Romaro Miller and Allen Walker say on Ole Miss Rivals...

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
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that if they took the game more seriously, they would win.



Romaro Miller
Columnist

I was like everybody else after the game: Upset and disappointed.

It was a major example of having holes in the roster and the huge need to continue to recruit. That's not all it was by any means, but I think that part hit home a little harder after that one than it has in most games.

University of Mississippi
Former Ole Miss quarterback Romaro Miller

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Before the game I told my friends if we go to Starkville thinking we could win just show up we would be in for trouble. It's a different place over there. You can't explain it until you play in it once. They hate us. You have to show up every time and every play. They deserved it. We didn't do what it takes to win down there. We didn't play our game.

There was the hope at halftime that the block maybe woke the team up, but we didn't wake up. Bo Wallace had a tough game, and I know how he feels right now. It's so hard to struggle as a quarterback down there. I threw the pick that lost the game in 1999. You just have to hang in there and be ready next time.

I think we had Mississippi State on the ropes before this one, and we definitely let them off the ropes. It's become such a series about holding serve and with the way we're accumulating talent over them I think winning that game it would have been over, but now we gave them another life and we're going to have to deal with that. It's why the coaches get paid well, to go out and recruit and show that we are Ole Miss and are going to win ballgames.

As for how to handle the rivalry, it's hard because if you poll Ole Miss fans, close to half will say LSU is the rival, and the others will say MSU. At State it's all Ole Miss. It makes for a different game, and it's one we have to handle. We have to be the superior team from a talent standpoint and just go play our game and take care of it.

Coming into the season I said seven wins would be good, but on the backend looking at it once we beat Texas, I think we were in for bigger things. We just have to continue to recruit, nothing against the guys we have now at some spots, they've given great effort, but we have to play better.

With the bowl game, you want to go out a winner. Hopefully they do whatever it takes and end it on a winning note. It's not a huge deal with the overall scope of the program, but if you're out there, winning doesn't hurt.



Allen Walker
Analyst


I don't know if it's the cowbells or what, but it's become obvious that the Mississippi State program makes the Egg Bowl out to be bigger than Ole Miss does.

I think their fans actually hate Ole Miss fans. Ole Miss just don't care for Mississippi State. It's different in Starkville. It's their Super Bowl. If they get any momentum going, they have a chance to win the game. For Ole Miss, it's just another game.

Ryan Moore
Allen Walker makes a stop in the Rebels' 2009 loss at Auburn.

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That wasn't the issue Thursday. Instead, it was more evidence that Ole Miss has problems on the line. Ole Miss was losing one-on-ones up front against Mississippi State. Guys were just getting beat, especially in the interior. Chris Jones for Mississippi State was terrific. If he had been a sophomore or a junior, he would have won every play.

When your defensive line is dominating like that, you can basically just roam around. It's like when you have a cornerback who can cut the field in half. You basically have freedom and confidence.

Big picture, Ole Miss is still improving. I thought they could go 8-4 or 9-3. They went 7-5, but nobody picked Auburn or Missouri to do what they did. Those were two games I had marked as Ole Miss wins. I think now Hugh Freeze is coming into his third year, and now he's got to start going with his players, especially on the offensive line. He's got to play guys he recruited. It's time for position battles to come back up. It can't be a gimme. He's got to open it up and say, "All the spots are up for grabs."

Freeze has got to get his own players. He's got to get better on the offensive line and the defensive line. Ole Miss has got to get more athletic in the secondary. It needs more athleticism and more length and more speed. It needs to get more physical up front on defense. The middle linebackers have to have more speed. Ole Miss has to get faster on the defensive side. I say that after Ole Miss played a really good game on Thursday.

People are hung up on Freeze's play-calling. Nick Saban and Gus Malzahn can make a bad call or two, but they've got so much talent and you can't recognize when they call a bad play. When Freeze calls a bad game or some bad plays, it's more obvious.

