To me the jury is still out, the Mac is no slouch for a conference he could possibly be a pretty good hire, gotta trust the new dcUnderwhelming hire. Thin resume for the rebuilding project we need. South Dakota? Miami of Ohio? One year at Rutgers? Looks like a hire that was made after our top six candidates said no thanks. Maybe he can bring some of his Miami of Ohio d linemen with him.![]()
I'm fine with an underwhelming hire. I don't give a **** about winning the off-season anymore. We've got to assemble a staff that can recruit, teach and work well together. The fact of the matter is that there are good coaches to be found at all levels. And there are grossly overrated coaches as well.Underwhelming hire. Thin resume for the rebuilding project we need. South Dakota? Miami of Ohio? One year at Rutgers? Looks like a hire that was made after our top six candidates said no thanks. Maybe he can bring some of his Miami of Ohio d linemen with him.![]()
I like the pickup MUCH prefer this to the obese Texan assistant D line coach. We can’t whine that we should have hired Cignetti then ***** about hiring a MAC D line coach. This obviously is a guy our new DC wanted. It isn’t rocket science. Going to be interesting to see how he coaches.Underwhelming hire. Thin resume for the rebuilding project we need. South Dakota? Miami of Ohio? One year at Rutgers? Looks like a hire that was made after our top six candidates said no thanks. Maybe he can bring some of his Miami of Ohio d linemen with him.![]()
This joke is actually spot on. If this guy was our first choice why did it take this long to hire him?Had to wait for Miami (Ohio) to be out of the playoffs
Played at Iowa. Started his senior year. From Houston TX. Grad assistant at Notre Dame when they played in the BCS championship game. 14 years experience. Resume is a little deeper than some think. I think watched some Miami-0 this year. His guys at Miami got after it. IF he can inspire every down intensity from out DTs, he’ll do well.I guess we're putting A LOT of trust in our dc at this point. In a sense it makes sense to have someone he has trust in at dl and edge coaches to mesh with the dc theory and objective
Elijah was clearly our AD’s and maybe Rhule’s first choice. From there, who knows? It’s very common for position coaches to not be named until late January.This joke is actually spot on. If this guy was our first choice why did it take this long to hire him?
And I get that there are good coaches in the MAC. Trust our new DC? Why?? Because trusting our DC has worked out well for us recently?
Maybe he was the first choice of the new DC. I don't know. but assuming he is not, what about this program recent history makes you think that getting our first choice should even be a thing?This joke is actually spot on. If this guy was our first choice why did it take this long to hire him?
Many were claiming the reason for Cig’s success his first year at Indiana was the JMU players he brought - so you never knowUnderwhelming hire. Thin resume for the rebuilding project we need. South Dakota? Miami of Ohio? One year at Rutgers? Looks like a hire that was made after our top six candidates said no thanks. Maybe he can bring some of his Miami of Ohio d linemen with him.![]()
So if they wanted Elijah (and I agree they did) and they were ready to offer him weeks ago, why did it take so long to hire the new guy? Seems they wanted to move quickly but when Elijah said no they were then in scramble mode. The guy we just hired was not our first choice and given how long it took he wasn’t our second, third, or fourth choice either.Elijah was clearly our AD’s and maybe Rhule’s first choice. From there, who knows? It’s very common for position coaches to not be named until late January.
Elijah used Nebraska, his intent was always to go to ATM. As to why it took so long to hire a DL coach I have no idea other than Nebraska probably offered others and were probably turned down or Aurich and Rhule weren't always on the same page about who they wanted. I believe Aurich wanted Brown but had to probably convince Rhule it's who he wanted and after Elijah finished using Nebraska all options were on the table. jmoSo if they wanted Elijah (and I agree they did) and they were ready to offer him weeks ago, why did it take so long to hire the new guy? Seems they wanted to move quickly but when Elijah said no they were then in scramble mode. The guy we just hired was not our first choice and given how long it took he wasn’t our second, third, or fourth choice either.
