Rooting for Dabo

[18IsTheMan]

Some Clemson folks are expecting Dabo to go public and bring receipts regarding Ole Miss' tampering with the player who had signed an NIL, transferred in, enrolled, attended class and worked out with the team before quitting school and heading to Ole Miss. Everything Dabo said about concerns with using the portal came 100% true. with this situation. Now it's going rampant with the Washington QB, Mensah at Duke, Smith who left us for Syracuse only to go to Ole Miss, LSU poaching Ole Miss players on and on and on.

Other coaches have weakly called out tampering but declined to give specifics...because they are all engaged in it or know they will have to be at some point in the future. Except Dabo. Of all P4 coaches, he's uniquely positioned to be able to name names. He's the only one with clean hands in all this portal/tampering business.

I'm hoping he does. It's the one last shot anyone has to do anything. Expose it. Name coaches. Name players. Give dollar figures.

Swinney is the one last best hope for college football. Like it or lump it.

 

[ThinnyJ]

Nothing is clean about him.... I promise you

 

[USCEE82]

Nothing is clean about him.... I promise you

You know what they say about people who live in glass houses...

 

[Forkcock]

Some Clemson folks are expecting Dabo to go public and bring receipts regarding Ole Miss' tampering with the player who had signed an NIL, transferred in, enrolled, attended class and worked out with the team before quitting school and heading to Ole Miss. Everything Dabo said about concerns with using the portal came 100% true. with this situation. Now it's going rampant with the Washington QB, Mensah at Duke, Smith who left us for Syracuse only to go to Ole Miss, LSU poaching Ole Miss players on and on and on.

Other coaches have weakly called out tampering but declined to give specifics...because they are all engaged in it or know they will have to be at some point in the future. Except Dabo. Of all P4 coaches, he's uniquely positioned to be able to name names. He's the only one with clean hands in all this portal/tampering business.

I'm hoping he does. It's the one last shot anyone has to do anything. Expose it. Name coaches. Name players. Give dollar figures.

Swinney is the one last best hope for college football. Like it or lump it.

You think Dabo's hands are clean and he's the best hope for college football?

 

[Swifty]

While I agree with hoping he does this, it will also be dismissed as sour grapes by many.
It is funny to see climpson fans posting on social media about the SEC (constantly) and how NIL has neutralized how the SEC was paying players. As if the B1G schools weren't already paying players and as if climpson wasn't doing the same thing. Watson grew up in poverty in a house that was donated to his mother from Warrick Dunn's foundation and then he's tripping around cowtown wearing Gucci shoes, etc. Give me a break.

The truth of the matter is that NIL was never supposed to be what it has turned into and the ridiculousness of the transfer portal has poured jet fuel on the dumpster fire. I believe it will settle down eventually, but we all have to watch this $h!tshow unravel for probably another 5 years or so before it levels out to something reasonable and manageable.

 

[18IsTheMan]

You think Dabo's hands are clean and he's the best hope for college football?

He's the lone P4 coach who has had disdain for the portal. Clemson hasn't tampered with anyone b/c they have barely even tried to get anyone from the portal. Dabo only finally did to a very limited extent to satisfy critics. So, yes, he is the single best hope for college football in being the only coach who has the capacity to call out the portal and tampering for what it is. He can name names because nobody can throw mud back on him for tampering.

I don't care what school he's the coach of. We all hate what CFB has become what CFB has become with the portal, NIL and tampering. I'm for any coach who can and will call it out. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

[18IsTheMan]

While I agree with hoping he does this, it will also be dismissed as sour grapes by many.
It is funny to see climpson fans posting on social media about the SEC (constantly) and how NIL has neutralized how the SEC was paying players. As if the B1G schools weren't already paying players and as if climpson wasn't doing the same thing. Watson grew up in poverty in a house that was donated to his mother from Warrick Dunn's foundation and then he's tripping around cowtown wearing Gucci shoes, etc. Give me a break.

The truth of the matter is that NIL was never supposed to be what it has turned into and the ridiculousness of the transfer portal has poured jet fuel on the dumpster fire. I believe it will settle down eventually, but we all have to watch this $h!tshow unravel for probably another 5 years or so before it levels out to something reasonable and manageable.

It could come across looking like sour grapes, except that the issue he's upset about is the same issue so many fans and coaches are upset about: players signing NIL deals and then going somewhere else anyway with no enforcement from the top. This guy for Clemson had a signed deal, had enrolled, had attended classes, had attended team workouts. Then just turned in his laptop, left campus and went to Ole Miss, leaving behind a signed NIL deal.

