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No that wasn’t my point. My point was that CDC was trying to use this study to justify their masking mandate by saying it spread like crazy but the interesting part was that their were 0 deaths. 0 deaths was my point among vaccinated and unvaccinated. Yet we are masking like crazy and considering more lockdowns. I got the vaccine but was hesitant and at times still question my decision. Ultimately I believe each individual should be given choice to do what is best for them based on their research and unique situation..whether that is masking in schools, public , or vaccinations.
You do realize there are very likely to be long term and potentially lifelong health complications from having COVID, right? It’s not always just about deaths.
 
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Lol

Go ahead. There was nothing in that tweet from Axios that was correct. But confirmation bias a helluva drug.

Any real data is banned from Twitter, You Tube, Facebook (Facebook just got caught).

Just stick to your aliens.
I think you should stick to your lizard people who rule the world and chemtrails.
 
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Oh there’s people who care. Their politics is a religion to them. They have the same reaction as Muslims do when people reject their views. They want this **** to keep on going. They hate those who do not bow.
But your decision on vaxxing shouldn't be based on whether others want you to bow to them or not. And being vaxxed doesn't mean you bowed. It means you made a wise decision.
 
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You do realize there are very likely to be long term and potentially lifelong health complications from having COVID, right? It’s not always just about deaths.
Don't know what very likely means to you, but it would be at least 75% for me. I strongly doubt that.
 
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You do realize there are very likely to be long term and potentially lifelong health complications from having COVID, right? It’s not always just about deaths.

I have an anti-vaxx, anti mask aunt who attended the rally in Frankfort where they hung Beshear in effigy.

She got COVID last July at a church gathering and was hospitalized for 11 days, including 5 days on a vent.

She still can’t taste anything, had vertigo for about two months and will need assistance from an oxygen tank for the rest of her life. I don’t feel sorry for her. She weighed her risks and made her own choices cuz freedom.
 

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I have an anti-vaxx, anti mask aunt who attended the rally in Frankfort where they hung Beshear in effigy.

She got COVID last July at a church gathering and was hospitalized for 11 days, including 5 days on a vent.

She still can’t taste anything, had vertigo for about two months and will need assistance from an oxygen tank for the rest of her life. I don’t feel sorry for her. She weighed her risks and made her own choices cuz freedom.
How dare her? Everyone should do as you say....
 

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How dare her? Everyone should do as you say....

Nah. She made her own decisions based on her political beliefs and paid the price for said decision. I didn’t tell her to do or not to do anything. My dad is one of 12 kids. This is his third youngest sister. I only talk to her at holidays. I usually don’t offer my relatives medical advice given that I’m not a doctor.

I just don’t feel sorry for her. The same way I don’t feel sorry for people who hit trees at 100 mph without seat belts. Risks were known.
 
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Nah. She made her own decisions based on her political beliefs and paid the price for said decision. I didn’t tell her to do or not to do anything.

I just don’t feel sorry for her. The same way I don’t feel sorry for people who hit trees at 100 mph without seat belts. Risks were known.
Good to know...another compassionless lib who only cares about those who see things the way they do
 

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I have an anti-vaxx, anti mask aunt who attended the rally in Frankfort where they hung Beshear in effigy.

She got COVID last July at a church gathering and was hospitalized for 11 days, including 5 days on a vent.

She still can’t taste anything, had vertigo for about two months and will need assistance from an oxygen tank for the rest of her life. I don’t feel sorry for her. She weighed her risks and made her own choices cuz freedom.
Personal accountability. Her decision didn't have any effect over your life or mine. That's a good thing for society. Why can't liberals understand this?
 

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Personal accountability. Her decision didn't have any effect over your life or mine. That's a good thing for society. Why can't liberals understand this?

Yeah. It just affected her single parent family, including 2 kids under age 7, because she exhausted her paid leave, FMLA leave and ended up losing her job. Now she’s on welfare, according to my dad.

Totally the liberals’ fault for forcing her to take zero precautions while believing the virus that damn near killed her was a hoax to make Trump look bad. She was one of those idiots.

Sounds like you might be one too
 

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Good to know...another compassionless lib who only cares about those who see things the way they do

If you told me 60 times the stove was hot and not to touch it because it would burn me, but I said “nah, that’s fake news,” touched it anyway and got burned, would you feel sorry for me?

Of course you wouldn’t.
 
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If you told me 60 times the stove was hot and not to touch it because it would burn me, but I said “nah, that’s fake news,” touched it anyway and got burned, would you feel sorry for me?

Of course you wouldn’t.
People are dying from the vaccines. People are having serious side affects from the vaccines.

