Robert Gray for President

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rynodawg

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Speechless.
. Yes, embarrassing to say the least. Indicative of how many do the slightest bit of research. Combination of 3 things:
1. He was first name on ballot, many just picked first name.
2. Only male on ballot, others must have picked based on that.
3. About 50% of Dems in Republican counties don't vote in the Dem primary, because ALL of the local races are Republican only. I don't blame them for doing so. These voters are generally well informed about the races. I never saw one ad or sign for Slater in Rankin. I had to actively read up to know she was the most well funded pick, and that Gray wasn't even trying. Most voters won't bother with that.

In other news, Madison voters put a suspended judge in a run off, so there's plenty of clueless voting to go around.
 

MrKotter

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The democrats who don't vote are generally well informed about the races? Ok...
 

rynodawg

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The democrats who don't vote are generally well informed about the races? Ok...

I said they don't vote in the Dem primary. They vote in the Republican one. They are well informed enough to know that the only meaningful races are in the Republican primary.
 

esplanade91

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Yeah, that's terrible. You'd think someone would take advantage of the fact that Phil would probably win the nomination and is pretty widely unlinked by everyone.
 

Bulldogg31

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It will be interesting to see if Dems turn out to vote for that fellow in the governor's election. I mean, what if he wins? Wow.
 

dawgstudent

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Just depends on which way you want to go. A lot of people in NE Jackson voted in the democratic primary b/c the local elections affected them more.
 

patdog

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You'd think someone would take advantage of the fact that Phil would probably win the nomination and is pretty widely unlinked by everyone.
Bryant is unliked by a lot of people, but he would win in a landslide against any Republican or Democrat who tried to run against him.
 

GloryDawg

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It will be interesting to see if Dems turn out to vote for that fellow in the governor's election. I mean, what if he wins? Wow.

I don't think Dems are going to turn out for the General Election. Far as that goes many Republicans will stay home. All incumbents on the state wide elections are going to win big. Jim Hood will win but not by as large of a margin as the Republicans.

I am surprise that Lewis lost in Hinds county. I guess all the problems they had at the county jail just hurt him. Now maybe all those bill board sayingTyrone loves you will be removed from around Jackson.
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Original48

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Parody..but funny nonetheless

@RobertGrayDEM: Dear @MarshallRamsey, you ask that campaigns go clean up their signs now. I hope others follow my example as I am already done. #mselex

@RobertGrayDEM: I am NOT a plant. I ran a good campaign based on the issues. Granted I don't know what those issues are #mselex https://t.co/NyZwv7I2O9

@RobertGrayDEM: @Ben_Stanfield no need to widen the gate. I am a very skilled truck driver and can back into that with my eyes closed.

@RobertGrayDEM: Serious question. Can anyone help me figure out my stance on the issues. @msdemocrats say they don't know who I am. #DebatePrep #mselex

@RobertGrayDEM: To answer the people who ask #whoisrobertgray If i wanted you to know I would actually have gone out and campaigned #mselex @a__gibson
 

esplanade91

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Fair enough, but that still doesn't explain why someone didn't see an easy opportunity to challenge him.

Sigh. He's the worst.
 

johnson86-1

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Fair enough, but that still doesn't explain why someone didn't see an easy opportunity to challenge him.

Sigh. He's the worst.

What is the point of "challenging" him only to lose in a landslide? Nobody wants to give money to somebody that is going to lose in a landslide and lots of people would be annoyed at even being asked. And for what purpose? So they can get some name recognition to later run for a local election, or maybe a state house or senate position? Or just the ego boost of being able to claim they were the democratic nominee for governor one time?
 

Maroon Eagle

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I think the one thing that will drive Democrats to the polls will be Initiative 42.
 

GloryDawg

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I think the one thing that will drive Democrats to the polls will be Initiative 42.

Not disagreeing but how many people will even know what it is and will know it's on the ballet. Other than Conservative radio like Paul Gallow show you don't hear hardly anything about it.
 

Duke Humphrey

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School Superintendents will make sure teachers, parents, public know....

