Rumor on Ole Miss's capital campaign...

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dawgstudent

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is that they will announce expansion to 75K. No clue on the timetable but that along with the basketball arena is part of the announcement.

I think they are going to talk to some guy from the UMAA about it on Head to Head this afternoon a little after 5. Also, Jack Cristil is supposed to be in studio according to their website.
 

dawgstudent

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is that they will announce expansion to 75K. No clue on the timetable but that along with the basketball arena is part of the announcement.

I think they are going to talk to some guy from the UMAA about it on Head to Head this afternoon a little after 5. Also, Jack Cristil is supposed to be in studio according to their website.
 

dawgstudent

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is that they will announce expansion to 75K. No clue on the timetable but that along with the basketball arena is part of the announcement.

I think they are going to talk to some guy from the UMAA about it on Head to Head this afternoon a little after 5. Also, Jack Cristil is supposed to be in studio according to their website.
 

dawgstudent

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is that they will announce expansion to 75K. No clue on the timetable but that along with the basketball arena is part of the announcement.

I think they are going to talk to some guy from the UMAA about it on Head to Head this afternoon a little after 5. Also, Jack Cristil is supposed to be in studio according to their website.
 

RebelBruiser

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I'd be curious to see the plans for 75K.

I would've guessed closer to 70K. Our SEZ expansion took us from just over 50,000 to a little over 60,000. The old SEZ was larger than our current NEZ bleachers, so we ultimately gained more seats by bowling it in. If we're looking to add 15K to the current layout by bowling the NEZ, maybe they are looking to add more seats to the upper level than they did in the SEZ. We'll see. I also heard rumors that they are looking to get more of a consistent feel with the entire stadium, as opposed to the SEZ looking so much different than the two sidelines.

I'm just glad to see these projects getting kicked off. The two things we really need are to close in the stadium and build a new bball arena. We're going to see both within the next 5-6 years most likely, which is very encouraging.
 

aTotal360

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What the Rebs think of this? Do they really think ADDING seats to an already vacantstadiumis a wise investment?
 

scrapdawg

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Also, glad to know the fundamentals of supply and demand are still being taught up there.**
 

RebelBruiser

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That's only including 7,500 student tickets as well. We could bump that number a few thousand to increase our tickets sold, but we've got some room for growth.

Plus, you don't expand for today. You expand for tomorrow. When we expanded to 50,000, we were barely averaging more than 35,000 in our 42,000 seat stadium. The next year, we filled up the 50,000 more often than not. Same thing when we went to 60K.
 

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Still a good goal and campaign. From what I've read the Basketball Arena is in the Feasability/Master Plan phase. I don't know if the Stadium expansion is more than an idea and a few renderings to help raise money at this point. If the Basketball Arena is going to be as large and multi-purpose as stated that'll be a huge undertaking.

You've still got to make plans for Demolition of the Tad Pad, finalizing a program, schematic design approvals, yada yada yada. If you started in earnest with a Conceptual Design you're looking at almost three years just to break ground. Assuming it'll be as complex as advertised. With AEcon I'm not sure how much of a real 'design'will be released tomorrow. I'm thinkingit'll be more like a programmatic document. Lot's of research and less eye candy. Whatever eye candy you see is just fluff at this point anyway. Something toget the masses excited. The research is what's really important right now.

The Capital Campaign will last no less than a year. But you could have funds in hand to pay design fees so that wouldn't necessarily slow you down. Either way it sould be a big undertaking and I'm sure the Design and Construction Industry will be ready to accomodate anything y'all need in this economic climate.
 

jacksonreb1

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building an actual, real IPF and we're following you. gotta love it. and for the record, our NEZ will be open for buisness before your stadium expansion. don't know it for a fact but i believe our announcement tomorrow will include actual timetables....that means we'll say "when" rather than some nebulous time in the future.
 

scrapdawg

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Whatever dude looks like ol' pete still has a hold on the masses... Good luck with that.
 

aTotal360

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there is an ever growing contingency of people that have the desire to watch ****** football.
 

champ.sixpack

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You would have to if you wanted it to be completed before our expansion. For some reason, I highly doubt that.
 

EAVdog

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I've seen this like a hundred times in the last week. We are building a Football only office/weightroom/film room facility. We are satisfied with the Palmeiro Center for now. We can practice out in the heat and rain a little if need be.

And frankly unless your IPF looks like the New York Jet's IPF (which it doesn't) you're bragging about a pre-fab metal building. That's like saying my outhouse is awesome. It's the lowest cost per square foot of any athletic facility!
 

00Dawg

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75k ain't for tomorrow. That's for 2020. You're at 90% capacity in a 62.5k stadium, and even in the 2009 season had the same attendance. I'm a build-it-they-will-come kind of guy, but all you're asking for here is 8-10k more empty seats.
About the only positive I could see is the notion that construction costs are gonna skyrocket (and I don't think they are for a long time). I remember LT complaining around 2005 or so about how much construction costs had gone up since our 2000 expansion start. 'Course, if he'd waited until late 2008.....