But because you hate Trump above all else, you don't care that someone in your family is sick.

Good grief. I don't understand what has happened to people. No compassion for human life anymore. No respect for others.

Just, my view is the only view, and if you don't see it my way, I don't care what happens to you.
 

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Yeah. It just affected her single parent family, including 2 kids under age 7, because she exhausted her paid leave, FMLA leave and ended up losing her job. Now she’s on welfare, according to my dad.

Totally the liberals’ fault for forcing her to take zero precautions while believing the virus that damn near killed her was a hoax to make Trump look bad. She was one of those idiots.

Sounds like you might be one too
I took the vaccine. I almost didn't due to the reaction that paralyzed me from, we think, the mmr vaccine as a kid. I'm no idiot. You seem to be with blaming trump still. Nobody should be forced to take this vaccine.
 

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People are dying from the vaccines. People are having serious side affects from the vaccines.

But because you hate Trump above all else, you don't care that someone in your family is sick.

Good grief. I don't understand what has happened to people. No compassion for human life anymore. No respect for others.

Just, my view is the only view, and if you don't see it my way, I don't care what happens to you.

1. Roughly 6000 deaths out of of 165M vaccinated = 0.00003 percent. You and I are statistically more like to be struck by lightning twice than we are to die from the Covid vaccine. I’ll take those odds.

2. Again, a tiny percentage. Outliers don’t scare me. If they did I’d never fly in a plane again.

3. Stupid games, stupid prizes.

Isn’t that what conservatives like to say when some dumbass lib does something stupid and winds up dead or severely injured? My aunt won a stupid prize in the form of an oxygen tank.

Political leanings aren’t why I don’t feel sorry for my aunt. Of dad and his 11 siblings, 6 are Dems and 6 are Republicans. All 6 Dems and 5/6 Republican siblings took all the precautions, wore masks, got vaxxed, limited exposure to others, etc. My aunt and her GED education decided she was either smarter than experts or was going to make an epic political statement to own the libs and RINOs and ended up getting got. I pitty her for being ignorant, but don’t feel sorry for her because she could’ve avoided her predicament by making better personal decisions. Personal responsibility and all.
 
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1. Roughly 6000 deaths out of of 165M vaccinated = 0.00003 percent.

It's much, much lower than that.

“FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.”

You expect some number to die shortly after ANY event you choose. Something like 8000 people die every day. Some of them will happen to have just been vaccinated. You can count on one hand how many deaths have actually been linked to vaccination.
 

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1. Roughly 6000 deaths out of of 165M vaccinated = 0.00003 percent. You and I are statistically more like to be struck by lightning twice than we are to die from the Covid vaccine. I’ll take those odds.

2. Again, a tiny percentage. Outliers don’t scare me. If they did I’d never fly in a plane again.

3. Stupid games, stupid prizes.

Isn’t that what conservatives like to say when some dumbass lib does something stupid and winds up dead or severely injured? My aunt won a stupid prize in the form of an oxygen tank.

Political leanings aren’t why I don’t feel sorry for my aunt. Of dad and his 11 siblings, 6 are Dems and 6 are Republicans. All 6 Dems and 5/6 Republican siblings took all the precautions, wore masks, got vaxxed, limited exposure to others, etc. My aunt and her GED education decided she was either smarter than experts or was going to make an epic political statement to own the libs and RINOs and ended up getting got. I pitty her for being ignorant, but don’t feel sorry for her because she could’ve avoided her predicament by making better personal decisions. Personal responsibility and all

 
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Couple of comments:

1. You can get this delta strain even if you are vaccinated, but still recommend that people get vaccinated
2. You don’t want to get this virus.
 
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You do realize there are very likely to be long term and potentially lifelong health complications from having COVID, right? It’s not always just about deaths.
I actually did not realize that, because the vast majority of people that I know who were infected recovered quickly, with no complications at all, and, more importantly than anecdotal evidence is the fact that the actual medical data supports my anecdotal evidence. But carry on with the Feigl-Ding propaganda.
 

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99% is a risk I would take for just about any action I do on this planet. But for some reason put COVID in front of 99% and we are told to hide in a cave and shut down the U.S. economy.

Well a couple of states are not that stupid and it would be nice to see other governors step up and tell Biden they do not give a flip what he has to say on the subject.
 
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99% is a risk I would take for just about any action I do on this planet. But for some reason put COVID in front of 99% and we are told to hide in a cave and shut down the U.S. economy.

Well a couple of states are not that stupid and it would be nice to see other governors step up and tell Biden they do not give a flip what he has to say on the subject.
Would you go to a game at Rupp if you knew 200 people would be killed in a shooting on the way out, with hundreds more injured and hospitalized?
 