Not disagreeing but how many people will even know what it is and will know it's on the ballet. Other than Conservative radio like Paul Gallow show you don't hear hardly anything about it.

Simply put, Initiative 42 is a wolf in sheep's clothing. It sounds good when read, but people will not realize the ramifications it will have on the state.
 

dorndawg

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Ramifications like possibly not being 50th in basically every education metric?

Simply put, Initiative 42 is a wolf in sheep's clothing. It sounds good when read, but people will not realize the ramifications it will have on the state.
 

seshomoru

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Yeah... not sure how we could do worse.

Are we worried we'll fall behind Puerto Rico?
 

Duke Humphrey

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Or that one judge in Hinds County will dictate how ALL ed money is spent

Ramifications like possibly not being 50th in basically every education metric?

"Madison has more than enough, need some more in JPS"

And if you think more money alone is going to move us from 50th, I have beachfront property in Oktibbeha County to sell you.
 

dorndawg

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Considering we've fully funded Mississippi public school a whooping two years since 1997, I'd say a little more money is worth a shot. I'm interested to hear what you think may do the trick?

"Madison has more than enough, need some more in JPS"

And if you think more money alone is going to move us from 50th, I have beachfront property in Oktibbeha County to sell you.
 

OleMissLogo

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Considering we've fully funded Mississippi public school a whooping two years since 1997, I'd say a little more money is worth a shot. I'm interested to hear what you think may do the trick?

School district consolidation, merit pay for teachers, and a Master's Ed degree requirement for teachers (with more child psychology and learning coursework).
 

dorndawg

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School district consolidation Sign me up, merit pay for teachers would depend upon the criteria, and a Master's Ed degree requirement for teachers (with more child psychology and learning coursework) Soooo you want to do away with the majority of teachers and replace them with teachers who will command a much higher salary? All without spending more?
 
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Consolidation is the only really good idea. The rest is garbage. I know many really good teachers that have no Masters in Ed. You're going to have a shortage of teachers with those requirements.
 

johnson86-1

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School district consolidation, merit pay for teachers, and a Master's Ed degree requirement for teachers (with more child psychology and learning coursework).

Pretty sure there is no correlation between masters degrees and better teachers. Unless some new research has come out finding it.
 

johnson86-1

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Are we worried we'll fall behind Puerto Rico?

Seeing as how there is not much (or any?) correlation between per pupil spending and academic achievement, we could have ****** academic achievement and also not enough money to spend where it will actually do some good?
 

OleMissLogo

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School district consolidation Sign me up, merit pay for teachers would depend upon the criteria, and a Master's Ed degree requirement for teachers (with more child psychology and learning coursework) Soooo you want to do away with the majority of teachers and replace them with teachers who will command a much higher salary? All without spending more?

No it would be a rolling requirement. For new teachers. Obviously we can't just start from scratch.

However, there is a ton of money in the public school system that is being just absolutely wasted. School district consolidation would be a start, but until the system stops flushing money, I don't want to throw more at it.

And I don't say this as some random person on a message board. I say it as someone with over 2000 hours in research in Mississippi's education system.

The most glaring example is the Bolivar County school districts. Bolivar County (one of the least populated counties in the state), has SIX independent school districts. Benoit has ONE school in the entire district. Two in Mound Bayou. Three in North Bolivar. Two in Shaw.
 

OleMissLogo

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Consolidation is the only really good idea. The rest is garbage. I know many really good teachers that have no Masters in Ed. You're going to have a shortage of teachers with those requirements.

There absolutely are plenty of great teachers without a Master's degree. But I would imagine every single one of them would tell you that it took them around 5 years before they felt they got to "great teacher" status.

A more advanced curriculum that focuses more on HOW kids learn would help cut that number down to 2 years. Teachers are basically taught now that "you'll learn most on the job" which means that the first few years that a teacher is out of school, a lot of students are basically guinea pigs.
 
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Hey fellas! I found his pikchure!!




 

dorndawg

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Mississippi spends a little over 8k per student, which ranks 45th in spending. Seems like there *MIGHT* be a little correlation?
 

dorndawg

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Like I said, some degree of district consolidation is a no-brainer. What do you consider waste?
 
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