Rumor that UGA may get the Peach. selling ads...

JxnDawg39211

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I thought that too.A 6-6 team could get picked over a 7-5 team, but not an 8-4 team . Or a 7-5 team could get picked over an 8-4 team , but not a 9-3 team. The only other team that could go to Atlanta would be Florida, but that would put us in JAcksonviile at the Gator..right?</p>
 

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It was a rule under the old system (pre-Gator), but no one knows if it carried over to the new system. The rule is specifically mentioned for the Capital One Bowl, but not for any other bowl, which makes me think it only exists for the Capital One Bowl (otherwise, why specifically call it out for that one bowl?).

There's an NCAA rule that no 6 win team can be picked before teams with winning records, but officials are on record saying that doesn't apply as long as the winning record team is guaranteed some bowl game.

Anyway, the Peach Bowl has a blog, and last week they picked SC, MSU and FL as their top 3 candidates. Presumably FL is out for losing to FSU, so it's SC if their still available, us if not.
 

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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="headline" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: 700; font-size: 28px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">MSU's Chick-fil-A Bowl chances strengthened</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">
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</span><div class="wrapContainer" style="width: 677px; float: left; border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="byline" style="text-transform: uppercase; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-size: 12px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; ">DAVID MILLER</span><span class="byline_lcase" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-size: 12px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; ">(contact)</span>
<span class="dateline" style="text-transform: uppercase; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-size: 12px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; ">NOVEMBER 28, 2010 1:24:00 AM</span><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">Mississippi State's 31-23 win over rival Ole Miss not only snapped a two-game losing streak, but helped catapult the Bulldogs to front-runner status for Chick-fil-A Bowl.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">The New Year's Eve bowl game, which is held in Atlanta, Ga., has tie-ins to the Southeastern Conference and the Atlantic Coast Conference.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">Though final bowl selections won't be official until conference championships are completed next Saturday, Chick-fil-A bowl representative Jack D'Arcy said MSU's credentials make it one of the favorites to travel to Atlanta.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">He pointed to MSU's last bowl trip in 2007, when through an overwhelmingly pro-MSU crowd helped set a Liberty Bowl record of 63,186. MSU also helped sell-out the 1999 Cotton Bowl in three days and was last in the Chick-fil-A Bowl in '99, when it beat Clemson 17-7.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">MSU has sold-out each of its seven home games this season and set a year-long attendance record for the second straight year.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">"I cannot say without the authority of the committee, but I believe that's probably a fair assessment," D'Arcy said of MSU's front-runner status. "You look at how they've traveled in the past, and you know they're going to travel well.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">"Usually, we're looking for a team that's finishing on a high note and has been competitive in most of their games -- like the Arkansas game next week. All those are pluses."</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">Still, a lot can change in the next week as the Chick-fil-A Bowl is behind the CapitalOne Bowl, Outback Bowl and Cotton Bowl in the selection pecking order. In addition, the Bowl Championship Series has an automatic tie-in to the Sugar Bowl. As has been a trend in recent years, the SEC could end up with one team in the national championship game and one in the Sugar Bowl following Arkansas' win over LSU and Auburn's win over Alabama, which preserved its undefeated record ahead of the SEC title game next Saturday. And if South Carolina beat Auburn in the SEC title game, the bowl selections process could be further complicated.</p><div id="google_ads_div_sports_article_body_inarticle_468x60"><ins style="width: 468px; height: 60px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; display: inline-table; position: relative; "><ins style="width: 468px; height: 60px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; display: block; position: relative; "></ins></ins></div><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; "></p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">"You could conjecture all you want to, but that would put them in the BCS, then pick between Auburn, Arkansas, LSU and Alabama," D'Arcy said. "Then the next three teams in the (SEC) West versus whomever in the East."</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">South Carolina is the SEC East champion, but the division is suffering through a down year with one ranked team and three with six losses or more.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">Should Auburn win the SEC title, the Bulldogs will be behind Alabama, LSU, Arkansas and South Carolina in the current SEC bowl order.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">D'Arcy stressed that all bowl contracts differ, but its typical for most bowl contracts to protect a team with a one-loss record right down the pecking order.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">He added the Chick-fil-A Bowl negotiated to be higher in the pecking order and didn't get it, which allows its selection committee more flexibility.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">"We want the best matchup possible," D'Arcy said. "What we do is, we've had such tremendous games and the best atmospheres than any bowl game. We try to match Team A versus Team B that will bring it and have that electric atmosphere. We know that MSU will bring a good crowd."</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">Other bowl possibilities for MSU include the Gator Bowl and Music City Bowl.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">As for the ACC tie-in to the Chick-Fil-A Bowl, the selection committee usually has the first pick after the BCS selections. Virginia Tech and Florida State will play for the ACC title.</p><p class="article_text" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 22px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">"We're not bound to take the loser," D'Arcy said. "We could take the third-place team."</p></div><p style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="author_short_bio" style="font-style: italic; text-align: justify; font-size: 12px; font-family: Times, serif, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; ">David Miller is a staff reporter for The Dispatch who primarily covers Mississippi State sports.</span></p>
 

