyone on here when he played for us. Sidney was a total waste of talent at MSU. But like Todd Marinovich once said- its his talent to waste, not yours.
Just because Sidney wasn’t mature enough or was too self-absorbed to listen to those wanting to help him back 3-6 years ago doesn’t mean he is some POS lowlife undeserving of opportunity and change. This isnt some violent criminal here- it’s a guy working thru maturity and self-responsibility issues.

And where the 17 do you get that he blamed the fans for his output? Is that because he said he read what people would write about him and take it to heart? Well ****, how dare he be self-conscious and lack confidence!
He wasn’t blaming the fans for all that went down while at MSU- he referenced words written/spoken about him as one of many many many things that he didn’t deal with well while at MSU. You took something that he obviously thinks is only a part of the overall story and claimed it was all of the story.

Hate him all you want, but get some better reading comprehension skills.






…as someone who has lost a child shortly after birth, it was tough to read his daughter was stillborn. That certainly explains some of why he was under the radar last summer. Awful to hear. It can be a hell of an event to move on from physically and emotionally. But I am sure you just saw that as another example of him blaming others for where he is.

 

[Seinfeld]

I just think he isn't being honest with himself if he believes no one told him to stay humble and be hungry. This is a symptom of his overall problem.

You're probably right about that, but I'd also bet that for every person that he did have telling him to stay humble, he had a half dozen more telling him to 17 MSU and the coaches and that he didn't need that BS. It doesn't excuse him for how he handled things, but again... it's just a world that most of us can't really even begin to comprehend.

As far as the rooting part goes, I completely understand folks like yourself simply not caring. What I don't understand, however, is how other people can read that article and want to nothing but crucify him. The guy screwed up and while he did make one quote that I guess could be construed as still blaming others, he made about five or six others that blamed no one but himself for getting caught up in the hollywood chaos.

Anyway, being a still fairly new parent, I guess I just have a soft spot for anyone that loses a child and is working to do something great about it. That's really what I'm rooting for moreso than Sidney himself.

 

[esplanade91]

Did you miss the part where I said for all we know his off-the-court self is probably different than the on-the-court Sidney? Of course not.

This is about the 3rd article I've read about Sidney post-MSU, and they've ALL said the same thing. First it was he just needs an opportunity, so he took the D-Fenders gig, then he got cut, then it's "my pops was a POS and I need to get in shape", and now, I don't take it lightly and I genuinely feel for him, it's his daughter.

It's always a "I'm motivated and I'm going to do it" and then he never does it. He just got cut by a Canadian development league team for only being able to play 3 minutes at a time.

I'm not cheering against him. I'm certainly not cheering for him. I don't give a **** what Renardo chooses to do, but he doesn't deserve to get paid to play basketball. I sympathize with him over the loss of his daughter, and I hope he lives out the rest of his days in peace and with a sense of fulfillment. But I'm not going to feel sorry for a grown man who's stood in the way of himself being an NBA All-Star. I'm sure a lot of current NBA players had it worse than Sidney. Heck, I know.