I think Ole Miss' players get a good gift package from the bowl they go to. I hope they get to the Music City Bowl. Memphis is too close. Nashville is a better experience. Next year, they'll try to get to another level. That's how a program is built.
 

drt7891

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Same ****, different year. They seriously believe they are on the same playing field as lsu an bama. It bites them in the *** every year they set foot on Scott field since 99.

Also, the "Super Bowl" crap is BS. They rushed te damn field last year. They are our rivals when it's convenient to be, but they really feel we are nothing but their redneck special ed cousin while they play in a different league. Glad we showed them once again that they are full of themselves.
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,409
24,186
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Like I said, two auto-responses from OM fans after an Egg Bowl:

1) Yay we won! The EB is home where it deserves to be!

2) We only lost because MSU hates OM more.

That line (#2) is a defense mechanism for OM fans. If OM fans don't hate us by now, they never will. We've won 4 out of 5 and basically rubbed their face in it for half a decade. Mullen has gotten the better of them, and they only thing they can come up with is 'well, we just don't care about it that much'. ********, but whatever helps you protect yourself from reality.

Also, Miller is just pushing the company BS line: "shift the focus to recruiting where we are out performing them".
 

BigMotherTucker

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Aug 20, 2006
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What is this **** about us hating them but we just annoy them. An Ole Miss fan told me to die in a car wreck on my way home after EggBowl2010. Sounded like hate to me.
 

o_1984Dawg

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Feb 23, 2008
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If they think they lose Egg Bowls because they don't care enough, that sounds like a look-in-the-mirror problem. Crying about us actually caring about the game just makes them look like sore losers. It's not our Super Bowl but it's important. More of our players grow up in MS watching the game and around their arrogant fans. Of course it's going to mean more to them than some 5-star who was five states away flashing bag money on twitter this time last year.
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,409
24,186
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Same ****, different year. They seriously believe they are on the same playing field as lsu an bama. It bites them in the *** every year they set foot on Scott field since 99.

Also, the "Super Bowl" crap is BS. They rushed te damn field last year. They are our rivals when it's convenient to be, but they really feel we are nothing but their redneck special ed cousin while they play in a different league. Glad we showed them once again that they are full of themselves.

^ Nailed it.
 

RebelAlumnus

Heisman
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It was a major example of having holes in the roster and the huge need to continue to recruit. That's not all it was by any means, but I think that part hit home a little harder after that one than it has in most games.

That wasn't the issue Thursday. Instead, it was more evidence that Ole Miss has problems on the line. Ole Miss was losing one-on-ones up front against Mississippi State. Guys were just getting beat, especially in the interior.

Freeze has got to get his own players. He's got to get better on the offensive line and the defensive line. Ole Miss has got to get more athletic in the secondary. It needs more athleticism and more length and more speed. It needs to get more physical up front on defense. The middle linebackers have to have more speed. Ole Miss has to get faster on the defensive side. I say that after Ole Miss played a really good game on Thursday.

That doesn't look like "if we cared more we win." It looks like they both said we need better players, especially on the OL. Your DL beat us up front play after play and allowed your secondary to sit back and not get beat.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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May 28, 2007
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I've never understood the "you wanted it more" or "it's more important to you" or "you hated us more" insult. It's like insulting a billionaire by saying he wanted success more than you. Damn straight we wanted it more and it was important to us.
 

esplanade91

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Dec 9, 2010
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What? Nickoe and Calhoun won that game. Our secondary lit y'all up.

What is it about recruiting that fills the empty void inside Ole Miss fans? "Our non-5 star OL got beat by a 5 star DE and that's why we lost. The number #2 player overall. We need to counter with more 5 stars! Ra ra LSU!"

The two plays that stick out to me when I hear that talentless ******** is Wells and Calhoun coming out around the edge to blow up the bubble, neither which involved us having a good or bad DL. Just got beat. And don't give me the "the DL wasn't giving us anything so we were throwing screens" because that's all y'all did this season no matter your ability to run or throw deep.

