Point taken Ramblin, but I suppose my stance on the sports is still similar to school. We won't know unless we do it and not take away some VERY important time of our youth. At what point do you say we do it? That question is still relevant for everything else we are doing. Vaccine? Under a certain amount of deaths? Cases? When the president or CDC says so? My concern is that no matter what, no matter when, we will have all states and areas with people testing positive and some in the hospital. If it never ends, when do we end this way of living?
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"My concern is that no matter what, no matter when, we will have all states and areas with people testing positive and some in the hospital. If it never ends, when do we end this way of living? "
I've yet to see anyone answer this question.
I've yet to see anyone answer this question.
We all know the answer but those in power don't want the blood on their hands.
Look, you aren't going to be able to get what you want this fall. Even if we stopped running from this thing at the school sports level, SO many kids will catch this virus that it will render the season unplayable. Many smaller teams will be forfeiting games left and right because they will have too many kids infected and in a quarantine situation. As I mentioned weeks ago, there won't be enough healthy officials (many of whom are in the later stages of middle age or are senior citizens) to begin with. Wanting it to happen is not enough to make it happen.
There are too many unknowns, and the virus is spreading so quickly, to be taking unnecessary risks at this stage of the game. Plus, opening back up too soon has come back to haunt those states that didn't have the discipline/desire to continue the restrictions far enough down the downslope of the curve (as the Europeans did) to bring this pandemic under control at sustainable low levels. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Let's learn from our mistakes relative to not having the discipline and fortitude to do battle with this virus intelligently.
I know it sucks, but nobody said life is fair. This thing will run its course or we will learn how to deal with it one way or another. If we know anything about pandemics, we know that much. Unfortunately, we are very early on, and everybody is Jonesin' to have their lives back. I get it. But, it is going to be a while and we simply have to have faith that it won't always be like it is now. In the meantime, it makes sense to respect/avoid this virus, while living our lives as best we can and taking necessary/appropriate risks -- not unnecessary/inappropriate ones.
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I love all the assumptions people are making about how this spreads. Fact. As of yesterday’s count there were 86 people under 20 hospitalized with Covid in Arizona. That’s 86 families anguishing that they may lose a child. The long term implications of the effects of this disease are unknown because it hasn’t been long term. WHO estimated that 75-100% of asymptomatic people will eventually develop at least mild symptoms. As parents do you really want to take these risks? That all your child has worked and trained for all these years could be wiped out with one extremely uninformed decision? Until we have solid, undisputed facts it’s a risk you would all be willing to take?
Absolutely! The risk of under 25 being hospitalized or even dying from this is way less that other things my kids could get hospitalized or die from. Car accidents, flu, lightning strike, drowning, choking, so on and so on have a higher risk of hospitalized or death for this age group then Covid. I would MUCH rather have them partake in sports and school without restrictions then the mental and emotional impacts it could have on them if they didn't.
Hmmm, my Plainfield people didn't mention that to me. Nothing in the NW suburbs to my knowledge. I wonder if it's a push by county/region
I have two Plainfield teachers living directly behind me, they've been surveyed.
It's sad. And there will be more families tomorrow. And the day after. And next month. And in October. And in December. And everyday in 2021. And 2022. It's extremely sad. Have to weigh the risks and live life.
Point is that no one knows if long term implications do or don’t exist, ventilated or not. These kids are sick enough to be hospitalized. NO ONE wants football more than me! But the Ivy League probably has it right by buying themselves 6 more months and looking to hopefully play a spring season while this gets better understood or a vaccine appears.
there is a difference between being hospitalized and being on ventilator in the ICU. Some hospitals may say, we are going to keep you overnight for observation and then release them the next day for various reasons.
Well said. I read the coroner's report from I believe it was July 1st and the damage done to the body not just lungs was eye opening.
Look. I don’t want to get graphic about what they’re finding in the autopsies of Covid patients but the results are scary and previously unseen. Completely changed my views on this. Google it. Then look up how many people are dying at home. Not hospitalized. Including at least one young man with no known pre existing conditions. This is a scary unknown disease.
You’re right about it being scary. People are still having strange symptoms months after recovery. I sure as hell don’t want it.
I’ll be done after this...just let the health professionals/local governing bodies make the decisions, they do it in your best interest. And have the kids KEEP CONDITIONING UP no matter what the decision. Maybe we can play fall 7v7 with far less contact if season gets postponed! That would really help with keeping skills up and recruiting. Enjoy your debate. That’s what this country is about!
The problem I have leaving it up to health professionals and Governing bodies is they aren't consistent with their message. As for 7 on 7's, that's great, unless you're a lineman.
I'm curious how many people on here who say play regardless will have a son (possibly) playing football this fall? If you don't, would having a son at risk change your mind? My son played his last game in 2019 and graduated (well finished - no ceremony yet) in 2020. I still coach many of his friends and have known their families since the boys were about five years old. The boys want to play but I can see it in the parents there is a real fear and uncertainty.
Just saw this and it's probably one of the best posts I have read all year. You couldn't be more right. The truth is going to be learned on November 4th regardless of what happens on November 3rd.
I am no epidemiologist, but I heard recently we are exiting a "pandemic" stage of this because the death rate has declined significantly. Don't know if that is how one judges the definition of pandemic. But it is what I heard.
This is like asking if parents want their kids to play football at all because of the risk and long term effects of concussions.
Not even close - catching a virus is hardly part of the game.
Judging by all the parents sending their kids out of state for travel games the previous two months, I do not think the majority of parents are concerned whose kids already play sports.
Is there any data on those kids? I know a lot of HS kids playing baseball right now and know if no illness.
And there is also an increase in traffic deaths and suicide that could belinked to lockdown effect. As of 2:00pm today in the 15 - 24 age group there have been 6,789 traffic fatalities, 6,252 suicides and about 30 covid related deaths (zero in Illinois) so far this year. But who's counting?
I have more fear about my son when he actually plays football then I have about the COVID-19 virus. It is a risky sport and the risk they take on is one we are willing to accept
So, 90 people under 20 were hospitalized with COVID-19 since February 21, 2020 (when Arizona had their first hospitalization). I am willing to make an educated guess that in 4.5 months that there were more then 90 admissions for other reasons and many more families anguishing for other reasons. Do we just minimize and ignore the pain that those families are feeling now? The percent of COVID cases being hospitalized in Arizona is 5%. I hope they get it under control for everyone's sake there, but what is happening in Arizona right now is not what is happening in Illinois.
No problem, I think that question is at the heart of the issue. As a football parent you weigh the risks of playing a contact sport. So most have already gone through this analysis in their mind. I will say I have talked to football families from several other schools (not just ours) and I have not seen fear and uncertainty at all. I am not saying there isn't anybody with that fear, just that the ones I have talked to, are not afraid. If anything it is fear about the uncertainty of playing football than anything else.
Geez! Those pesky facts! We must not count those deaths if not covid 19? What happened to the flu deaths being reported. They seem to have disappeared from the death charts. Isn't it obvious that as more testing is done more people are being diagnosed with covid. Duh! Who would have thought? Isn't it just as important to look at the fatality rates from covid that are constantly going down. That tidbit is usually left at the end of the media spin on the increase in people testing positive with covid. BTW, how accurate and reliable are the tests being administered and what are the standards invoked within the testing facilities doing the covid testing. I am not making light of this but pretty soon this will not be considered a pandemic.
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teenage driving is a pandemic 10,000 deaths a year. Every year. And now you angry kids with nothing to do.