Some *** clown is trying to get it going again and is getting retweeted by Ray and the bunch. Let's squash this thing before it gets going again. Please. The only great part about going to games this year was none of them were there.
Rick's Rowdies
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That's not school spirit. It's dumb as ****. It's annoying and it makes us look terrible on TV.
I'm all for making the students more involved. Move the student section back to courtside and remove the chair backs.
I mean for God's sake, at least change the name if you're going to try and start a student group. Don't use the same hated group that was named after a coach who got fired this time last year.
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@esplanade91 You are an idiot. If you actually read what the "*** clown" said, he said they want to change the name and get the student section more full. I'm guessing you were a stansbury homer.
yes!! lets squash this everyone knows that a group of crazy fans yelling and acting a fool is not tolerated at a sporting event. Reminds me of that group called the...Cameron...Crazies I think.**
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I know this group has a reputation for being a bunch a idiots but there is no reason not to try it again and put a little more effort into getting quality participation. Rick's Rowdies 2
As active as Ray was in going around to Sorority and Fraternity houses getting support and smack talking Ole Miss days before we beat their ***. I think it would be different this time around. I tend to agree with you to some level though. I would at least change the name.
5 idiots jumping around when everyone else is sitting down = lame
200+ idiots jumping around when everyone else is sitting down = bad ***
The same can be said about the hype guy they had, (not sure if he is still there because I was'nt able to make a game last year.) For one you couldnt hear what he was saying and he seemed to be really excited and trying hard but everyone was just kind of...."eh". To me that was embarrassing. Something about seeing him out there jumping around to "Let me clear my throat" and getting the "1, 2, 3 SCREAM!!!" met with silence was a little awkward.
I say if they are going to have a student group, strive for 200+ if you only have 12 show up for the first meeting, can it.
5 idiots jumping around when everyone else is sitting down = lame
200+ idiots jumping around when everyone else is sitting down = bad ***
The same can be said about the hype guy they had, (not sure if he is still there because I was'nt able to make a game last year.) For one you couldnt hear what he was saying and he seemed to be really excited and trying hard but everyone was just kind of...."eh". To me that was embarrassing. Something about seeing him out there jumping around to "Let me clear my throat" and getting the "1, 2, 3 SCREAM!!!" met with silence was a little awkward.
I say if they are going to have a student group, strive for 200+ if you only have 12 show up for the first meeting, can it.
I thought that dorks on the front row of college basketball games getting on TV was one of those things that mass copying of Duke had, by now, caused to have been accepted by all and integrated into the college basketball experience.
The original rowdies went down hill some after the 2006 suck, but wig/cape man and his group ruined it by only allowing "officers" to sit up front and having seating assignments based on attendance (not to mention he was a complete ***). That killed anything resembling the old rowdies because who wants assigned seats in an open student section? Back in the day, it was apretty bad *** group, too.
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Is it those 4 geeks that stood by the guy in the referee shirt? Those guys made us look terrible on TV because they were the only four Rick's Rowdies holdouts left. I'm fine with all this if they get more people to do it and make it look good. We definitely need a student organization for basketball.
Or....
Ray Guys - Nah that wouldn't work. Nobody younger than 50 would get it plus the original played a different sport at USM
How about really copying dook and ditch the connection with the HC in lieu of something to do with the school or the venue.
What Rhymes with Hump or State? One could get really creative with a word like Hump.
Ray Guys - Nah that wouldn't work. Nobody younger than 50 would get it plus the original played a different sport at USM
How about really copying dook and ditch the connection with the HC in lieu of something to do with the school or the venue.
What Rhymes with Hump or State? One could get really creative with a word like Hump.
It has to be organic and just happen. Anytime you put structure to a group, the creativity/novelty dies. How in the hell do you think the left field lounge has lasted this long? It's organic. No one has ever tried to structure or make it fit a mold/system. It just developed.
The students need to take a page out of the veterans play book. Show up, plan to act an ***, and bring booze. It's really that easy. Two things helped when I was at State 1) We won and 2) nobody brought props. We just came to have a good time and yell. You raced for seats and if you didn't want to stand you sat in the upper ring.
The students need to take a page out of the veterans play book. Show up, plan to act an ***, and bring booze. It's really that easy. Two things helped when I was at State 1) We won and 2) nobody brought props. We just came to have a good time and yell. You raced for seats and if you didn't want to stand you sat in the upper ring.
Yes, I'm a Stans homer because I hate that a group named after him is trying to come back. You caught me.
I'm all for a student group. But let's be realistic here. Why don't they put chairs in the student section of football games? The same thing would happen (people would sit). Probably has a little to do with them wanting to stuff as many students in as possible and spend 0 money on students, but you can't tell me that the reason 99% of college football stadiums have bleachers for students for that reason. The niceness of The Hump killed the atmosphere.
Not only did they facilitate sitting, they simultaneously split the student section and moved them to an irrelevant spot in the coliseum. If you have to split it, make one courtside with limited seating and make it first come first serve with wristbands or something. That is an organic way to make a "Rick's Rowdies-esk" group.
Cameron's Crazies is awesome, but so is the 12th man at A&M. You can't just take an amazing part of one college and just say "hey, we're doing that now"... If you wanted to do something like create a group that gets students to go around campus advertising basketball games and stuff and give it a name, name it after the school or arena, not a coach. That's what was awesome about The Dude's. It basically just got guys to show up and it was named after the stadium. Not a coach that could likely leave in a couple of years. Duke has the greatest coach of all time and they're not named K's Crazies.