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its not in writing, but he has a source ortwo indicating that a committee member(s) is(are) considering vaulting UGA over us. Supposedly has to do with changing how they want to sell next year's Boise St - UGA game - they are looking at selling it as a package with the bowl game, whatever that means.

Georgia board says Kevin Butler (former UGA kicker) is on the selection committee and that at least of last night, UGA was not even an option being considered by the committee. So we'll see.
 
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ">Kevin Butler is on the selection committee for the CFA Bowl and he said over and over last night on the DawgTalk show that UGA would NOT be selected for CFA bowl. UGA hasn't even been mentioned.</span></div><div>
</div>http://www.dawgrant.com/rant/MessageTopic.asp?p=969797
 

mstatefan88

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There is no new system. All we did was drop the Independence and add the Gator. They simply can't get a bowl ahead of us, period. It's in the rules. The only thing that was changed about the rules was the +1 for the BCS Championship game. It clearly states a team with 2 more wins that another bowl eligible team can't be overlooked by a bowl for the team with 2 fewer wins.
 

Hanmudog

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My personal Outback ban will pale in comparison to all the chicken sandwiches I will be giving up.</p>
 

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At least, it seems like that to me. That goes to **** if they take a 6-6 team. I don't see them making that mistake.

Also, won't it sell out regardless if it's us or Georgia? Especially if the opponent is Florida State.If so, where is the upside for picking Georgia?</p>
 

ckDOG

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In a nutshell, the "rule" doesn't allow for a 6 win team to trump an 8 win team. If that's the case, we should be in good shape when it comes to UGA. However, if it's not in writing and it's just a spoken rule or written "guideline" that is communicated to the SEC programs, then I wouldn't be surprised if Slive was doing his best to make sure whatever this "rule" isn't applied here...
 

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if not, then you don't know the rules any better than the rest of us. and it's NOT a rule in any official public statement. at this point, until an official says otherwise, it's just an urban legend that they can't pick a team with 2 more losses.

by the way, they DID change the system. the Peach used to be locked into the #3-#5 team that the Outback and Cotton did not select. that system was removed. the Peach can now pick whoever they want after the Outback and Cotton picks.
 

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i don't see any way the written rule referenced wouldn't apply equally to 7 and 8 win teams. it only mentions 6-6 teams and teams "with winning records".

as i said at the time, if it's not in writing then it's not a rule, it's a suggestion.</p>
 

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Especially now that they've added the spicy chicken sandwich and added cheese on their deluxe sandwich. I just can't give that up. I won't give that up.
 

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I won't feel confident about it until we get an invite or somebody produces legitimate documented rules saying we can't get leap frogged by a 6 win team. I'm not suggesting they don't exist, but I haven't seen anything yet. Given our current predicament with the SEC office, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't let the Peach Bowl pick us if they (the Peach Bowl) thought the UGA Peach/Boise ticket combo is more financially attractive to them.

Life is going to suck without chicken biscuits...
 