Everyone is screaming "why won't anyone do anything about this?!?"

As Gamecock fans, we can like it or lump it, but Dabo's extreme reluctance to the use the portal has him uniquely positioned to be the one coach who can call people out for tampering.

Would it ultimately accomplish anything? Probably not. But I'd at least love to see one coach with the stones to go out there and say "This coach at this program tampered with this player. Here's the signed NIL deal we had with this player." Every other coach is afraid to address tampering in any way other than vague implication.

 

[Piscis]

I'm not a Clemson fan at all and I think Dabo is a clown, but I have agreed with him all along about NIL and the portal. I wish he would follow up on his threat from a few years ago when he said he would quit if players started getting paid. He has to have enough money for several lifetimes and it would send a strong message to the college football world if a coach with two recent national championships walked away from the game because of NIL and the portal. Saban leaving wasn't quite as strong a message because he was close to retirement anyway. Dabo is in his prime as a coach.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I'm not a Clemson fan at all and I think Dabo is a clown, but I have agreed with him all along about NIL and the portal. I wish he would follow up on his threat from a few years ago when he said he would quit if players started getting paid. He has to have enough money for several lifetimes and it would send a strong message to the college football world if a coach with two recent national championships walked away from the game because of NIL and the portal. Saban leaving wasn't quite as strong a message because he was close to retirement anyway. Dabo is in his prime as a coach.

Personally, I think Dabo is the only one fit to be the Commissioner of college football. He seems to be the only one who remembers what it's supposed to be about. At least the only one who has been bold enough to say it. Even more bold in his stance than Saban.

I think the only reason he doesn't quit is the same reason many of us fans still stay engaged even though we're disgusted with the state of things: we cling to what the sport used to be.

 

[Rhode Island Dork]

Some Clemson folks are expecting Dabo to go public and bring receipts regarding Ole Miss' tampering with the player who had signed an NIL, transferred in, enrolled, attended class and worked out with the team before quitting school and heading to Ole Miss. Everything Dabo said about concerns with using the portal came 100% true. with this situation. Now it's going rampant with the Washington QB, Mensah at Duke, Smith who left us for Syracuse only to go to Ole Miss, LSU poaching Ole Miss players on and on and on.

Other coaches have weakly called out tampering but declined to give specifics...because they are all engaged in it or know they will have to be at some point in the future. Except Dabo. Of all P4 coaches, he's uniquely positioned to be able to name names. He's the only one with clean hands in all this portal/tampering business.

I'm hoping he does. It's the one last shot anyone has to do anything. Expose it. Name coaches. Name players. Give dollar figures.

Swinney is the one last best hope for college football. Like it or lump it.

 

[Piscis]

Personally, I think Dabo is the only one fit to be the Commissioner of college football. He seems to be the only one who remembers what it's supposed to be about. At least the only one who has been bold enough to say it. Even more bold in his stance than Saban.

I think the only reason he doesn't quit is the same reason many of us fans still stay engaged even though we're disgusted with the state of things: we cling to what the sport used to be.

I think Saban has to really temper his comments because of his ESPN job. He can't be on Gameday lambasting the current state of college football.

I do think Saban is too old to be the commissioner. He is 74 and, even though he appears to be in great health, his tenure as commissioner would necessarily be pretty brief. Dabo has the right idea about what college football is supposed to be, but I'm not sure Dabo's ego wouldn't make him want to be in front of the cameras and in everyone's face all the time if he was commissioner.

I don't think there is going to be a commissioner. The B1G and the SEC aren't going to agree to let anyone tell them what to do.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I think Saban has to really temper his comments because of his ESPN job. He can't be on Gameday lambasting the current state of college football.

I do think Saban is too old to be the commissioner. He is 74 and, even though he appears to be in great health, his tenure as commissioner would necessarily be pretty brief. Dabo has the right idea about what college football is supposed to be, but I'm not sure Dabo's ego wouldn't make him want to be in front of the cameras and in everyone's face all the time if he was commissioner.

I don't think there is going to be a commissioner. The B1G and the SEC aren't going to agree to let anyone tell them what to do.

Maybe it should be Charles Barkley, lol:

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/charles-barkley-explains-ve-screwed-135450781.html

 

[ThinnyJ]

You know what they say about people who live in glass houses...

They can see outside enough to realize he's a slime ball. Didn't even visit his player on a vent in the hospital after overdosing.

 

[Rhode Island Dork]

This thread title makes me sick.