And traditionally it has been the case that sometimes you don’t hire a position coach until January. But that was pre portal. These days you want your position coaches in place before the portal opens. You certainly don’t wait until halfway through the portal window to hire the position coach for your team’s greatest area of portal need! And not only is defensive tackle our greatest need, it is also the hardest position to recruit to due to the fact that good defensive tackles are the hardest players to find.
Sorry, this hire has another keystone cops look and smell to it. Another late “scramble” to overcome an initial incompetence.
Not a bad analysis!Elijah used Nebraska, his intent was always to go to ATM. As to why it took so long to hire a DL coach I have no idea other than Nebraska probably offered others and were probably turned down or Aurich and Rhule weren't always on the same page about who they wanted. I believe Aurich wanted Brown but had to probably convince Rhule it's who he wanted and after Elijah finished using Nebraska all options were on the table. jmo
The staff was returning from a bowl game less than two weeks ago. Miami's bowl game was Dec. 27.So if they wanted Elijah (and I agree they did) and they were ready to offer him weeks ago, why did it take so long to hire the new guy? Seems they wanted to move quickly but when Elijah said no they were then in scramble mode. The guy we just hired was not our first choice and given how long it took he wasn’t our second, third, or fourth choice either.
And traditionally it has been the case that sometimes you don’t hire a position coach until January. But that was pre portal. These days you want your position coaches in place before the portal opens. You certainly don’t wait until halfway through the portal window to hire the position coach for your team’s greatest area of portal need! And not only is defensive tackle our greatest need, it is also the hardest position to recruit to due to the fact that good defensive tackles are the hardest players to find.
Sorry, this hire has another keystone cops look and smell to it. Another late “scramble” to overcome an initial incompetence.
More like speculation.Not a bad analysis!
Of course it is, just like everyone's that's why I said I don't have any idea why it took so long and I just put my guess on the whole thing just like everyone else. Speculation, analysis it's really just semantics in the end.More like speculation.
Seriously? What did you expect the new DE coach would say? “Hey guys. I have done a quick analysis of our defensive line roster and quite frankly we need to upgrade our talent there. We need to hit the portal and bring in better players.” Of course he isn’t going to say that or even imply it in subtle ways. Nor should he. He said what a new coach should say, even if he knows in his heart that he needs better players.The staff was returning from a bowl game less than two weeks ago. Miami's bowl game was Dec. 27.
Aurich was hired Dec 7. Rumors of Robinson to NU Dec 8, rumors all over the place for a couple of weeks, then he goes to TAMU on Dec 21.
Ray Manning (DE coach) hired, announced Dec. 19th. Given your claim that DL is the greatest psn of need, you might disagree with Manning - "Just being here a quick observation in four or five days: There's no lack of talent here. I think it's just a matter of developing guys and putting them in a position so they can maximize what they're good at ... Belief is a huge thing in our game so I think just instilling that in our guys will help."
So the keystone cops look was Rhule trying to get a "name" and that "name" went to a program much closer to the college football playoff. Then they coached a bowl game, hired a DE coach that worked with Aurich at SDSU, and those two got familiar with the players on the roster. After the bowl game, they reached out to some DL coaches they liked, with Brown being one of them.
Well for one thing they have to do background checks then interviews. It appears they interviewed multiple guys before they landed on this guy. It’s a DT coach. He’s going to coach the DTs exactly the way his DC wants them coached. He’ll be fine.So if they wanted Elijah (and I agree they did) and they were ready to offer him weeks ago, why did it take so long to hire the new guy? Seems they wanted to move quickly but when Elijah said no they were then in scramble mode. The guy we just hired was not our first choice and given how long it took he wasn’t our second, third, or fourth choice either.
