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No real need to vote.
I wonder how Bautista's teammates really feel about him and I wonder if some of them were secretly rooting for his face to get rearranged like that.
Bautista clearly was not expecting Odor to throw a punch. He needs to learn to keep his fists up going into that. Hope it was worth the suspension that is coming for Odor - I predict 10 to 15 games. Slide was clean, by the way. Right through the bag and stayed low, just the way you teach it.
He must have thought he was safe since he was wearing glasses.
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/watch-rougned-odor-punch-jose-bautista-in-extreme-slow-1776800607
Slide didn't look clean to me at all. Bautista looked to me like he was clearly trying to take Odor down. I'm glad this happened to him, only thing that would have made it better is if Odor would have hit him a second time.
agree. Take out slides like that are complete bullsh## and ought to be cause for immediate ejection and suspensions. You've got guys in a horribly vulnerable position with the possibility of career ending injuries. Play the game and leave crap like that out of it.
Not at all, he didn't make contact with ground until after the bag. Crap slide and he should get suspended as well, they have made that type of slide illegal. Odor will get 3-5 games. There are fight all the time he was one who actually landed a clean shot. Go Rougie!!
The slide was not clean. It was retaliation for him getting beaned.
Just like the pitch that beaned him did not magically "get away" from the pitcher. That pitch was retaliation from last year's crap. Served way way too late in the season. If you're going to take care of business, take care of business.
Just like the pitch that beaned him did not magically "get away" from the pitcher. That pitch was retaliation from last year's crap. Served way way too late in the season. If you're going to take care of business, take care of business.
It was an illegal slide because he didn't touch the ground before the base according to the new rules. That said, in my opinion was only 3/10 on the dirty play scale. I base that on previous slides into 2nd base I've seen that were much more vicious. All Odor had to do was move his right leg out of the way, which he did.
If this happened in a different game with teams that didn't hate each other already, there would be no reaction.
Perhaps but it was very late, they do and it did and it was a badass punch.
Heard M&M on ESPN make a crack this AM about Floyd Mayweather only wishes he could punch like that, or something like that.
Maybe I didn't watch it close enough. but looked to me that Odor was on the bag, not standing behind it and Bautista went through the bag. He didn't try to hit him behind the bag and didn't go left or right of the bag to get him. And Odor hadn't gotten rid of the ball - or if he did, barely -- so not like he slid into him well after the throw. If he had wanted to hurt him, he would have gone into his left (plant) leg which was to the right field side of the bag. Unless a cleat catches, taking out the back leg is usually not going to hurt someone. I guess I'm just old school where any part of the player on the bag is fair game when breaking up a double play - as long as you get down, which he did.
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This. Joey Battered clearly was expecting to get punched because he was about to punch Odor when he got clocked. Slide was obviously illegal
It would have been much better to watch if he had more behind the punch, and it dropped Bautista right in his tracks.
Yeah, Joey wasnt exactly trying to hard to get out of Beltres grasp...... "Dont hold me back (please hold me back)."
Beltre not only separated them, he held Bautista up. He was... let's just say... a little woozy. That's the way fights in sports are. You get a few licks in and you usually get separated before any real damage is done. Otherwise Odor would have laid him out.
This. He was in the process of throwing a punch when he got hit. Plus, obvious dirty slide is obvious.
Illegal slide, yes. Dirty slide, not really. Let's just say it could've been much, much dirtier and he could've really hurt him if he wanted.
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It was a response to your claim he didn't expect it. He squared up, and was winding up himself. Clear as day
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Odor doesn't regret it. The Rangers don't regret it. The fans don't regret it. I was expecting worse. Yes, laughable. Laughing
As a former college level second baseman who was taken out on more than one occasion, sliding hard INTO the bag is taught. Sliding THROUGH the bag is not. At least not when I was playing. Any guy coming into the bag hard that took out my legs, no biggie, it was part of the game. But coming in outside the bag or through the bag... Now we've got issues. That slide by Bautista was late and through the bag. I would have taken issue with it as well.
Bautista is the biggest jackass in baseball. Seeing him get jacked up like that made me laugh. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Just wish the Royals would have done the same to him in the post season last year.
It's interesting that the amount of $ these players' contracts are worth dictates the moral code of breaking up a dp. When I played middle, we expected a dirty slide on a turn if the game was close or a blowout. Some dudes just stay high and in the throwing lanes too, to make a throw impossible.
The last time I recall a player staying high in the throwing lane to 1st, he took a ball to thr sternum. And the last guy who slid into me, enjoyed metal spikes in his calf and quads.
Used to be part of the game, before we all had kids who "must" to wear helmets when they go outside to play on the swingset.
Just an fyi, I loathe Bautista.
Guys have been sliding through second base since forever. Just because it's illegal now, doesn't make it a particularly dirty play. If he had targeted the plant leg, IMO, it would be a dirty slide.
I agree w ya @dinglefritz . IMO that is runner interference. I don't mind a hard slide, but when you slide 3' out of the baseline & don't slide till yur butt hits 2 feet passed the bag, that is beyond a hard slide.
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I find it hilarious when people post "back in the day" posts. You know what else they did back in the day? No weight training and terrible nutrition plans. I would guess players are nowadays 70 pounds of muscle heavier than the cigarette smoking, flabby armed "players" posting how that slide was ok back then. Back then a takeout slide by some 170 pound player was acceptable. Nowadays a 225 pound guy running a 4.5 40 time barreling in at someones knees is way more dangerous.
Let's try and be real. Maybe 10% of players from 40 years ago would be playing today. And most of them would be pitchers.
Let's try and be real. Maybe 10% of players from 40 years ago would be playing today. And most of them would be pitchers.