Maybe your coaches should just find a better way to balance their time between coaching/drawing up plays and recruiting instead of only worrying about sending letters to kids 2000 miles away to "see what sticks"
 
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MStateFan22

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Aug 30, 2010
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When was the last time MSU stormed the field after beating Ole Miss? I've never seen it. Only been going to games since 2002ish but we've won a few superbowls in that time frame.
 

thunderclap

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Feb 25, 2008
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No ****. Same year I almost got in a brawl in Old Venice after the game...

because OM punks kept walking by our table and telling us to 17 off. But let them keep pretending, that's fine with me.
 

Incognegro

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Nov 30, 2008
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Every time they mention how we aren't their real rivals and that this game means more to us than it does to them makes it evident how much losing this game means to them. Other than LSU, when they lose to any other teams, do they have to bring that excuse up? What was their excuse for when they lost to Vandy? We're the only team that they have to constantly reassure themselves that they just wasn't up for the game. I guess I can understand why they do that though. It can really sting to admit just how badly you wanted something only to see it snatched away from you.
 

BulldogBlitz

Heisman
Dec 11, 2008
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What a pile of shameful tripe. How do recruits read and hear this line and choose to go there? They don't have to come here, but why would you go to a school where the entire team is just going to take the game off because "they don't want it".

The $ must be good.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
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You're not even trying to be taken seriously now. The key to trolling is to be subtle. Leave a little doubt in people's minds as to whether you're trolling or serious.
 

AlCoDog

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Feb 27, 2008
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My wife is from Oxford, and those sonofabicthes care jus as much as we do. They express it everytime I have to go there and see her family. And what the hell would Allen Walker or any OM player or fan know about building a program? None of them were alive when theirs started crumbling 50 years ago, and it sure hasn't been built back up since.
 

muddawgs

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man that sounded like a former Lsu player talking about the Ole Miss game.

that if they took the game more seriously, they would win.



Romaro Miller
Columnist

I was like everybody else after the game: Upset and disappointed.

It was a major example of having holes in the roster and the huge need to continue to recruit. That's not all it was by any means, but I think that part hit home a little harder after that one than it has in most games.



University of Mississippi

Former Ole Miss quarterback Romaro Miller

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Before the game I told my friends if we go to Starkville thinking we could win just show up we would be in for trouble. It's a different place over there. You can't explain it until you play in it once. They hate us. You have to show up every time and every play. They deserved it. We didn't do what it takes to win down there. We didn't play our game.

There was the hope at halftime that the block maybe woke the team up, but we didn't wake up. Bo Wallace had a tough game, and I know how he feels right now. It's so hard to struggle as a quarterback down there. I threw the pick that lost the game in 1999. You just have to hang in there and be ready next time.

I think we had Mississippi State on the ropes before this one, and we definitely let them off the ropes. It's become such a series about holding serve and with the way we're accumulating talent over them I think winning that game it would have been over, but now we gave them another life and we're going to have to deal with that. It's why the coaches get paid well, to go out and recruit and show that we are Ole Miss and are going to win ballgames.

As for how to handle the rivalry, it's hard because if you poll Ole Miss fans, close to half will say LSU is the rival, and the others will say MSU. At State it's all Ole Miss. It makes for a different game, and it's one we have to handle. We have to be the superior team from a talent standpoint and just go play our game and take care of it.

Coming into the season I said seven wins would be good, but on the backend looking at it once we beat Texas, I think we were in for bigger things. We just have to continue to recruit, nothing against the guys we have now at some spots, they've given great effort, but we have to play better.

With the bowl game, you want to go out a winner. Hopefully they do whatever it takes and end it on a winning note. It's not a huge deal with the overall scope of the program, but if you're out there, winning doesn't hurt.



Allen Walker
Analyst


I don't know if it's the cowbells or what, but it's become obvious that the Mississippi State program makes the Egg Bowl out to be bigger than Ole Miss does.

I think their fans actually hate Ole Miss fans. Ole Miss just don't care for Mississippi State. It's different in Starkville. It's their Super Bowl. If they get any momentum going, they have a chance to win the game. For Ole Miss, it's just another game.



Ryan Moore

Allen Walker makes a stop in the Rebels' 2009 loss at Auburn.