 

[HI Cock1]

Some Clemson folks are expecting Dabo to go public and bring receipts regarding Ole Miss' tampering with the player who had signed an NIL, transferred in, enrolled, attended class and worked out with the team before quitting school and heading to Ole Miss. Everything Dabo said about concerns with using the portal came 100% true. with this situation. Now it's going rampant with the Washington QB, Mensah at Duke, Smith who left us for Syracuse only to go to Ole Miss, LSU poaching Ole Miss players on and on and on.

Other coaches have weakly called out tampering but declined to give specifics...because they are all engaged in it or know they will have to be at some point in the future. Except Dabo. Of all P4 coaches, he's uniquely positioned to be able to name names. He's the only one with clean hands in all this portal/tampering business.

I'm hoping he does. It's the one last shot anyone has to do anything. Expose it. Name coaches. Name players. Give dollar figures.

Swinney is the one last best hope for college football. Like it or lump it.

He's such a moral paragon.

 

[Lurker123]

Some Clemson folks are expecting Dabo to go public and bring receipts regarding Ole Miss' tampering with the player who had signed an NIL, transferred in, enrolled, attended class and worked out with the team before quitting school and heading to Ole Miss. Everything Dabo said about concerns with using the portal came 100% true. with this situation. Now it's going rampant with the Washington QB, Mensah at Duke, Smith who left us for Syracuse only to go to Ole Miss, LSU poaching Ole Miss players on and on and on.

Other coaches have weakly called out tampering but declined to give specifics...because they are all engaged in it or know they will have to be at some point in the future. Except Dabo. Of all P4 coaches, he's uniquely positioned to be able to name names. He's the only one with clean hands in all this portal/tampering business.

I'm hoping he does. It's the one last shot anyone has to do anything. Expose it. Name coaches. Name players. Give dollar figures.

Swinney is the one last best hope for college football. Like it or lump it.

Perused one of their sites. There is apparently a question on if the guy actually signed his NIL deal? He was supposedly in classes and working out with the team.

Fwiw, internet chatter.

 

[Rhode Island Dork]

Perused one of their sites. There is apparently a question on if the guy actually signed his NIL deal? He was supposedly in classes and working out with the team.

Fwiw, internet chatter.

Whatever is bad for that school upstate, that's what I want to happen.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Whatever is bad for that school upstate, that's what I want to happen.

I would pull for Clemson to win a national title if it meant restoring some normalcy to the sport.

 

[gamecock stock]

I don't like NIL, the Portal nor Dabo. But, unfortunately, NIL and the Portal are here to stay. That horse has done left the barn and not coming back. The SEC/BIG conferences will make sure of that. Those two run college football.

I don't blame Dabo for his preferences. Clemson had a helluva advantage prior to NIL. He could tell players to come to clemson and have a great shot to play for the natty. They are one of the few SEC -type schools in a basketball-first conference. Now with NIL, you have money involved. Players are going to go where the money is at. Now, they don't care about a national championship. They look at the short-term, which is money. If Dabo says come play at Clemson for a good shot at the national championship while others are offering bigger bucks, the players will wave at Dabo, with one finger.

Again, I don't like NIL nor the Portal. And I don't blame Dabo. But, he is looking out for number 1. Look at Clemson's recruiting from 2015-2021.
8,10,11,6,9,3.
Look at Clemson's recruiting from 2022-2025:
14, 11, 14 ,23
What changed around the 2021-22 time frame? Hmmmmm?

 

[will110]

I would pull for Clemson to win a national title if it meant restoring some normalcy to the sport.

I thought your first take was bad until I read this one.

No self-respecting Gamecock fan pulls for Clemson in anything, no matter what.

 

[gamecock stock]

I thought your first take was bad until I read this one.

No self-respecting Gamecock fan pulls for Clemson in anything, no matter what.

Yeah, I like 18. I think he is a good SC fan, I don't agree with him on everything. But I think his heart is in the right place. That said, I'd rather be in a coma than pull for Clemson.

 

[Piscis]

Yeah, I like 18. I think he is a good SC fan, I don't agree with him on everything. But I think his heart is in the right place. That said, I'd rather be in a coma than pull for Clemson.

I have to agree with him. If Clemson winning a NC meant college football would return to the sport I used to be so passionate about, it would be worth it to me.

 

[gamecock stock]

I have to agree with him. If Clemson winning a NC meant college football would return to the sport I used to be so passionate about, it would be worth it to me.

I am with you in that I'm not thrilled about college football like I used to be. And as much as I would like to see some changes, the two bullies in the collegiate sports world will not let it happen. I don't like fighting losing battles. The only chance is to go to court. But if it was that easy, the motivation to do it would have happened long before now, There is so much fear that the bullies would take their ball and leave, nobody has the guts to force action.