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Not vaxxed and somehow still alive. Why do you care about others personal choices? Fat people cost us billions every year. Smokers cost us billions every year. I don’t hear you telling people to exercise and eat right. That’s been going on for decades.
Well there are places where they will be restricting/banning bacon. I mean, damn. Bacon! We can legalize marijuana, alcohol, tobacco but we ban bacon? I mean WTF. What am I supposed to have with my eggs every morning? Tofu and eggs just doesn't slide right off the tongue. Being somewhat facetious but it does seem like Big Brother is slowly but surely trying to control more and more of our thoughts, actions, economic activity, beliefs, etc.

On a similar note, I just flew to a business meeting. And every single person (white, black, Hispanic, Asian, transgender, gay, straight, tall, fat, skinny, etc.) had to show a picture ID to board the plane. But it's racist to require one for voting? BTW, have to show picture ID to buy alcohol, pick up tickets for a ballgame as Will Call and many, many other mundane tasks. But Big Brother wants us to believe that showing an ID to vote is somehow racist.
 

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Nah. She made her own decisions based on her political beliefs and paid the price for said decision. I didn’t tell her to do or not to do anything. My dad is one of 12 kids. This is his third youngest sister. I only talk to her at holidays. I usually don’t offer my relatives medical advice given that I’m not a doctor.

I just don’t feel sorry for her. The same way I don’t feel sorry for people who hit trees at 100 mph without seat belts. Risks were known.
Plenty of people have died from the vaccine cause of consuming fear porn.

I’d say your aunt’s health had more to do with it than just “covid.” Plenty of people have got it and had no issue. But that doesn’t get the same media coverage.
 
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Would you go to a game at Rupp if you knew 200 people would be killed in a shooting on the way out, with hundreds more injured and hospitalized?

Upper or lower arena? Who are we playing?

In all seriousness that’s a horrible analogy.. You can’t equate defending and utilizing normal, everyday liberties to going to a basketball game. Yes, I would take my 99% chance if the alternative is living under authoritarianism. So a better question would be, would you go to Rupp in the event 200 are murdered with the alternative being you now lose basic liberties.

The answer is yes. I would risk death to nearly 100% if the alternative is we are no longer free.
 
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Upper or lower arena? Who are we playing?

In all seriousness that’s a horrible analogy.. You can’t equate defending and utilizing normal, everyday liberties to going to a basketball game. Yes, I would take my 99% chance if the alternative is living under authoritarianism. So a better question would be, would you go to Rupp in the event 200 are murdered with the alternative being you now lose basic liberties.

The answer is yes. I would risk death to nearly 100% if the alternative is we are no longer free.

I'm not talking about imposing anything, that's you changing the conversation. Someone said "99% is a risk I would take for just about any action I do on this planet." I was just putting into context what 1% really means.
 

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I'm not talking about imposing anything, that's you changing the conversation. Someone said "99% is a risk I would take for just about any action I do on this planet." I was just putting into context what 1% really means.

It’s difficult to give full context without giving the other consequence of a choice. If you framed my question against yours, as is the case in the real world of COVID authoritarianism, the answers would differ significantly.

That’s what it boils down to. Take your 99% chance or turn the Western world upside down. Easy choice. For most at least…
 

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Well there are places where they will be restricting/banning bacon. I mean, damn. Bacon! We can legalize marijuana, alcohol, tobacco but we ban bacon? I mean WTF. What am I supposed to have with my eggs every morning? Tofu and eggs just doesn't slide right off the tongue. Being somewhat facetious but it does seem like Big Brother is slowly but surely trying to control more and more of our thoughts, actions, economic activity, beliefs, etc.

On a similar note, I just flew to a business meeting. And every single person (white, black, Hispanic, Asian, transgender, gay, straight, tall, fat, skinny, etc.) had to show a picture ID to board the plane. But it's racist to require one for voting? BTW, have to show picture ID to buy alcohol, pick up tickets for a ballgame as Will Call and many, many other mundane tasks. But Big Brother wants us to believe that showing an ID to vote is somehow racist.
Your post will go over many heads, but it’s a good one.
 

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Seems like the people who always scream about covid being overblown and having over a 99% survival rate are also the same people who constantly bring up that some have died after receiving the vaccine, even though a VAST majority are fine afterward and don't die. It's like in one breath some are arguing the virus is no biggie at all and a minute later arguing that what's actually dangerous are the vaccines. You're doing the same thing you accuse others of doing: fear porn. Keep at it though guys. Maybe you'll convince someone here to not take the vaccine. That seems to be the goal for a few of you for some bizarre reason.