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That wasn't the issue Thursday. Instead, it was more evidence that Ole Miss has problems on the line. Ole Miss was losing one-on-ones up front against Mississippi State. Guys were just getting beat, especially in the interior. Chris Jones for Mississippi State was terrific. If he had been a sophomore or a junior, he would have won every play.

When your defensive line is dominating like that, you can basically just roam around. It's like when you have a cornerback who can cut the field in half. You basically have freedom and confidence.

Big picture, Ole Miss is still improving. I thought they could go 8-4 or 9-3. They went 7-5, but nobody picked Auburn or Missouri to do what they did. Those were two games I had marked as Ole Miss wins. I think now Hugh Freeze is coming into his third year, and now he's got to start going with his players, especially on the offensive line. He's got to play guys he recruited. It's time for position battles to come back up. It can't be a gimme. He's got to open it up and say, "All the spots are up for grabs."

Freeze has got to get his own players. He's got to get better on the offensive line and the defensive line. Ole Miss has got to get more athletic in the secondary. It needs more athleticism and more length and more speed. It needs to get more physical up front on defense. The middle linebackers have to have more speed. Ole Miss has to get faster on the defensive side. I say that after Ole Miss played a really good game on Thursday.

People are hung up on Freeze's play-calling. Nick Saban and Gus Malzahn can make a bad call or two, but they've got so much talent and you can't recognize when they call a bad play. When Freeze calls a bad game or some bad plays, it's more obvious.

I think Ole Miss' players get a good gift package from the bowl they go to. I hope they get to the Music City Bowl. Memphis is too close. Nashville is a better experience. Next year, they'll try to get to another level. That's how a program is built.

I think they hear Lsu fans say this so they just turn around and same the same **** when we beat that ***. The thing is, I don't even talk **** to Ole Miss fans when we win. I just enjoy the peace and quiet from the Mother17ers for a year.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
39,457
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I was told to "die in a fire" in 2010. I wonder if my guy and your guy were cousins or something.
 

AlCoDog

All-Conference
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Your constant presence here is an indication that you certainly care

and I know you aren't alone
 

Seinfeld

All-American
Nov 30, 2006
11,161
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I think their fans actually hate Ole Miss fans.

Let me just go ahead and remove all doubt you may have had by stating that I 100%, undeniably, and with out a shadow of a doubt hate every last one of you. I'm almost shameful of the fact that I had nearly forgotten just how much until my wife and I couldn't even walk through the gates of OUR stadium last Thurs night without listening to a group of 6 OM douchebags sing hotty toddy from the top of their lungs while wearing the standard god awful attire that only Rebel fans can put together.

Gaining bowl eligibility was nice, but watching your 17stick fanbase go home angry and depressed was indescribably better. It was almost as if some mad scientist in Oxford had cloned Marshall Henderson and let 3,000 of them lose on Starkville for a day.

Don't waste your time "thinking" about whether we hate your or not. We do... right along with the remainder of the living world
 

Crazy Cotton

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Aug 26, 2012
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So, we are just the better team then, right? We have better players, no?

That doesn't look like "if we cared more we win." It looks like they both said we need better players, especially on the OL. Your DL beat us up front play after play and allowed your secondary to sit back and not get beat.

You can't have it both ways. Either we beat you because of our insane blood lust for ole miss, and you all, the superior team, didn't even know who you were playing until 5 minutes before gametime and just mailed it in, or we are the more talented team, which appears to be the line you prefer.
 

CadaverDawg

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Let me just go ahead and remove all doubt you may have had by stating that I 100%, undeniably, and with out a shadow of a doubt hate every last one of you. I'm almost shameful of the fact that I had nearly forgotten just how much until my wife and I couldn't even walk through the gates of OUR stadium last Thurs night without listening to a group of 6 OM douchebags sing hotty toddy from the top of their lungs while wearing the standard god awful attire that only Rebel fans can put together.

Gaining bowl eligibility was nice, but watching your 17stick fanbase go home angry and depressed was indescribably better. It was almost as if some mad scientist in Oxford had cloned Marshall Henderson and let 3,000 of them lose on Starkville for a day.

