Rutgers is good
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Rutgers had 10 steals against Wisconsin which has one of the lowest turnover totals in the nation. And Mulcahy had another really strong game. That Cats win some were disparaging on this board is looking a lot better now.
Rutgers is 6-3 in Quad 1 games. Losses to Lafayette and UMass early in the season look like outliers. They also lost to Maryland at home. All teams lay eggs on the road in conference play. The first 30 minutes of the NU game was a big egg and they almost battled back. They're good.
Harper - 175
McConnel - 335
Geo Baker - 414
Mulcahy - 156
Omoruyi - 51
Average: 226
As a comparison:
Nance - 88
Beran - 110
Berry - 153 (roper is 154)
Audige - 379
Buie - 327
Average: 211
Interestingly, you could very easily argue that the player having the strongest impact on both teams wasn't rated in the top 150 of their class.
" That Cats win some were disparaging on this board is looking a lot better now."
I don't think this is an accurate take.
The "disparaging" comments were almost universally directed at Collins and to a lesser extent the players for blowing a 24 point lead with 16 minutes to play, for being unable to adjust to a Rutgers defensive change.
I know I said "We have more talent than Rutgers" and "We are better than Rutgers."
The only way that is disparaging to Rutgers is if you think we suck.
But yes, our win over Rutgers is looking better now.
Give me a break. Several posters were saying “this win felt like a loss” and “the players must have zero confidence in themselves after blowing that lead” and “I would have rather just lost this game to end CCC.” It was pathetic.
I always want the Cats to win. And they pulled out a win in OT, even after surrendering a huge lead. And now they’re on a win streak. Imagine that.
So you respond to my comment with "Give me a break" and then re-iterate exactly what I wrote.
Interesting.
People were disparaging Collins and the players. Not Rutgers so much. You agree with me. Great!
The win DID feel like a loss. You shouldn't blow a 25 point lead against a similarly talented team. Just because RU is suddenly "good" doesn't change the collapse. Should we be less happy with the MSU win since they've lost a few?
It’s about the NU fan feeling better about his team. Kind of like when there were posts about Georgia getting a good win after we beat them. You’d think it would award us a couple more wins. But it doesn’t, at best it awards a couple more moral wins. Those don’t count.
You have gone on record saying we should have won 2 more games with better coaching. We are 5-8 (most likely to be 5-9) and Rutgers is 9-5. So by implication now we should have won 5 or 6 more games, since we are better than Rutgers in your words. It doesn’t add up. And if you do think our coach has lost us 5-6 games this year, I will just retreat from discussion with you in utter disbelief.
I think one thing you can say about Rutgers definitively this year is that they are inconsistent. In the games leading up to the NU game, they lost to Minnesota and Maryland, and almost lost to a Nebraska team they had previously blown out by 28 points.
In some ways the Cats’ game against them was a microcosm of their season.
In some ways the Cats’ game against them was a microcosm of their season.
I said we are more talented than Rutgers.
They are better coached than we are.
Steve Pikiell gets about as much as he can out of his roster ,maybe because he has no options.
Rutgers has no quality depth and only one quality big.
If you attribute 2 conference losses to Collins, plus the obvious Wake Forest game, we go from 5-8 to 7-6 in the conference, 15-7 overall. A bubble team.
They are better coached than we are.
Steve Pikiell gets about as much as he can out of his roster ,maybe because he has no options.
Rutgers has no quality depth and only one quality big.
If you attribute 2 conference losses to Collins, plus the obvious Wake Forest game, we go from 5-8 to 7-6 in the conference, 15-7 overall. A bubble team.
Saw an incredible ECHL game once at the Quizno’s Cheddar Bacon Ranch Ice Palace.
No we are not. Omoruyi is considered an NBA prospect. We don't have any of those, and Mulcahy as a 6-6 point guard is a load to handle. Collins wanted him over Buie, it is said. Ron Harper Jr. is a better 3-point shooter than anyone on our roster. And all these guys have NCAA experience from last year. Just admit you underestimated them, just like you are overestimating Nicholson's abilities right now (Sure hope he lives up to your hype before he is done!)
I like the way that they play. They play very hard and I wish we had that mentality here.