Rule Changes for basketball

[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

Since it's April and there's no real major sports going on right now, I just wanted to hear your ideas about some rule changes for basketball. I think it'd make the games better by improving basketball skills,discourage thug behavior, and move the game along.

1) Do basketball continuation just like hockey, ie, no call until the opponents touch the ball. That way, if someone has a breakaway nobody can stop play by grabbing on to their jersey. If the opponents commit 2 or more fouls before they touch it again, then so much the better. I just don't like seeing someone not scoring on a breakaway or an open shot because someone bumps them.

2) Instead of five fouls per game, make it three fouls per half. That way, the player won't be punished for some quick whistles early in the game.

3) When a team commits 12 or more fouls, the opponents get to take two shots AND get the ball on the side.

 

[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

Since it's April and there's no real major sports going on right now, I just wanted to hear your ideas about some rule changes for basketball. I think it'd make the games better by improving basketball skills,discourage thug behavior, and move the game along.

1) Do basketball continuation just like hockey, ie, no call until the opponents touch the ball. That way, if someone has a breakaway nobody can stop play by grabbing on to their jersey. If the opponents commit 2 or more fouls before they touch it again, then so much the better. I just don't like seeing someone not scoring on a breakaway or an open shot because someone bumps them.

2) Instead of five fouls per game, make it three fouls per half. That way, the player won't be punished for some quick whistles early in the game.

3) When a team commits 12 or more fouls, the opponents get to take two shots AND get the ball on the side.

 

[patdog]

1. Get rid of the double bonus after 10 fouls and replace it with the International rule that if you get fouled you get the option of taking the free throws or taking the ball out of bounds. A team that's behind late in the game shouldn't get an advantage by fouling.

2. Any fouls outside the 3-point arc is an automatic 3-shot foul (only if the team fouled is in the bonus), or if the team fouled chooses it can take the ball out of bounds.

3. A player must have both feet on the court and in control of the ball to call time out.

4. Adopt the International key, where the key is slanted out the closer you get to the basket.

5. Adopt the NBA rule where no player can draw a charge within 2 feet from the basket.

6. No team can call time out after a clock stoppage until time has run off the clock. No more checking the opponent's defense after a time out and then calling another time out.

7. No time outs can be called by the offensive team on inbounds plays. If the defensive team does a great job of shutting down the inbounds pass, they should be rewarded with the turnover.

 

[fieldman]

Jump balls need to be done NBA style.

Also, there needs to be some kind of semi circle or area around the goal where players cannot take a charge, also like the NBA

 

[mstateglfr]

Since it's April and there's no real major sports going on right now, I just wanted to hear your ideas about some rule changes for basketball.

For college ball:
--Get the NBA Semi Circle under the hoop...NOW! The dumb rule they created this year to address the issue was a terrible one. It was terrible when they made it and it was terrible thru the season. Slap a round line on the floor and be done with it.

--Jump the jump balls. Its called a jump ball for a reason.

--Call a damn foul when one player is on the ground with the ball and an opposing player jumps on him like he is coming off the top ropes!!! No player should be allowed to literally jump and fall on top of another player then wrestle for the ball. Its contact, its a foul.

For the NBA:
--When a timeout is called and the team has the ball under their opponents basket, THEY SHOULD NOT THEN GET TO INBOUND THE BALL ACROSS HALF COURT!!! The team should have to move the ball across half court to then inbound it there. It is total BS to just give them the ball over half court.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

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[basedog]

1) Move the 3 point line, at least 6" but a foot would be better.

2) International lanes.

3) On the 10th foul, have the option of 2 free throws or the ball.

4) Change the shot clock to 30 seconds and take out the 10 second half court rule (like the women).

5) No consecutive timeouts.</p>

 

[DawgatAuburn]

I can go with the charge circle and jumping all jump balls. I would also axe the double bonus and force teams to protect leads by converting one-and-ones. All that crazy stuff about time outs and fouls? No thanks.

