Richard Barrett, white supremacist, now publicly supporting OM students...

thunderclap

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How glad am I we're not dealing with that **** storm.

How the people of Ole Miss could refer to anyone as redneck is beyond me. They tear down themselves without anyone's help.
 

thunderclap

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How glad am I we're not dealing with that **** storm.

How the people of Ole Miss could refer to anyone as redneck is beyond me. They tear down themselves without anyone's help.
 

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How glad am I we're not dealing with that **** storm.

How the people of Ole Miss could refer to anyone as redneck is beyond me. They tear down themselves without anyone's help.
 

jakldawg

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Ironically entitled frat boys opining for the glory days of the Confederacy isn't the least bit redneck, but treating agriculture like a scientific discipline that needs to be studied in a University setting is.
 

Todd4State

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the "meet and greet" of former KKK members at the State Fair had a lot of unintentional comedy potential.

Let's see, we're going to see the Snake Lady, and then we can meet Edgar Ray Killen, and then eat a fried twinkie.
 

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Holy crap. As much as I hate UM, I almost feel sorry for them with this guy on their side. And the worst part is that anyone out of state reading that isn't going to remember the difference between UM or MSU, or even that it had anything to do with a school and not the entire state. Thanks UM.
 

vandaldawg

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agriculture IS a scientific discipline that need to be studied in a university setting. That isn't redneck. Redneck is a monicker given to people who worked in the fields, so it is agriculturally relevant. MSU is therefore the redneck school. And goddam proud. They aren't rednecks. They are institutionally racist. And defiantly so. I'd rather be a redneck.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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...seems Barrett is a batshit crazy loon.

I'm not going to accuse anybody associated with Ole Miss of sharing beliefs with this nut.

But it should be reiterated to the Ole Miss student body that when you are doing something Richard Barrett is willing to champion, that's an ironclad sign you should probably stop doing it.</p>
 
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do nothing but harm. I almost understand what the students are complaining about, but they are going about it in all the wrong ways, with all the wrong people. I mean, you can't let a guy who parties with friggin' Edgar Ray Killen be vocal and indirectly represent your school. This could get ugly.
 

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RonnyAtmosphere said:
...seems Barrett is a batshit crazy loon.

<span style="font-weight: bold;">I'm not going to accuse anybody associated with Ole Miss of sharing beliefs with this nut.</span> <br style="font-weight: bold;">
But it should be reiterated to the Ole Miss student body that when you are doing something Richard Barrett is willing to champion, that's an ironclad sign you should probably stop doing it.</p>
That's okay. I'll do it enough for the both of us.
 

Fresno Bob

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I'm glad Barrett is involved. Those of our fan base who get so pissed off that somebody's trying to "steal their turd" as so aptly described below need a swift kick in the nuts to make them realize Barrett is what outsiders think of when they hear this ****.

Sheperd Smith's comments about it meaning "Go Rebels" to him when he waved a flag years ago but not realizing until later that it meant something else to the rest of the country is what is so hard to get through people's thick skulls. It doesn't matter what YOU think. The rest of the country will never see any of it as Ole Miss stuff but simply racist stuff. So, bleeping quit it!
 

bierto

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This **** has gotten ridiculous. At this point they may as well slap one of those bumper stickers that say the north 1 south 0 its halftime on the side of vaught hemmingway. It sucks for us too because our entire state will without a doubt be lumped in with a group of about 200 idiot students at ole miss who long for the days of old south
 

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Jakl was pointing out the irony that Mississippi's greek-heavy soft (and not-so-soft) bigots clinging to a confederate bygone era is not labeled as redneck, yet those same ignorant pricks have no problem labeling state folks rednecks for having an historically heavy agriculture influence.

Jakl is on our side.
 

Shmuley

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Richard Barrett and other Mississippi fans look forward to having you on campus and singing for you at the end of the game.
 

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RonnyAtmosphere said:
But it should be reiterated to the Ole Miss student body that when you are doing something Richard Barrett is willing to champion, that's an ironclad sign you should probably stop doing it.

+1 to this.

From the facebook pages I've seen, the students that are championing keeping this phrase say they want to keep it because it's tradition and it isn't racist to them. It's about heritage apparently.

Well, Richard Barrett just came in and took away that argument. The fact that Barrett sides with them should prove to them without a doubt that it is a racist chant, and it needs to stop. I'll be curious to see if the activities of the past two weeks, including Barrett, have any effect at all on the chant.

And no it's not tradition.
 

MSUCostanza

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You realize that everyone in the world outside of MSU fans will equate that to our ENTIRE STATE? Not just UM. Get it through your head.
 

