Riverheads Will Repeat Because Of ?

[trutiger16]

For the record im not a supporter of Big Red Machine, I’m sure most of you all are aware of that fact. Riverheads in my opinion will repeat due to one factor- DISCIPLINE !

Riverheads counters far more athletically teams with team discipline, the last few years I have seen them throttle My Tigers and Essex in which arguably puts more athletes on the field than most in 1a.
With that said I don’t think respectfully that Northumberland or Franklin overall speed is a factor, if either of these programs have a shot they must limit turnovers in which is a bugaboo for both at the moment. Franklin best shot is to get Riversheads down to Armory and play mistake free football, Northumberland still must show that beating Essex doesn’t complete their season ( don’t get to high). Northumberland is NOT ready for the Riverheads experience.

Chilhowie is probably the only thing standing between the 3 peat.

 

[MT FAN 91]

For the record im not a supporter of Big Red Machine, I’m sure most of you all are aware of that fact. Riverheads in my opinion will repeat due to one factor- DISCIPLINE !

Riverheads counters far more athletically teams with team discipline, the last few years I have seen them throttle My Tigers and Essex in which arguably puts more athletes on the field than most in 1a.
With that said I don’t think respectfully that Northumberland or Franklin overall speed is a factor, if either of these programs have a shot they must limit turnovers in which is a bugaboo for both at the moment. Franklin best shot is to get Riversheads down to Armory and play mistake free football, Northumberland still must show that beating Essex doesn’t complete their season ( don’t get to high). Northumberland is NOT ready for the Riverheads experience.

Chilhowie is probably the only thing standing between the 3 peat.

Seems like most people think only one team from the west has a shot.

 

[THEGOATFROMJMU]

I've heard you and others reference the armory several times as a huge homefield advantage. I've been there 4-5 times and it pales in comparasion to teams in SWVA specifically and the Shenandoah Valley.

The atmosphere there is like a below average regular season game in SWva

 

[Optimal62]

I've heard you and others reference the armory several times as a huge homefield advantage. I've been there 4-5 times and it pales in comparasion to teams in SWVA specifically and the Shenandoah Valley.

The atmosphere there is like a below average regular season game in SWva

Just curious what is the average attendance for a high school game in the East? Thanks

 

[trutiger16]

Not saying the Armory is better than anyone else homefield, just saying for Franklin to have a chance they must get Riverheads at the Armory, remember Riverheads has won there before, Franklin or anyone else has zero chance in Staunton.

 

[trutiger16]

Seems like most people think only one team from the west has a shot.

Yes that’s 110% what I am saying, please enlighten me on who else out West can challenge for a State Title.

 

[trutiger16]

Just curious what is the average attendance for a high school game in the East? Thanks

I agree your attendance maybe better and game day atmospheres maybe better, but currently your brand of football out west is down.

 

[uvacavs1]

Not saying the Armory is better than anyone else homefield, just saying for Franklin to have a chance they must get Riverheads at the Armory, remember Riverheads has won there before, Franklin or anyone else has zero chance in Staunton.

trutiger16 makes some valid points here.

Galax is the other team that may be able to compete.

 

[trutiger16]

trutiger16 makes some valid points here.

Galax is the other team that may be able to compete.

I agree uvacavs1, Galax has familiarity with the Red Machine which surely helps.

 

[MT FAN 91]

I agree uvacavs1, Galax has familiarity with the Red Machine which surely helps.

Make up your mind! You just said 110% no one but Chilhowie had a shot!

 

[MT FAN 91]

I agree your attendance maybe better and game day atmospheres maybe better, but currently your brand of football out west is down.

Maybe you should come on down to swva and see if it's down because from what I've seen it hasn't changed a whole lot.

 

[trutiger16]

Make up your mind! You just said 110% no one but Chilhowie had a shot!

110% standing behind my beliefs, Mt Fan 91 once again can you express your thoughts on your West State Champion contender(s) or are you sir just a critic please share your thoughts ?

