What a heartbreaking story
http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/24/n...-girl-her-final-wish-shortly-before-she-dies/
http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/24/n...-girl-her-final-wish-shortly-before-she-dies/
Russell Wilson is a class act
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I'm not diminishing it. It's a nice thing he did. It's not a nice thing he does when he says God helps him win football games. In fact I would think the people most pissed off when he does that would be believers in God. Someone that says God helps him win football games is being more demeaning to believers than is someone that says they don't believe God exists.
ETA: By the way, as far as being angry goes, tell me about your experiences of having to live life in the closet as a believer. We'll compare notes.
I don't know why believers would be angry about that. You're talking about an omniscient, omnipresent being. Theoretically, helping Russell Wilson on Sunday afternoon shouldn't impact God's ability to help anyone else do anything.
Having said that, many years ago I heard a comedian talking about post-game interviews. He pointed out that the winners often credited God for the outcome, and the losers blamed themselves. He said that just once he wanted to hear, "Well, we were in that game until Jesus made me fumble."
The point isn't the helping a football team win taxes God's abilities, rather that saying that God spents Its time determining the outcome of football games trivializes God and that the idea that God especially wants your team to win is self-aggrandizing. It's basically saying "God likes me better than the other guy."
You're free to chime in too on your experiences living life in the closet as a Christian. Christians sure seem to enjoy judging others who've path they've never had to endure despite that "Judge not lest ye be judged" bit in the Bible.
I didn't demean him for what he did with a dying child at all. As you know. Hate is a terrible thing to live with, as I'm sure you can attest. I did put him down for trivializing God though since it's silly to believe in an omnipotent Creator of the Universe and then ascribe to him events like the outcome of a football game.
I don't think it's a big sacrifice to do what he did though. If you could make a dying child feel really happy for awhile don't you think it would make you feel good?
Where I feel a bit sorry for Russell Wilson though is that for every one he does like in that story he probably has to pass up a half dozen because if he took all the requests he got to help sick kids and whatnot he'd have time to do nothing else. So when he does do one he probably thinks about the others he couldn't do and feels bad.
You sure do have that victim **** down to a tee. An atheist living in the closet is laughable and demeans the struggles gays have faced for something they were born into and not a choice. Cut the ****, link me a story where an atheist was beaten to death by a gang of Christians just for not believing in a God. Unless you grew up in Saudia Arabia enough with the living in the closet ****. If you were scared to speak out its only because you lacked testicular fortitude. Weak willed individual. Epitome of what conservatives see liberal white men as.. I bet you are henpecked and drive a minivan. Wife probably dresses you.
Actually Christians are instructed to judge those inside the church or those claiming to be Christians. In the same breath they instructed not to judge those outside the church. Those outside of a relationship with Jesus Christ are to be judged by God. So only those who claim to be followers of Christ should be judged by the church. In verse 9 Paul is speaking to those who are doing those things within the church. Verse 12-13 speaks of those outside the church.
1 Corinthians 5
9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.
12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”[d]
The thread is about Russell Wilson. I just noted how its obnoxious for Wilson to say that God helps him win football games. I'm not the only one to do that this week, Aaron Rodgers did it too after the Packers beat the Seahawks, and Aaron Rodgers is a Christian.
Okay then, I'm outside the church and the people in this thread inside the church are judging me, do me a favor and tell them to stop.
Says the guy that gets pissed off about every topic conceivably connected to politics up to and including the Pope saying the rich should help the poor.
I didn't say you were in the church. You posted stuff saying people in the church are supposed to judge others in the church but not those outside the church. I'm outside the church so those in the church aren't supposed to judge me. So tell them that, regardless of whether you're in the church.
He's not a fan of trickle down. I don't think that necessarily implies he's a socialist.
As for whether socialism helps the poor, I think that's up for debate. A lot depends on the degree of socialism, but a higher degree of socialism equals higher tax rates. I think that a reasonable argument could be made that socialism helps the poor, but the trade off is a flattening of the middle due to the increased taxation needed to support.
I posted no such thing. I merely said "The glory goes to Him" which is absolutely true for anyone of faith. I have no faith and therefore I earn all of my glory. I think you are throwing faux victim status out there to justify your intolerance of another person's faith. You are cloaking your bigotry in being a victim. Classic liberal tactic. You have it down.
He is from Argentina originally I believe and very much believes in the redistribution of wealth.
wvpack posted #18 and I responded to him in #22. You responded to me in #27 and I since I had already responded to him I assumed it was him responding back to me instead of someone else.
The Pope is far more than just being against trickle down economics:
But now Pope Francis seems to be embracing a condemnation of capitalism instead, and an embracing of socialistic principles. Here are some statements from his text on Tuesday:
Today everything comes under the laws of competition and the survival of the fittest, where the powerful feed upon the powerless. As a consequence, masses of people find themselves excluded and marginalized:
… some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system.
One cause of this situation is found in our relationship with money, since we calmly accept its dominion over ourselves and our societies. The current financial crisis can make us overlook the fact that it originated in a profound human crisis: the denial of the primacy of the human person!
While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control. A new tyranny is thus born…
So Francis believes that capitalism, which defends the right to a free market system, is to be discarded, while the right of states, “charged with vigilance for the common good,” to exercise control over the economic status of the people, is laudable.
You may want to ask the Venezuelans if socialism helps the poor. I can't think of a country where the state controls the means of production where the poor are better off than the U.S. poor. In Europe, we generally have democratic socialistic countries, very high taxes but the government only controls those industries deemed vital to the state. By and large, the poor in the U.S. are better off than the poor in Europe. And by almost any measure, the U.S. economy outperforms the vast majority of European countries even though the U.S. is much larger and much more diverse, meaning we have a much more robust middle class since many European countries with much lower GDP have much higher unemployment.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...ive-better-than-most-of-the-rest-of-humanity/
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I'm not attacking anyone's faith. Everyone should have the freedom to practice their faith; it's in the First Amendment in our Constitution. With that said, I do agree that it's foolish to say "God was the reason we won that game..." or something to that effect. More than likely there are Christians on the other team. Other than keeping everyone safe, God really doesn't care about football games, even though we do.
Nothing more hypocritical than an avowed atheist hiding behind scripture. Jesus kicked hypocrits asses. I am cutting you a break and calling a spade a spade. You dont believe in God so you dont believe the bible is gods word so excuse me if i think your argument is pathetic since you dont even believe it. Science calls you illogical so now my god and your god both mock you.
I don't believe in God but that doesn't mean I think everything in the Bible is bad. I think some of it is good. Words don't come much better than "Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."