My last point: Whether you like it or not or whether it's fair or not, student involvement comes with success. Even this *** hat (dick) from Rick's Rowdies admitted it was only awesome from 2001-2004.
Some easy examples for you: The New Orleans Saints were for sale in 2004 because they sucked awfully and no one went to games. They're regularly a top 10 team now and it has the highest % of ticket sales of all 32 teams.
No one bought MSU merchandise or attended football games from 2001-2008, which also correlates with the worst years in school history for football. We started winning games and have received some pretty good endorsement deals and have sold out every game since.
MSU baseball struggled post-2007 to really last year, and that's a sport generally where we have the most diehard support. This is the first time in my 4 years I've seen people going to the games religiously, and no one can sit here and tell me that us being ranked in the top 15 the whole year didn't have anything to do with setting an attendance record this year.
2012-2013 MSU basketball was the worst team the school has ever fielded. Ever. People don't care if they give 100% effort because they should give 100%. That's their job. Of course no one wanted to go to games. Rick's Rowdies, The Humpers, Ray's Gay's, Bailey Howell's Homies, or any other group isn't going to change that. They waited what, 3 years before they implemented The Dudes? It was opportune because it was the first pretty good year in a while.
Whether it's fair or not, people aren't going to the games because the team sucks. It's Ray's job to go out and get some decent players and get students motivated to go to games through success on the court and it's the marketing department's job to get people to go to the games regardless until then by giving out iPad's and dumb ****... before you say "yeah, by starting a student group"... my next point...
... Rick's Rowdies* (or whatever the name you give it) won't catch on until you have a good team. It has to happen organically. If the marketing department started a group for next year's team it would die halfway through the season and be forever associated with another bad team. Wait till the team is good and students start coming to games because they want to come to games and then capture their excitement in a bottle by getting them to sign up for The Dawg Pound or whatever you name it. That's how you get 200+ kids going crazy in an awesome way every great matchup of the season.
Again, whether it's fair or not, that's how it is. Putting 10 guys in maroon wigs, sleeveless shirts, and Party City referee Halloween costumes who chant "Hey" the whole game is and always will be a bad thing.
Before anyone gives me crap about being a bad fan, I'm one of the few MSU fans who can say they went to every home game this season. The student section was horrible, but had they unified the sections after they realized no one was coming it would have been a pretty decent size. Even further, most students went and just sat courtside because no one was stopping them. The greatest student section of the whole year was when Ray went and got kids to come and they gave away free t-shirts... and they weren't allowing students to sit just anywhere they wanted. Do this until the right time. It worked. No need for more annoying referees in sunglasses.
We had a good student environment before Ricks Rowdies (98-01). There were a number of us who got there early and did our part at every home game. There were seats, but we never sat.
I don't remember exactly when the rowdies started, but I remember thinking that by making it the "cool thing to do" (since it was mostly SGA-type nerds and some Greeks), that at some point, those kids would flake out. When they tried to start saving seats or make the lower section only available to rowdies, we called BS on it. but i Think they eventually got approval to do that. at some point though, supporting the team became not cool, leaving the super-nerd all stars that were left at the end. Splitting the students certainly compounded the problem.
In any event, it shouldn't take an organized effort to drum up support. But at least this guy is trying to get something positive going.
I don't remember exactly when the rowdies started, but I remember thinking that by making it the "cool thing to do" (since it was mostly SGA-type nerds and some Greeks), that at some point, those kids would flake out. When they tried to start saving seats or make the lower section only available to rowdies, we called BS on it. but i Think they eventually got approval to do that. at some point though, supporting the team became not cool, leaving the super-nerd all stars that were left at the end. Splitting the students certainly compounded the problem.
In any event, it shouldn't take an organized effort to drum up support. But at least this guy is trying to get something positive going.
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I personally just think it's a lazy way of trying to get people to like MSU basketball again. They're ripping off a name that comes from one of the more controversial figures in MSU sports simply because it's easy to get going. Going around and calling out students for being bad fans who sit the entire game is a great business model too...
The Dudes hold an interest meeting right before the season every year and basically all they do is give out a cool t-shirt and say if you attend every home game of the season the head coach will grill you a steak personally at his own home. You don't think something similar would work? Hell, that exact thing worked for one game this season when most expected us to lose by 50 to Ole Miss. It doesn't need to be a special section for guys to paint their chests and look like complete losers. If the basketball team gets their **** together and quits partying the night before games and wins, the student section will take care of itself. The Hump is the way it is because of the on-court product during the final leg of Stans' career. Good team = good environment.
Above all, a student group isn't fixing the overall problem of attendance. There were about just as many students at games as alumni and fans. Maybe we should start a group for all of you too.
The Dudes hold an interest meeting right before the season every year and basically all they do is give out a cool t-shirt and say if you attend every home game of the season the head coach will grill you a steak personally at his own home. You don't think something similar would work? Hell, that exact thing worked for one game this season when most expected us to lose by 50 to Ole Miss. It doesn't need to be a special section for guys to paint their chests and look like complete losers. If the basketball team gets their **** together and quits partying the night before games and wins, the student section will take care of itself. The Hump is the way it is because of the on-court product during the final leg of Stans' career. Good team = good environment.
Above all, a student group isn't fixing the overall problem of attendance. There were about just as many students at games as alumni and fans. Maybe we should start a group for all of you too.