Don't waste your time "thinking" about whether we hate your or not. We do... right along with the remainder of the living world



Bravo.
 

The Peeper

Heisman
Feb 26, 2008
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10,605
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Maybe I was taught differently, but, I don't EVER remember going into any ballgame I ever played in no matter the sport or any board game I played against my sister or best friend that I didn't want to win. Who the hell just wants to participate? I hope that if we ever have a head coach that has that attitude that his *** gets run out of town before signing on the dotted line. What they are saying is their staff can't get them to play against us because they don't want to? I don't understand, maybe Hugh "Bucky" Freeze isn't their man or are they just ok w/ mediocrity as long as they beat LSU?
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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Oct 21, 2005
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Glorious. If all else fails... Put the chin in the air and self inflate ego. You mean the game was so small in the fact that you are still dwelling and analyzing 4 days later?

Its awesome watching them try to find some solid ground to stand on in claiming they are just better. Win or lose, there has to be some reason. Any reason. There is is reason right???!?!!?!?!? Let's write a column and call ole Romero to see if it's ok if we put his name on it.
 

uptowndawg

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Jul 15, 2010
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Exactly

They could have won, and most definitely would have done so easily if they had been facing an opponent worthy of their attention. They don't care enough about us rednecks to give us the time of day by preparing for their game, or breaking a sweat during the contest.
 

MSUCE99

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Nov 15, 2005
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That doesn't look like "if we cared more we win." It looks like they both said we need better players, especially on the OL. Your DL beat us up front play after play and allowed your secondary to sit back and not get beat.

What? How can this be? I thought yall won every recruiting championship since 2004, while MSU sucked hind 'crootin teat. How can you possibly need even MORE talent to beat us?
 

DerHntr

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Sep 18, 2007
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How funny would it be to hear Bama fans say that they think Nick Saban and his team lost the Iron Bowl because the game was more important to Auburn? It looks absurd just typing that out. Those fans know how crazy it would be to suggest their own team didn't care enough about winning every single game.

Why OM fans aren't embarrassed to see that type of comment in print is beyond me. They don't realize that this is not a negative thing for State to care about winning the game. Instead, it just shows that they somehow believe it is OK for the OM arrogance to be so pervasive, that supposedly their superior team with superior talent and coaching can, in the minds of fans, take a week off.
 

LavishDawg

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Sep 20, 2012
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Two things I remember about Romaro Miller

1. Of course, the pick at the 99 egg bowl to lose it for his team and
2. Ole Miss fans booing his *** off the field when Eli was a freshman

I'm surprised the guy still likes Ole Miss after all the hatred shown towards him by those same fans.

As for the Walker guy, never heard of him.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
56,857
26,252
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Like I said earlier, if we really wanted that game more than they did, that's a terrible indictment of their team and coaches. Worse than if we'd just beat them with both of us wanting the win.
 

coach66

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Mar 5, 2009
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This was pretty much the ballgame as you point out. Couple that with the fact

we tackled pretty well the entire game and it drove the outcome. I don't know if it is Deshea or not but our secondary has been getting better and better and I like that. Redmond is going to be great, need Shepard to come in and help on the corner and move Cox to safety and we could have a very salty defense next year.
 

thekimmer

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It is a manifestation of the 'why we dont play MS southern' argument.....

I've never understood the "you wanted it more" or "it's more important to you" or "you hated us more" insult. It's like insulting a billionaire by saying he wanted success more than you. Damn straight we wanted it more and it was important to us.

"We only lost because this is just another game to us and this is the only game they care about blah, blah, blah....." The only problem with that argument is we are in the same league, same division, and play basically the same conference schedule. MS southern used to play about two good opponents a year the rest cupcakes.

I suppose though that this makes me look at our previous losses to the golden buzzards in a different light. We should have quit playing those guys long before we did because we have nothing to gain but then we have no excuse for the ones we lost.
 

coach66

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Any Ole Miss fan saying we win because we care more than they do is just being a

Dick and perpetuating their image as elitist. I read a few message boards and would say both fan bases care deeply about this rivalry and to poo poo it is just whistling past the graveyard. They care, ALOT!