On the men's side Fedor dominated the heavyweight division for 10 years with his superb judo and boxing during the Pride heydays of MMA.
Maybe someone posted in earlier in this thread, but Holms said her coaches trained for the majority of moves Rousey had, i.e. knew what locks and moves she was going to do and trained specifically for those. Obviously, every fighter does this, but more so that her coaches trained her how to get out of her famous submission holds, and what strategy to employ.
And meanwhile Ronda was doing movie, modelling, appearances, new boyfriend, and focusing her training on boxing and standing up with a seasoned two-time world boxing and kickboxing champion furiously training to beat her.
unbelievable media hype that would make ESPN and Tim Tebow blush.
Rousey tried to take Holm down and submit her and failed.
Exactly, she got Holm on the ground and couldn't get the armbar and Holm was able to get off the mat. And she tried to clinch a few times and Holm slipped her. Not a "shoot" or throw attempt, but she was trying to get inside and lock up to set up a takedown and Holm didn't let it happenI didnt see that at all. I saw her come out and try to out strike her. Rousey did get a take down but didnt get a submission. That was the only take down attempt I saw from Rousey.
Amused how a lot of the men in my neighborhood (those "men" who hate her for making them feel less masculine) celebrated like her losing made them somehow better.....[pfftt]
Exactly, she got Holm on the ground and couldn't get the armbar and Holm was able to get off the mat. And she tried to clinch a few times and Holm slipped her. Not a "shoot" or throw attempt, but she was trying to get inside and lock up to set up a takedown and Holm didn't let it happen
And Rousey could take Holm down next time, but her ability to throw men around has nothing to do with it. Judo is about using your opponent's weight and momentum against them. Holm's reach and understanding that she needs to keep it on the outside is what negated Rousey's strength in the first place. Sure, she could get thrown, but it would make more sense for her to do exactly what she did this time; keep distance, strike, and defend against shoots
Her ability to throw men around is aided by the fact that they are there for the purpose of her throwing them around. If boxing is a part of MMA fighting, and it is, then she is not the best.