 

[RebelBruiser]

I think the NBA has it right on a lot of the things you suggest.

1) Your rule about continuation I don't like, but I do like the idea of treating breakaways as a shooting foul. The NBA I believe calls it a clear path to the basket rule. If you have a clear path to the basket and someone fouls you, even if it's 40 feet from the bucket, it's a 2 shot foul. I like that, because essentially they are taking the bucket away from you with the foul. That's a good rule that should carry over to the college game.

I don't like any of your foul rules.

I do think the charge circle is a needed addition for college basketball. I wouldn't mind seeing the 3 point line backed up again. And I wouldn't mind seeing real jump balls like they do in the NBA rather than alternating possession.

For the people suggesting the elimination of the double bonus, I would like to ask for a stay on that rule until Murphy Holloway's eligibility is up thank you.

 

[patdog]

I really love sitting on my *** waiting for something, AHYTHING, to happen while watching an endless series huddles on the benches and free throws.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

but some coaches use those time outs to set up plays.

I might be in favor of stripping a time out. I mean seriously, there are already eight scheduled time outs during a game at 16, 12, 8 and 4 of each half. Do teams really need an additional five more stoppages?

 

[patdog]

As for setting up plays, do that during the 1st 17ing time out. The old routine of time out, huddle, set up for the inbounds play that you never even had any intention of actually running, time out, huddle, set up for the real inbounds play takes about 5 minutes to play out and NOTHING HAPPENS during any of that time, at least not on the court.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

The basis of the foul rules should be that the fouling team should not be rewarded for a foul. Therefore, the 3 shot foul when committed beyond the arc, the option to take the ball instead of the foul shots (this should include a reset of the shot clock), and the clear path rule should all be adopted. Fouling should not be a strategy. It should be a penalty.

The one not mentioned is that players, if they have not already fouled out, should get an additional foul in each overtime that is played.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

let's not change the rules because people suck at free throws.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

To me, that's like saying the intentional walk should be outlawed and you have to throw strikes to every player. A walk should not be strategy. It should be a penalty. When you walk steroid era Barry Bonds to face whatever pathetic player they had in the four hole in those days, that was strategy, not penalty.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Fouling is only a desperation strategy in hopes that the other team will miss free throws. If they hit the free throws like good teams should, you gain nothing.

 

[RebelBruiser]

On your extra foul rule, I don't know if I'd give an extra foul for every OT period. I'd give one for every other OT period at best.

When you think about it, you get 5 fouls over 40 minutes of play or only 4 fouls in 40 minutes to be able to keep playing, that's 1 foul for every 10 minutes to still be playing. If you commit more than 1 every 10 minutes, you foul out. OT is only 5 minutes long, so I'd make it every other OT you get a foul.

This brings up the question though, what happens to a guy who fouled out in regulation? Is he still out for all the OTs even if he technically would get an extra foul? What about that 6 OT Syracuse-UConn game a year or so ago? If you fouled out in regulation, by the 6th OT you'd be allowed to have 8 total fouls. If you had only 5, all in regulation, how could you justify keeping that guy out?

But at the same time, how could you justify bringing someone back who had already fouled out?

 

[o_1984Dawg]

Getting fouled and MAKING 2 free throws hurts you if you're up 1 at the end of a game. Or even if you're down 3. We all know that. From a fairness standpoint, I don't think teams should ever be forced to take a shot at 2 points when they could have taken a 3, and in those situations either kept their lead safe or tied the game. With that said, I don't know what the best way is to address that (keeping entertainment value in mind), but I'd like to see this business of fouling because you fear a 3-pointer eliminated.</p>

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

A foul is put into games to prevent and unfair advantage. Fouling should never be an advantage within the rules. So when a team is down 3, and the other team fouls to prevent the team from even attempting a 3 point shot, that is a reward for fouling, not a penalty.