Meanwhile, bowling in the other endzone is a fine goal, but y'all should be concentrating on aesthetics, amenities, and luxury seating, not overall capacity.
 

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I was going to respond, but I think othershavealready made the point I would have made. Good luck with your tired *** coach and your shitastic AD.</p>
 

dawgstudent

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our football expansion/facility upgrades are out of necessity. We only seem to expand when things are going well and we literally don't have any more room for fans to attend games. It's rare you hear of a stadium expansion coming off a 4-8 season.

This capital announcement is, I believe, in direct response to what State is doing. Just like the 100 things in 100 days thing.

And our football facility - Mullen has been quoted as saying this is more for recruiting than anything else. He has said on recruiting trips - when parents and grandparents come - it's not the best thing to show here are the offices - let's go to another building where they will train - and another building where they will study. He wants it all under one roof. No doubt y'alls IPF is great.
 

RebelBruiser

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Luxury seating is not a problem, and if I'm correct on this, I believe aesthetics are going to be a part of the expansion/update plans.

When was the last time you've been to our stadium? I would wager that we have the largest percentage of luxury seating compared to overall capacity out of just about any college stadium in the country. That said, more luxury seating, I'm sure, will be a part of the expansion plans, otherwise we wouldn't be doing it.

Also, for those worried about us being able to fill it up, maybe we will increase our student ticket allotment from 7500 to somewhere around say 11,000, to help fill some of those empty seats.

As to the talk about the basketball arena, talks have been going on about the arena for over a year now. I don't know what the timetable will end up being, but they've said it could be the 2015-16 season at the earliest, which is where I got 5-6 years from. I'm assuming that we would be able to complete the NEZ expansion in a shorter timetable than a multipurpose arena.
 
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They will be pushing 100k on gamedays if they count the bathroom attendants and the colonel rebs in the grove on gameday...

Also, I have been meaning to ask. Will the bathroom attendants be wearing white gloves? So, that the black men won't actually be touching the stuff y'all touch?
 

dawgstudent

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Also, for those worried about us being able to fill it up, maybe we will
increase our student ticket allotment from 7500 to somewhere around say
11,000, to help fill some of those empty seats.
You need more than 10,000 students for that.
 

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MSUbuilt a 50-yard indoor practice facility in the Shira Fieldhouse in 1974.

Fast forward 30 years to 2004: MSU built the Palmeiro Center, which contains a full football field,to complement the 50 yard field in Shira. That same, yearUM built its first IPF.

That said, it was Ole Miss that was late to the party on IPFs. MSUhas no need to build anotherIPF with the 2 it already has on campus. Just trying to set the record straight.
 

RebelBruiser

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but we don't need more than 10,000 students to fill up 55,000.

ETA: Since this thread has regressed into a daily dick measuring contest, I figured I might as well jump in 100%.

I'll throw in one more thing. All the angst and snide comments about our potential expansion are solely based in the fact that you just got done announcing an expansion that would push your capacity to roughly equal what we have today, possibly even a little bit larger, and it ticks your fans off that we would come back and make an announcement to expand our stadium to a much larger number not long after you caught up.

It's no different than the dick measuring competition and the angst created with the video board deal a few years ago. That's what it's all about, and I get it. Ultimately, it's not like either fanbase can say that the other fills up a stadium better. When we're having success, we're packing our stadium out. Likewise, when we're not, you can find plenty of seats. Same can be said for MSU, so I don't get the high and mighty garbage coming from so many people in this thread, especially considering that we've actually out-paced MSU in season ticket sales this year, despite the fact that we sell 3500 fewer student tickets and despite the fact that we're coming off a 4-8 season, while you're pre-season Top 20.

It's ludicrous to have to pretend we're somehow unable to pack a stadium, just because we're announcing an expansion.
 

EAVdog

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College Football is huge right now. Putting in more seats probably won't be this cheap for a long time to come. Better hurry and get the funding before the market gets any more FUBAR.

Seriously, I hope we build as big an addition as we can. I think planning for future expansion and building in the structure and footings etc... is a very smart move.
 

dawgstudent

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to announce a stadium expansion when you didn't fill your stadium last year and were 4-8. That's a testament to your alumni who still give even if you are ******.
 

jacksonreb1

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and palmero doesn't even have a full size field does it? but seriously i've not seen drawings but for 25 mill your new one will be nice. trouble with facilities is like ours is thatin a few yrs, the arms race passes you regardless of what you build.
 

dawgstudent

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for 50 yards of football but it's a full football field. The other half is lined for baseball but they use it.
 
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