 

[Piscis]

I am with you in that I'm not thrilled about college football like I used to be. And as much as I would like to see some changes, the two bullies in the collegiate sports world will not let it happen. I don't like fighting losing battles. The only chance is to go to court. But if it was that easy, the motivation to do it would have happened long before now, There is so much fear that the bullies would take their ball and leave, nobody has the guts to force action.

Maybe letting the bullies leave would be the best thing for college football. If the SEC and the B1G got mad and walked away, they would have to create what would basically amount to a JV NFL made up of 34 teams. They would have no choice but to divide those 34 teams into two divisions with two further divisions in each one. They could go their own way and create their own championship.

The rest of college football would be able to move on and realign as they saw fit. Sanity could return to the geographic grouping of teams in conferences. Sometimes, you have to realize a thing has run its course and it's time for it to fade away and for something new to take its place. I think that time is pretty close with what has been college football for the past 130+ years.

 

[gamecock stock]

I have to agree with him. If Clemson winning a NC meant college football would return to the sport I used to be so passionate about, it would be worth it to me.

Just to veer off a little from the topic: What concerns me is that the bully in our neighborhood would leave and not take us with him. It may not seem like it could happen but, it could. Just sayin. That's why Beamer needs to start winning NOW, just in case.

 

[gamecock stock]

Maybe letting the bullies leave would be the best thing for college football. If the SEC and the B1G got mad and walked away, they would have to create what would basically amount to a JV NFL made up of 34 teams. They would have no choice but to divide those 34 teams into two divisions with two further divisions in each one. They could go their own way and create their own championship.

The rest of college football would be able to move on and realign as they saw fit. Sanity could return to the geographic grouping of teams in conferences. Sometimes, you have to realize a thing has run its course and it's time for it to fade away and for something new to take its place. I think that time is pretty close with what has been college football for the past 130+ years.

I made my prior comment before reading your last one.

 

[gamecock stock]

Maybe letting the bullies leave would be the best thing for college football. If the SEC and the B1G got mad and walked away, they would have to create what would basically amount to a JV NFL made up of 34 teams. They would have no choice but to divide those 34 teams into two divisions with two further divisions in each one. They could go their own way and create their own championship.

The rest of college football would be able to move on and realign as they saw fit. Sanity could return to the geographic grouping of teams in conferences. Sometimes, you have to realize a thing has run its course and it's time for it to fade away and for something new to take its place. I think that time is pretty close with what has been college football for the past 130+ years.

That's possible. If it happens, I hope I'm around to see it.

 

[will110]

I have to agree with him. If Clemson winning a NC meant college football would return to the sport I used to be so passionate about, it would be worth it to me.

If Clemson's winning national championships there's nothing left of the sport to be passionate about. There wasn't much worse than watching Dabo crow in 2016 and 2018.

Anyway, there's no going back. No sense putting these positive clemson vibes out into the universe.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

I have to agree with him. If Clemson winning a NC meant college football would return to the sport I used to be so passionate about, it would be worth it to me.

They've recently won a few...what's one more?

 

[18IsTheMan]

I thought your first take was bad until I read this one.

No self-respecting Gamecock fan pulls for Clemson in anything, no matter what.

We are basically dealing with geopolitics now. Sometimes you might have to ship arms to one enemy because they’re fighting against an even bigger enemy.

 

[RL09]

I think Saban has to really temper his comments because of his ESPN job. He can't be on Gameday lambasting the current state of college football.

I do think Saban is too old to be the commissioner. He is 74 and, even though he appears to be in great health, his tenure as commissioner would necessarily be pretty brief. Dabo has the right idea about what college football is supposed to be, but I'm not sure Dabo's ego wouldn't make him want to be in front of the cameras and in everyone's face all the time if he was commissioner.

I don't think there is going to be a commissioner. The B1G and the SEC aren't going to agree to let anyone tell them what to do.

Saban is one the reasons why we have NIL, same as Dabo, both making insane salaries while the kids who risked their bodies get very little in comparison. Some of us complain about the players bouncing from school to school, hell look at the coaches. Many of these coaches, including the great Sabon bounced around for the next shiny ring. The hole thing is starting to smell rotten!

 

[18IsTheMan]

I have to agree with him. If Clemson winning a NC meant college football would return to the sport I used to be so passionate about, it would be worth it to me.

Has counterintuitive visit may be, I was actually rooting for Clemson to be very successful this year because everyone said there was no way they could be without the portal. As it turns out, I guess everyone was right. But it would’ve given me great joy actually to see Dabo shoot a middle finger at the portal.