 

[trutiger16]

Maybe you should come on down to swva and see if it's down because from what I've seen it hasn't changed a whole lot.

I travel that area quite frequently in my travels give me a location and I’ll try to take It in. But fact remains you don’t have many horses in your stable out West. Give me your top 5 1a teams out west and I will compare them to my top 5 teams here in the east. Whats up ?

 

[MT FAN 91]

So do you believe it's just Chilhowie that has a shot or is it Chilhowie and Galax? I'm confused!!!! I only see two teams that I truly think can compete from the west, Chilhowie and Galax but you never know they could be a surprise team lurking somewhere in the west.

 

[trutiger16]

So do you believe it's just Chilhowie that has a shot or is it Chilhowie and Galax? I'm confused!!!! I only see two teams that I truly think can compete from the west, Chilhowie and Galax but you never know they could be a surprise team lurking somewhere in the west.

Chilhowie can compete , but not for 4 quarters with Riverheads. Ok you only have 2 teams but you stated some good football is played out West now I’m confused

 

[trutiger16]

Make up your mind! You just said 110% no one but Chilhowie had a shot!

uvacavs1 made a great suggestion unlike you with just criticism and drama laced comments.

 

[MT FAN 91]

Just because I don't think that their is many more that can compete for a title doesn't mean their isn't good football played in the west. GW, JIB, PH GLADE SPRING, GRUNDY to name a few that play some pretty good football out west. Who can truly compete with Riverheads from the east? Do you really think Franklin or Northumberland can compete for a state title. I'm asking because I haven't watched either play, so I don't have a clue bout teams from the East other than Riverheads is usually a well oiled machine and if they're on i don't know if anyone in1A can beat them but I hope I'm wrong.

 

[MT FAN 91]

uvacavs1 made a great suggestion unlike you with just criticism and drama laced comments.

Not trying to criticize or create drama, just trying to figure who you think has a chance from your comments because I can't tell if it is just Chilhowie or if it is Chilhowie and Galax???

 

[trutiger16]

Didnt say Win but Compete.

 

[MT FAN 91]

Just because I don't think that their is many more that can compete for a title doesn't mean their isn't good football played in the west. GW, JIB, PH GLADE SPRING, GRUNDY to name a few that play some pretty good football out west. Who can truly compete with Riverheads from the east? Do you really think Franklin or Northumberland can compete for a state title. I'm asking because I haven't watched either play, so I don't have a clue bout teams from the East other than Riverheads is usually a well oiled machine and if they're on i don't know if anyone in1A can beat them but I hope I'm wrong.

NARROWS, PM AND COVINGTON should also be on the list of Western teams that play some pretty good football and I'm sure I have left someone off the list.

 

[Ind2]

I think both Northumberland and Franklin both has a chance to compete with Riverheads. Simple fact that both teams have matchup problems for Riverheads. With Ford at Franklin and Palmer at Northumberland those guys will make it somewhat close against Riverheads

 

[RappriverEHS]

Last year's game between Essex and Riverheads is the closest game Riverheads will have against any team in Region A. I do not believe this year's Northumberland or Franklin are anywhere (no matter how much improved) near as good was Essex was last year and Riverheads has gotten better this year.

 

[gwb16]

For the record im not a supporter of Big Red Machine, I’m sure most of you all are aware of that fact. Riverheads in my opinion will repeat due to one factor- DISCIPLINE !

Riverheads counters far more athletically teams with team discipline, the last few years I have seen them throttle My Tigers and Essex in which arguably puts more athletes on the field than most in 1a.
With that said I don’t think respectfully that Northumberland or Franklin overall speed is a factor, if either of these programs have a shot they must limit turnovers in which is a bugaboo for both at the moment. Franklin best shot is to get Riversheads down to Armory and play mistake free football, Northumberland still must show that beating Essex doesn’t complete their season ( don’t get to high). Northumberland is NOT ready for the Riverheads experience.

Chilhowie is probably the only thing standing between the 3 peat.

