Rumor on Barker

BMo643

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Think you are wrong

Which part? Every student athlete has 5 years to play 4. Drew has already used his 1 redshirt year given to every incoming athlete. So when he started last year he basically had 4 years to play 4. Now, like I said he can petition to get a 6th year of eligibility but typically those are granted to kids with extenuating circumstances...i.e. transfers, multiple injuries, etc. Kids are typically only granted a 6th year if they miss multiple seasons for reasons beyond their control and optionally accepting a redshirt year your Freshman year when he was healthy and could have competed would not count in this situation.


12.8.1.5.1 Waiver Criteria. A waiver of the five-year period of eligibility is designed to provide a student athlete with the opportunity to participate in four seasons of intercollegiate competition within a five-year period. This waiver may be granted, based upon objective evidence, for reasons that are beyond the control of the student-athlete or the institution, which deprive the student-athlete of the opportunity to participate for more than one season in his or her sport within the five-year period.


Now, obviously this is the NCAA we're talking about and nothing is set in stone. UK could petition the NCAA and Barker could win another year. My only point is that its unlikely.
 

KapitalCat

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If true...Does it mean that Gunner Hoak will have his redshirt removed? Or will they go with the walkon from Cincy?

IMO...Hoak is the backup. However, if they can get through with Johnson playing all the snaps and Wright getting any needed mop up duties then they will try and keep the red shirt on.
 

51stFan

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Jones was crushed by nasty UK fans on social media. Why would he rethink his decision?

Product on the field in year four will impact recruiting more than anything else. If the program looks like a dumpster fire and Coach is just hanging on because of a bad contract, then recruits should/will be worried.
 

BMo643

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Product on the field in year four will impact recruiting more than anything else. If the program looks like a dumpster fire and Coach is just hanging on because of a bad contract, then recruits should/will be worried.

Exactly. Jones didn't go to Alabama because he thought he would have an easier time seeing the field. If immediate playing time was what he was worried about he wouldn't be at Alabama.
 

JHB4UK

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Jones was crushed by nasty UK fans on social media. Why would he rethink his decision?
because Bama has a true freshmen QB who is dominating this season? and as a smallish dual threat QB is unlikely to leave early, will be a 4 year starter?
 
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Why are we overly concerned about a 6th year for Barker? He is only a RS-soph so he has 2 more years of eligibility before we even start thinking about a 6th.
 
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jauk11

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This couldn't be any more of a fact. You all, think stoops sucks after his QB went down in game 3? Y'all are pathetic. I'm more than ready for the stoops apologists to start saying these things. More than ready. I've never seen a man earn more excuses than stoops and his following of stoops apologists. Just sad how many people accept failure.

So, what is your position in life, I assume you are running for President of the USA, which party should I look for you on the ballot? With the professional lawyer politician and her husband that have already accumulated $156,000,000 in personal fortune without ever having a real job (not sure how much of their $2,000,000,000 foundation they can steal, not yet anyway) and the other too outspoken candidate, (definitely not a politician, and I like that and the fact his party hasn't sold our country down the river to Mexico for their vote)
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So, quit hiding behind your computer, how can we vote for you if we don't know your name?

It would be nice to have a President that knows everything and that is perfect, but I was kind of hoping that we could get someone like you to be our coach for a year or two, probably all the time it would take you to straighten out this decades long mess.

I don't understand why your aren't already there, do you? You do make it all sound so simple.
 

sluggercatfan

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Which part? Every student athlete has 5 years to play 4. Drew has already used his 1 redshirt year given to every incoming athlete. So when he started last year he basically had 4 years to play 4. Now, like I said he can petition to get a 6th year of eligibility but typically those are granted to kids with extenuating circumstances...i.e. transfers, multiple injuries, etc. Kids are typically only granted a 6th year if they miss multiple seasons for reasons beyond their control and optionally accepting a redshirt year your Freshman year when he was healthy and could have competed would not count in this situation.


12.8.1.5.1 Waiver Criteria. A waiver of the five-year period of eligibility is designed to provide a student athlete with the opportunity to participate in four seasons of intercollegiate competition within a five-year period. This waiver may be granted, based upon objective evidence, for reasons that are beyond the control of the student-athlete or the institution, which deprive the student-athlete of the opportunity to participate for more than one season in his or her sport within the five-year period.


Now, obviously this is the NCAA we're talking about and nothing is set in stone. UK could petition the NCAA and Barker could win another year. My only point is that its unlikely.
Pretty sure with a MRS you can get a sixth yr.
 

jauk11

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He probably said he was fine. Lingering back injuires or chronic back pain if thats what it is can be an on again off again thing. Can feel great 95 percent of the time...and then it bites you here and there. Probably bit him hard this week and probably first time he's had a true workup and diagnosis of the issue.