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Source is Wikipedia<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>so take it for what it's worth:<div>
</div><div>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_bids_to_college_bowl_games</div><div>
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teams. Many bowls also have contingency contracts to offer spots to other specific conferences should their first choice not be eligible. If any slot cannot be filled by a contracted conference at all, then the spot becomes open, and the bowl can offer the slot to any eligible team.<p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; ">To be eligible, a team must not have a losing record in the FBS. If a school plays 12 games, they must have at least six wins to qualify. If a school plays 13 games, they must then have at least seven wins to qualify. A rule change for 2010 allows bowls to tender a bid to any team with a 6-6 record before teams with more than six wins. Previously, a bowl with an at-large bid to fill was required to select the remaining team with the best record over a 6-6 team that would have been more financially attractive in terms of bringing more fans to the respective bowl. The contracts specify that the bowl receives a certainchoiceof teams, and this choice is typically not predicated on end-of-season rankings....</p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; "></p>
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after all the talk this morning about the peach bowl i just bought two plane tix from western colorado to atlanta and made hotel reservations and got my tickets off of stubhub. if we go somewhere else I will be in a world of hurt when the dear little wife sees the charge card from this morning!
 

Hanmudog

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If they are going to do it that way then they might as well name the bowls "The Whatever School is Closest Bowl". In effect, it would be like saying that MSU has 2 options either the Liberty Bowl or the BCS championship game.
 

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That any team with a winning record must be placed in a contracted bowl before a team with 6 wins. So if the Chic fil a Bowl is going to pass on us, they can't select Georgia until we've been placed into another bowl game. Same goes for UK and TN. So technically all of those bowls could pass on us and we could end up in Birmingham if Chic fil a, Music City, and Liberty all passed on us. I just don't see this happening. We will travel extremely well to Atlanta, and I just don't see them passing up an 8 win MSU team for a 6 win Georgia team.
 

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So if I understand what you are saying (if you are right), then the Chick Fil A could pass on us, but then the Music City could say yes we want them. Then once we are off the board, and presuming Florida is in the Gator, then Georgia could go to the Peach, UT to the Liberty and UK to Bham?

That sounds way too likely.....
 

FlabLoser

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...except IIRC, we had 3 more wins than UGA instead of just 2 more wins like we have today.
 

MaverickAG

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I don't imagine they would be happy passing on 8-4 MSU and being stuck with UK because UGA was going to Bham. I know we are MSU fans but damn, I would be very surprised if this actually happened.
 

mstatefan88

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And technically, the Music City, and Liberty could pass on us, and we could end up in Bham. That won't happen, but under the rules it could. This is complete ********. That is probably what's going to happen too. We will end up in Music City and Georgia will go to the Chic-fil-a Bowl. If that happens, we can add another bowl to boycott because that's just wrong.
 

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Officials are on record saying that rule doesn't apply as long as there's still a tie-in bowl for the slighted team to go to. Though they did say it applied to 8 win teams, but not 7 win teams. Yes, it did not make sense.

Besides, supposedly that rule was removed for 2010, if you want to beleive wikipedia.

it all depends on what's in the contract, and if the Chick Bowl would really rather have Georgia than us bad enough to threaten to sue the SEC, etc. it's the latter, and only the latter, that i think puts us in Atlanta, unless Slive actively encourages the Chick to screw us.

Things like this is why i miss Veazey. he'd have already gotten quotes from officials on the matter. Marcello sucks.
 

boomboommsu

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The Outback gets first choice ofEast teams, and the Cotton of West teams. It's a special circumstance written into the contracts. It's a snub, but it was understood at the time to be an exception to win-loss records.
 

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our defense would have had Brees flat on his *** every other play. They didn`t want that kind of game.
 

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but i seriously doubt it with LSU and SCAR out there hanging around. Also the SEC has 10 bowl eligible teams. Wow. And only nine bowl tie ins. Auburn better make the NC game or there will be an SOL 6-6 team.
 

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Supposedly the Outback has expressed interest to Strickland after the Egg bowl, and they want to talk about the possibility. Obviously, I still see this as a long shot given their history regarding state and the fact they would have to snub a 9-4 S. Carolina (assuming they lose).