I thought you were going to say because of that 1/2 student in their enrollment numbers...
And last time I checked....fans don't play the game...and as a player from years gone by. I can't say I ever noticed fan noise while on the field. My focus, our teams focus was on the play called and our opponent. If anyone says differently, they were playing the game for the wrong reasons.

 

[longtimerhsfan]

The discipline that TruTiger first referenced is indeed a key component to Riverheads' success. But you also have to add in qualities such as tradition, familiarity with the system, and just plain old coaching. Plus I am told that it starts with a strong Little League program, which all of Augusta County has had in place for quite some time.

There is also the matter of depth. This year the Gladiators have about 50 on the roster and as we all know, numbers and general interest in football are on a downward trend because of all the concern about concussions.

But that has not yet hit Riverheads (the lower numbers I mean) and instead this year we have a whole stable full of running backs and arguably some of the better ones are only sophomores. And one of the best coming up is only a freshman, plus we have an eighth-grade quarterback on our JVs that is the real deal. So I hate to tell you guys, but we are not going away.

However, having said that, Riverheads CAN be beaten and certainly has been. Ask Galax for its secret back in 2015, find out what Lee and Central did on back to back weekends last year, or see this year's shutout at the hands of East Rock. As Coach Casto has said on quite a few occasions......." We do what we do and if you can stop us, you win."

 

[WhudeyCHS]

Chilhowie can compete , but not for 4 quarters with Riverheads. Ok you only have 2 teams but you stated some good football is played out West now I’m confused

Don't know what you are basing off of, that Chilhowie can't compete for 4 quarters. Just like Galax, they are a different team the year and have plenty of depth to rotate. They have speed on both sides of the ball and the QB has gotten even better. Would Riverheads be a favorite, of course they would. They have won 2 in a row but this is a different year. Chilhowie or Galax would keep up with them till the last tick on the clock and a have a real good chance of winning.

 

[Raider_Man]

The slurpfest of Riverheads has to stop. They are not invincible so please stop annointing them.

Also, it seems that Franklin & Northumberland have been slated into the Region A Championship already. Alot of football to be played and a couple of dark horse lurking so beware

 

[Xcross]

How about some of you from around state give up your Friday night at home and travel the road to a Red game . Then tell everyone how your team would match up . I really don't know how the Red Team compares to the rest of 1A . I would love to here your comments !

 

[trutiger16]

Just because I don't think that their is many more that can compete for a title doesn't mean their isn't good football played in the west. GW, JIB, PH GLADE SPRING, GRUNDY to name a few that play some pretty good football out west. Who can truly compete with Riverheads from the east? Do you really think Franklin or Northumberland can compete for a state title. I'm asking because I haven't watched either play, so I don't have a clue bout teams from the East other than Riverheads is usually a well oiled machine and if they're on i don't know if anyone in1A can beat them but I hope I'm wrong.[/QUOT

Don't know what you are basing off of, that Chilhowie can't compete for 4 quarters. Just like Galax, they are a different team the year and have plenty of depth to rotate. They have speed on both sides of the ball and the QB has gotten even better. Would Riverheads be a favorite, of course they would. They have won 2 in a row but this is a different year. Chilhowie or Galax would keep up with them till the last tick on the clock and a have a real good chance of winning.

They can prove it i hope

 

[trutiger16]

I thought you were going to say because of that 1/2 student in their enrollment numbers...
And last time I checked....fans don't play the game...and as a player from years gone by. I can't say I ever noticed fan noise while on the field. My focus, our teams focus was on the play called and our opponent. If anyone says differently, they were playing the game for the wrong reasons.

Stop trying to create drama , the enrollment stigma will always be attached so i dont need to remind you the State knows.

 

[trutiger16]

Don't know what you are basing off of, that Chilhowie can't compete for 4 quarters. Just like Galax, they are a different team the year and have plenty of depth to rotate. They have speed on both sides of the ball and the QB has gotten even better. Would Riverheads be a favorite, of course they would. They have won 2 in a row but this is a different year. Chilhowie or Galax would keep up with them till the last tick on the clock and a have a real good chance of winning.