Too bad a whole lot of fans rush to judgement on our young players that are competing against grown men in the SEC, not just grown men but freaks of nature. Looks like we had a few emerging stars in the NMSU game, but not too much written about that.

Three truly epic performances by new talent (we already knew our TE was good), as well as a great performance by our established star.

Some other good performances but these four didn't leave a lot of scraps for the rest of the team, how many yards and TDs did they leave for the rest of the team?
 
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JC CATS

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Too bad a whole lot of fans rush to judgement on our young players that are competing against grown men in the SEC, not just grown men but freaks of nature. Looks like we had a few emerging stars in the NMSU game, but not too much written about that.

Three truly epic performances by new talent (we already knew our TE was good), as well as a great performance by our established star.

Some other good performances but these four didn't leave a lot of scraps for the rest of the team, how many yards and TDs did they leave for the rest of the team?
Our fans judging? Noooo...Looks like we have some emerging stars and we are going to have a banner year. Might even be a record setting year
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Sounds pretty serious, I hope the young man gets well. Long life ahead of him and certainly hope he is able to live a life that doesn't include chronic back pain.
I would guess the redshirt is gonna come off Hoak now.
 

BMo643

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Pretty sure with a MRS you can get a sixth yr.

You can but you have to petition the NCAA and 6th year waivers are rare even in circumstances worse than Barkers. They typically don't grant waivers if you voluntarily gave up a year without having an injury or an extenuating circumstance. Barker could have played his Freshman year and chose not too, he voluntarily gave up that year so it's unlikely he'll be given another year. Basically if you voluntarily redshirt you are agreeing to playing 4 years in 4 years.
 

Johnfarrel

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Latest report: Will be out 3 to 4 weeks. Will not need surgery according to report. Back injured in summer camp and was reinjured in UMSC game.
If injured in camp, he was probably hampered in the first two games of the season.
 
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Feel bad for the young man. Missing the chance to start in a big game against the team that almost signed him. Hope he returns quickly.

Hes been a totally selfless man and a steady leader from day one - even during recruiting process. Mature and wise beyond his years.
 

UK90

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Hes been a totally selfless man and a steady leader from day one - even during recruiting process. Mature and wise beyond his years.

Wait a minute ...isn't this the same guy whose reputation has been hit by some stories of off field drama/drunken escapades in his first couple years here?

And, fwiw, I'm not trying to bash Drew--lord knows many of us (including myself) had similar issues when we were his age--but the hyperbole some posters come up with eulogizing injured players can be comically over the top at times (especially if the player is a white kid from the state of Ky).

I like Barker, but let's be honest, he has NOT yet earned a reputation as one "wise and mature beyond his years", but instead one more akin to that of the typical immature college student his age still learning his way while making some mistakes.
 
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Grumpyolddawg

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because Bama has a true freshmen QB who is dominating this season? and as a smallish dual threat QB is unlikely to leave early, will be a 4 year starter?

Or be replaced by a new OC if Kiffin decides to leave. Bama's qb isn't some great passer and he isn't on the level of Watson, Jackson or even Kelly ad a dual threat qb. But he doesn't have to be on their level for Bama to be very good, he just has to protect the ball. Of course if Kelly hadn't got to feeling so good about himself OM would have beaten Bama for the 3rd time in a row this year.
 

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Wait a minute ...isn't this the same guy whose reputation has been hit by some stories of off field drama/drunken escapades in his first couple years here?

And, fwiw, I'm not trying to bash Drew--lord knows many of us (including myself) had similar issues when we were his age--but the hyperbole some posters come up with eulogizing injured players can be comically over the top at times (especially if the player is a white kid from the state of Ky).

I like Barker, I'm cheering for him, but let's be honest, he has NOT yet earned a reputation as one "wise and mature beyond his years", but instead one more akin to that of the typical immature college student his age still learning his way while making some mistakes.

Quit trying to bash Drew. He hasnt had off field issues. His "escapades" were blown out of proportion by the liberal media. He is absolutely much wiser and more mature than the average college student.
 

UK90

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because Bama has a true freshmen QB who is dominating this season? and as a smallish dual threat QB is unlikely to leave early, will be a 4 year starter?

With a redshirt year, he'll have at least two years of eligibilty after Hurts is gone. I doubt Jones had any illusions about starting for Bama before his junior year anyways.

And, fwiw, I seem to recall that Jones credited Shannon Dawson with recruiting him to UK, and Dawson is now gone (and doing quite well with that USM offense, btw). Even if Jones were to do another flip, it would not be to come here. That bridge is burned.

Frankly I'm not sure why any current highly rated QB would want UK when you look at what's become of the others we've landed in recent years (Morgan Newton, Patrick Towles, Ryan Mossakowski, Barker, etc.). UK football and 4 star QBs just don't seem to get along.
 
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