And traditionally it has been the case that sometimes you don’t hire a position coach until January. But that was pre portal. These days you want your position coaches in place before the portal opens. You certainly don’t wait until halfway through the portal window to hire the position coach for your team’s greatest area of portal need! And not only is defensive tackle our greatest need, it is also the hardest position to recruit to due to the fact that good defensive tackles are the hardest players to find.
Sorry, this hire has another keystone cops look and smell to it. Another late “scramble” to overcome an initial incompetence.
You can’t know that “he will be fine” until he proves he can recruit talent to Lincoln and then develop it.Well for one thing they have to do background checks then interviews. It appears they interviewed multiple guys before they landed on this guy. It’s a DT coach. He’s going to coach the DTs exactly the way his DC wants them coached. He’ll be fine.
Recruiting is my biggest concern hiring a guy from the MAC. He’s an unknown from a P4 standpoint but he did develop some good players at Miami.You can’t know that “he will be fine” until he proves he can recruit talent to Lincoln and then develop it.
This is my point about the Pollyanna boosterism on here. One day ago nobody on this board had ever even heard of this guy. But just like that all the two thumbs up boosters in the offseason cheerleader squad are out to let us all know that this is a solid hire and things will be fine.
How do you know that? We have now had ten years of failed coaches and crap seasons. But even after all of that we are “bad pessimistic fans” if we point out that this new dude is an unknown coach whose tenure here might suck as much as previous years.
One more portal day is now gone and we still have zero defensive tackle recruits.
Obviously this is on Rhule, but the one thing our DL was last year was young. Jeudy was the only Senior. Nwaneri, Moore, Pietrzak, and Hoffken (later in the season) were all playing “for real” for the first time. RVP was coming off a RS year. George didn’t pan out, and Cam L has always been undersized for a 3 man front. So it was a young group that was playing in an alignment that wasn’t conducive to them.Seriously? What did you expect the new DE coach would say? “Hey guys. I have done a quick analysis of our defensive line roster and quite frankly we need to upgrade our talent there. We need to hit the portal and bring in better players.” Of course he isn’t going to say that or even imply it in subtle ways. Nor should he. He said what a new coach should say, even if he knows in his heart that he needs better players.
Corey Brown may be a great coach and a great hire. We will see. What do I know anyway? Not a damn thing. I am just not going to rush in with immediate thumbs up for the guy just because he is now “our guy”. We sucked this year on the line. We lacked a dominant nose tackle and had very little depth. I won’t be jumping cartwheels over this new guy until our line improves.
As it stands right now our defensive line sucks. And that won’t change until it actually doesn’t suck. And until that happens the reality is that Nebraska has a sh$t defensive line. Maybe this new guy will change that. And maybe he won’t.
Who recruited Suh to Nebraska?The guy might be amazing but it would have been nice to have a guy with some connections to players that NU wants.
Recruiting is my biggest concern hiring a guy from the MAC. He’s an unknown from a P4 standpoint but he did develop some good players at Miami.
Pennsy, it's not Pollyanna boosterism, it's refusing to go around constantly pissed about something beyond my control.Recruiting is my biggest concern hiring a guy from the MAC. He’s an unknown from a P4 standpoint but he did develop some good players at Miami.
Yeah and Blake was a great recruiter. Maybe this guy will be too.Who recruited Suh to Nebraska?
Answer: John Blake. Suh said he trusted Blake and when Blake left Mississippi State for NU, he eventually flipped to Nebraska.
We've been reassured by credible folks on this board that there aren't any studs left in the portal. I want to see what he can do with a full crootin' season.Yeah and Blake was a great recruiter. Maybe this guy will be too.
Now, the bigger question is...could this guy get a stud that is in the portal?
Blake had a stash of bags. I suspect that played a role in some of the guys BC landed.Yeah and Blake was a great recruiter. Maybe this guy will be too.
Now, the bigger question is...could this guy get a stud that is in the portal?
Might be some playas left. Not sure they’re going to be interested in NUWe've been reassured by credible folks on this board that there aren't any studs left in the portal. I want to see what he can do with a full crootin' season.