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RebelBruiser said:
RonnyAtmosphere said:
But it should be reiterated to the Ole Miss student body that when you are doing something Richard Barrett is willing to champion, that's an ironclad sign you should probably stop doing it.

+1 to this.

From the facebook pages I've seen, the students that are championing keeping this phrase say they want to keep it because it's tradition and it isn't racist to them. It's about heritage apparently.

Well, Richard Barrett just came in and took away that argument. The fact that Barrett sides with them should prove to them without a doubt that it is a racist chant, and it needs to stop. I'll be curious to see if the activities of the past two weeks, including Barrett, have any effect at all on the chant.

And no it's not tradition.
This is the same justification every racist uses to substantiate their beliefs...
 

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chew1095 said:
RebelBruiser said:
RonnyAtmosphere said:
But it should be reiterated to the Ole Miss student body that when you are doing something Richard Barrett is willing to champion, that's an ironclad sign you should probably stop doing it.

+1 to this.

From the facebook pages I've seen, the students that are championing keeping this phrase say they want to keep it because it's tradition and it isn't racist to them. It's about heritage apparently.

Well, Richard Barrett just came in and took away that argument. The fact that Barrett sides with them should prove to them without a doubt that it is a racist chant, and it needs to stop. I'll be curious to see if the activities of the past two weeks, including Barrett, have any effect at all on the chant.

And no it's not tradition.
This is the same justification every racist uses to substantiate their beliefs...

Yep, just like the argument that the Civil War was about state's rights, and not slavery. Sure, it was about state's rights, the state's rights to own slaves.
 

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second, yes, I realize it would be a tremendous black eye for the state. Third, I don't really pray for stuff like this happen, it was half-hearted sarcasm, at best (obviously) considering the comical implications of the KKK hob-nobbing in the Grove with the cultural elite.
 

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Has anyone sent an eVite to the Rainbow Coalition or the NAACP?

Paging Al Sharpton...will Mr. Sharpton pick up on line 3...we have Dan Jones on hold...something about needing "backup" here in Oxford.
 

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Could this be the Grove?

Some dubmass rally in south ms

edited to add that I saw this picture on the local newspaper website when checking out the local news a not too long ago....
 

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The North's original intent when taking over Congress and the Presidency was to increase the amount of taxes paid on each slave. This would have definitely reduced the number of slaves but would not have ended slavery. If it were truly over whether slavery was ethical the timeline would have been emancipation-secede-war. The fact that the emancipation happened nearly two full years after the war started shows that the right to own slaves was not the key issue. Whether the emancipation was done on strategic or moral grounds is debatable. It was probably a mix of both.

History has been rewritten in recent years because it makes people feel better to think the North acted on morality rather than economic reasons.

The fact of how deplorable slavery is makes people want to think that someone would have stood up and said "Hey this just isn't right!".

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RebelBruiser said:
Yep, just like the argument that the Civil War was about state's rights, and not slavery. Sure, it was about state's rights, the state's rights to own slaves.
Where did you go to school? Ole Miss?

You need to re-take history.

Heck a bunch of southern states that didn't care much about states' rights all the sudden decided to care when Lincoln tapped them on the shoulder and said, "you're coming to fight against those rebel states". There where like...WTF who you to force me into that? Tell ya what if I'm gonna fight, its going to be a fight against the notion that a federal government could do such a thing.

Seriously dude (and the above was serious), it was about state's rights, not slavery. The North owned slaves too.
 

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I was told Tyrone Biggums will be lecturing on stage in the grove prior to kickoff right next to the fat Elvis.
 

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If they want the chant to end, quit playing the song that has the same exact message. The song and the chant mean the same thing to the people that are doing the chant. And from the outside, there isn't any difference between the song and the chant, if they have any idea what the song is (meshing Dixie and the Battle Hymn aside.)

The bottom line is that the adminstration finds it easy to fuss at the students, but they don't want to send the same message to their alumni and quit playing the song.

If they don't play the song, they don't do the chant. Probably.
 

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that many of our founding fathers who did own slaves found the institution of slavery inconsistent with the foundational ideals of the new republic. The economic reality of slavery, along with the established social rigidity of the day, helped them rationalize continuation of an institution they new was not in keeping with the notion that freedom is a gift from God to every human being.

So, some did stand up and say "This isn't right." Some very important people did that. But, they didn't do it very loudly. And their actions most certainly did not match their words. Perhaps the most striking example of this was the fact that Washington's instructions in his will were to free his slaves (his only, I might add) upon his death. He found the institution repugnant. But, he sure didn't do it in his lifetime. </p>