Lets be for real, in my humble opinion Chilhowie can not play with Riverheads, im sure the desperation / pressure is on Chilhowie to win now , is that program a 1 hit wonder or are they here for years to come ? I dont know but my gut tells me they are like Haleys Comet. Just my opinion but im sure im right on this one.

 

[gwb16]

Stop trying to create drama , the enrollment stigma will always be attached so i dont need to remind you the State knows.

ME? Create drama?
You are the one that keeps beating on that dead horse. Naturally when we see that your headline has Riverheads in it, you have us programmed to be prepared to see an enrollment reference. Don't want the drama? Quit being the drama. Simple solution. Thin skin much?

 

[trutiger16]

ME? Create drama?
You are the one that keeps beating on that dead horse. Naturally when we see that your headline has Riverheads in it, you have us programmed to be prepared to see an enrollment reference. Don't want the drama? Quit being the drama. Simple solution. Thin skin much?

Dude i havent mentioned anything about the enrollment issue, so stop playing the victim i left that alone months ago were have you been ? My thread is based on comments made by other peoples analysis that speed will beat Riverheads, my rebuttal was i have witness Riverheads handle speed teams with discipline football. So stop stirring the pot.

 

[woodlayer#952002]

I've heard you and others reference the armory several times as a huge homefield advantage. I've been there 4-5 times and it pales in comparasion to teams in SWVA specifically and the Shenandoah Valley.

The atmosphere there is like a below average regular season game in SWva

Playoffs is a different animal

 

[WhudeyCHS]

Lets be for real, in my humble opinion Chilhowie can not play with Riverheads, im sure the desperation / pressure is on Chilhowie to win now , is that program a 1 hit wonder or are they here for years to come ? I dont know but my gut tells me they are like Haleys Comet. Just my opinion but im sure im right on this one.

It's cool. Everyone has their own opinion. This thread is about this year not years to come, whether they are one hit wonders or not. This year, Chilhowie can compete with Riverheads. Being for real. I know it's hard to fathom that there could be a team from the west that could win a 1A title this year but there is. Two of them possibly could. There isn't any desperation and the kids aren't feeling any pressure in Chilhowie. They play week to week. They learned alot from last year. They have grown from it. They will be down after this year because they will be losing 15 starters. They won't be the same caliber next year but we are talking about this year. However it is amazing that the Riverheads coaching staff keeps them in the championship hunt year after year.

 

[gwb16]

Dude i havent mentioned anything about the enrollment issue, so stop playing the victim i left that alone months ago were have you been ? My thread is based on comments made by other peoples analysis that speed will beat Riverheads, my rebuttal was i have witness Riverheads handle speed teams with discipline football. So stop stirring the pot.

Right....you've mentioned it multiple times over the last 3 years AT LEAST. You haven't let it go. You just haven't mentioned it here today. Pardon my attempt at making a little joke. Reference my previous thin skin remark....moving on.
But back to topic....every year, someone in the east boasts about "speed" and every year a team from the west comes in and beats on heads. As a resident of the east, it makes me chuckle...because some of these guys still haven't figured out that you can't run fast when your head is being beaten in by a violent defense.
I like watching Poquoson's defense in the Bay Rivers. You touched on discipline earlier. I agree 100%. They play solid disciplined defense. Most years they don't have the best athletes man for man, but they play together so well. The discipline is the key. Everyone knows their place and roll. Kind of difficult to beat that combination.

A top notch coaching staff can make an average team great, but a bad staff can make a great team look horrible.

See @trutiger16 we have some common ground here.

 

[trutiger16]

Right....you've mentioned it multiple times over the last 3 years AT LEAST. You haven't let it go. You just haven't mentioned it here today. Pardon my attempt at making a little joke. Reference my previous thin skin remark....moving on.
But back to topic....every year, someone in the east boasts about "speed" and every year a team from the west comes in and beats on heads. As a resident of the east, it makes me chuckle...because some of these guys still haven't figured out that you can't run fast when your head is being beaten in by a violent defense.
I like watching Poquoson's defense in the Bay Rivers. You touched on discipline earlier. I agree 100%. They play solid disciplined defense. Most years they don't have the best athletes man for man, but they play together so well. The discipline is the key. Everyone knows their place and roll. Kind of difficult to beat that combination.