If a team is down late in the game and fouls to get the ball back quicker and hopes the other team misses free throws or exchange 3s for 2s, again you are rewarding a foul. The fouled team should have an option to not give them the ball back at that time or shoot 3 shots if they were fouled beyond the arc.

If you do that then it is not a advantage, within the rules, to foul.

There can still be strategy, but there should always be a penalty for a foul.

 

[patdog]

This forces the offensive team to hit their free throws, but also eliminates the certainty that the defensive team currently has that the offensive team can score no more than 2 points from the free throw line.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

players already disqualified in regulation would not get to comeback in OT. I am just talking about that guy with one to go and all of a sudden the game is extended. coaches get more timeouts for each overtime. so even if you did one more foul for every 2 OTs that would be something to adjust for the additional playing time.

 

[Xenomorph]

A team should be given the option of taking the freethrows or inbounding the ball.... at any point in the game, regardless of time on the clock.

In football teams decline penalties all the time when they would put them at a disadvantage.

 

[RebelBruiser]

and I've seen some 2 or 3 OT games turn into something completely different than they were in regulation due to foul outs. I was just bringing up one question that would have to be addressed.

Part of what made that 6 OT game so interesting was watching the guys with 4 fouls make it last for basically another 3/4 of a game without getting another. It definitely makes sense that you should get an extra foul though.

If I were to do it, I'd say that if you go into OT, the first 2 OTs it takes 6 fouls to foul out. The 3rd and 4th OT, it's 7 total. The 5th and 6th is 8, and so on.

 

[RebelBruiser]

but at the same time, it would take away a lot of the entertainment value. You'd see teams with leads basically start milking the clock with 4 minutes to go knowing they could burn 35 seconds every time they touch the ball, and a game would effectively be over once it got under 35 seconds with the leading team having the ball. All the opponent could do is keep fouling and try to steal the inbounds.

 

[seshomoru]

Is four ten minute quarters and a shot clock no longer than 30 seconds.

Bonuses would be true jumps, a charge circle, and international lanes,

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

Now I confess no great knowledge of hockey or it's rules, but I assume throwing punches is against "the rules" as well. And teams do it all the time to gain an advantage.</p>

 

[Eureka Dog]

Stopping the clock after a made basketis a blatant effort to give the trailing teaman advantage. Plus,I'm sick of watching 2 minutes of game time take 10 minutes of real time to play.

(2) Adopt international rules and court layout. Just the rule that allows players to immediately inbound the ball (without the ref touching the ball) after a turnover would speed up the game and create interesting scenarios. The abliity tograb the ball off the rim is also fun to watch.

The onemodification I'dmake is this: Add an on-court official. As the refs rotate each trip down the court, one of the refs should have no other duty than to watch the action in the lane. This would include watching for the, purported to be extinct, 3-SECONDS IN THE LANE violation.

(3) No offensive time-outs during throw-ins.

(4) While we're on throw-ins: Once a team advances the ball into the fore-court, DO NOT ALLOWthat team to throw the ball into the back-court on a throw in (after a non-shooting defensive foul, timeout, etc.).

(5) Eliminate the "Closely-guarded for five second" call. While I like to see good defense rewarded, I don't like this rule for a variety of reasons.

(6) Jumping, falling, etc. on an opposing player (who is already lying on the floor) should always be viewed as a foul. Allowing dogpiles on loose balls is ridiculous.

(7) The game has gotten too rough, start calling things MUCH tighter. Great athletes are able to control their bodies. They will adjust to the stricter enforcement and the game will benefit as it becomes more free-flowing.

 

[dogfan96]

they started doing that in the NBA and now you pretty much can't guard any good offensive player bc EVERYTHING is a foul.. Jordan in his prime would average 40 ppg because he'd be going to the line so much.. now that's not to say that I'm in favor of bringing back the old Knicks/Heat rivalry where the first team to 75 would win the game.. but I'd rather err towards a little too physical than having the game bombarded with foul calls and FTs