A top notch coaching staff can make an average team great, but a bad staff can make a great team look horrible.

See @trutiger16 we have some common ground here.

I mentioned because you took a shot at me so stop trying to twist it. How are your Windsor Dukes ? Just asking

 

[woodlayer#952002]

The discipline that TruTiger first referenced is indeed a key component to Riverheads' success. But you also have to add in qualities such as tradition, familiarity with the system, and just plain old coaching. Plus I am told that it starts with a strong Little League program, which all of Augusta County has had in place for quite some time.

There is also the matter of depth. This year the Gladiators have about 50 on the roster and as we all know, numbers and general interest in football are on a downward trend because of all the concern about concussions.

But that has not yet hit Riverheads (the lower numbers I mean) and instead this year we have a whole stable full of running backs and arguably some of the better ones are only sophomores. And one of the best coming up is only a freshman, plus we have an eighth-grade quarterback on our JVs that is the real deal. So I hate to tell you guys, but we are not going away.

However, having said that, Riverheads CAN be beaten and certainly has been. Ask Galax for its secret back in 2015, find out what Lee and Central did on back to back weekends last year, or see this year's shutout at the hands of East Rock. As Coach Casto has said on quite a few occasions......." We do what we do and if you can stop us, you win."

Riverheads need to be in division 2A with 50 players on there varsity roster some schools don't have 50 players combined and that's jv and varsity I guess im the only one who think this way they couldn't cut in division 2A so they dominate 1A with 474 student's and 50 players on there varsity roster a lot of people on this board won't speak on riverheads but I will just being honest

 

[woodlayer#952002]

Dude i havent mentioned anything about the enrollment issue, so stop playing the victim i left that alone months ago were have you been ? My thread is based on comments made by other peoples analysis that speed will beat Riverheads, my rebuttal was i have witness Riverheads handle speed teams with discipline football. So stop stirring the pot.

Don't worry ill stir it for you

 

[RedPrideNation_RollPride]

I had a completely different reply to this thread until the infamous woodlayer dropped in for his trip down enrollment road. There are 50 players on the sideline in some part to us having 474.5 students but it’s also about the winning. There is another school from out in the east that has like 473 students but they don’t have that kind of turn out. Any program that has sustained success always have more players come out.

Here is the best part for you since you want to play us so badly, if we don’t meet this year maybe next year when we are in the same region we will play and we will have some classic games to talk about on here.

Until then I will just watch high school kids play their hearts out for us old folks and try to enjoy the winning and learn from the losing.

As for stirring the pot, you may get someone to comment further but we all know it’s for naught. You are convinced that the Red Team cheats and the VHSL keeps putting us right where we belong in 1A. If that changes, I will still be somewhere on the boards talking about football. Been here a lot longer than the sign in date says so I won’t be leaving soon.

 

[gwb16]

I mentioned because you took a shot at me so stop trying to twist it. How are your Windsor Dukes ? Just asking

I've dropped the 1/2 student....it was MEANT to be a joke....get your shorts unwadded already...

I don't have any idea how T-Mo's Dukes are doing. Looking at scores this year, it appears they are struggling a bit again. I'm a Smithfield Packer. But I graduated from King William in the mid 80's.
I will offer this about T-Mo, you won't find another coach in the state that cares more about his kids or one that pours more into the program. I hope that he can get things turned around for the Dukes. Small numbers are hurting. Time will tell.
Your boys are young this year. Hope that your numbers pick up also. These little 1A outlying rural schools are getting tested with the numbers games. I was reading the other night that Surry is struggling with numbers even in the youth league. There was an attempt to get a middle school team together and it was met with "money and numbers" push back. These kids need the outlets and options. Too many negative influences out here today.