Saban to Penn State?

[RocketDawg]

Seems like he would be the logical choice. He certainly has the resume; he's roughly from that part of the country; and he's beat them on the field. He has name recognition there.<div>
</div><div>Penn State could afford whatever it took to get him ... and he could compete with his old rival, Urban Meyer, at OSU.</div>

 

[BehrDawg]

therefore, I will not respond. Any takers?

 

[Shmuley]

The old fart will wake up soon enough.

[Edit: Just realized the OP is not Old Fart, is he?]

 

[Foronce]

I nominate Crxxms he can clean a program up faster than anyone!!!

He gets character!!
He is a man of character!!
He is what penn st needs!!

 

[therightway]

Urban's head would explode if that happened and Saban know that so he could be charged. To be honest it would make sense but not with Bama playing for a BCS title. The timing does not work out. Saban has never stayed anywhere more than 5 years. What else can the man do at Bama. It looks like he will either win another title or lose to another program that he brought back from the gutter.

 

[thatsbaseball]

nm

 

[kired]

Is the PSU job really that appealing to big name or even up & coming coaches? It's not the same job it was just 4 weeks ago (or whenever all this started). Who knows whats going to happen there after the NCAA gets involved. The job that was probably a dream jobjust a few weeks ago now seems like avery risky career move.

Hiring a guy like Mullen proves that PSU is focused on football. Hiring a guy like Croom makes it appear they are focused on cleaning house & doing things the "right way", which may lessen any NCAA sanctions. I don't think Mullen turns the job down, butI wouldn't be suprised if PSU makes a Croomesque hire.

 

[Foronce]

instead of shutting it down ...they do care only about football
hell they rioted the streets cause the legend got canned via a yellow envelope saying ...call me
they give the program to the defensive cord, who was mentored by sandusky ...you think he didn't know the 'real' sandusky

The NCAA has to burn them with 'lack of institutional control'
The AD and JoePa tried to cover up every bad situation that happened at Penn St
I heard an interview with a local reporter that said oh yea penn st rivals florida for most arrest, but you don't hear about that
1) because penn st isn't as relevant in the title scheme
2) because joepa controls who covers his school and people like having a job

 

[MedDawg]

the NCAA is not going to hit Penn State with any penalties. The PA attorney general and state police investigated for 2-3 years and found 4-5 Penn State people involved, and all are gone. And there haven't been any trials, only the prosecutor's side of the story in the presentment.<div>
</div><div>The stigma will definitely turn a lot of coaches away, but the school obviously has a tolerance for keeping coaches, so any coach hired can feel reassured that he will have several years before getting on any hotseat. </div><div>
</div><div>Paterno didn't control anything--if he did, the arrests wouldn't have happened in the first place. Nearly all of those arrests are for minor things like "Minor In Possession" (a big thing with the State College Police against football players), or destruction of property (a couple players shot an arrow through a wall and got suspended from the team). The one major arrest was a sham and the player was found not guilty and won a lawsuit against the arresting officer. Those things definitely made the news, and Paterno suspended players all the time for them. He benched Kerry Collins for at least 3 games during a winning season just because Collins got a public intoxication and Paterno thought he had a drinking problem. And again, Penn State has never been put on probation or found guilty of any major infractions, so they (and Paterno) have never cheated to win.</div><div>
</div><div>That's simply ignorant to say "Penn State only cares about football because they didn't shut their program down". Nothing has even been proven yet--the only thing out is the attorney general's presentment (and only 23 pages of hundred of pages of testimony), designed to make the defendant look as bad as possible. There hasn't been a trial. There is no evidence of some active coverup. Maybe it will come out, but it didn't after the long investigation, so they shouldn't just "shut the program down". Everyone who was involved is gone. I think it was the right thing to go ahead and fire 'em all because of the severity of the accusations, but you don't shut down a whole program when no one has even been found guilty of anything yet. </div><div>
</div><div>If Sandusky did it, he needs to go to prison the rest of his life. If Paterno actively helped the PSU administration cover it up, he should be arrested. But even though the attorney general tried to make the case look as bad as possible, nothing in the presentment has Paterno covering up anything, and Paterno has not been charged with anything. The current defensive coordinator made interim HC was not named in anything. Not one player has been involved. </div><div>
</div><div>It's a horrible, horrible situation, but the current players and coaches had nothing to do with it. </div><div>
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[SixtonPackerish]

the NCAA is not going to hit Penn State with any penalties. The PA attorney general and state police investigated for 2-3 years and found 4-5 Penn State people involved, and all are gone. And there haven't been any trials, only the prosecutor's side of the story in the presentment.
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</div><div>The stigma will definitely turn a lot of coaches away, but the school obviously has a tolerance for keeping coaches, so any coach hired can feel reassured that he will have several years before getting on any hotseat. </div><div>
</div><div>Paterno didn't control anything--if he did, the arrests wouldn't have happened in the first place. Nearly all of those arrests are for minor things like "Minor In Possession" (a big thing with the State College Police against football players), or destruction of property (a couple players shot an arrow through a wall and got suspended from the team). The one major arrest was a sham and the player was found not guilty and won a lawsuit against the arresting officer. Those things definitely made the news, and Paterno suspended players all the time for them. He benched Kerry Collins for at least 3 games during a winning season just because Collins got a public intoxication and Paterno thought he had a drinking problem. And again, Penn State has never been put on probation or found guilty of any major infractions, so they (and Paterno) have never cheated to win.</div><div>
</div><div>That's simply ignorant to say "Penn State only cares about football because they didn't shut their program down". Nothing has even been proven yet--the only thing out is the attorney general's presentment (and only 23 pages of hundred of pages of testimony), designed to make the defendant look as bad as possible. There hasn't been a trial. There is no evidence of some active coverup. Maybe it will come out, but it didn't after the long investigation, so they shouldn't just "shut the program down". Everyone who was involved is gone. I think it was the right thing to go ahead and fire 'em all because of the severity of the accusations, but you don't shut down a whole program when no one has even been found guilty of anything yet. </div><div>
</div><div>If Sandusky did it, he needs to go to prison the rest of his life. If Paterno actively helped the PSU administration cover it up, he should be arrested. But even though the attorney general tried to make the case look as bad as possible, nothing in the presentment has Paterno covering up anything, and Paterno has not been charged with anything. The current defensive coordinator made interim HC was not named in anything. Not one player has been involved. </div><div>
</div><div>It's a horrible, horrible situation, but the current players and coaches had nothing to do with it. </div><div>
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Says the PSU graduate. Time will tell and I believe time's gonna tell a helluva lot.

 

[slickdawg]

the NCAA is not going to hit Penn State with any penalties. The PA attorney general and state police investigated for 2-3 years and found 4-5 Penn State people involved, and all are gone. And there haven't been any trials, only the prosecutor's side of the story in the presentment.<div>
</div><div>The stigma will definitely turn a lot of coaches away, but the school obviously has a tolerance for keeping coaches, so any coach hired can feel reassured that he will have several years before getting on any hotseat. </div><div>
</div><div>Paterno didn't control anything--if he did, the arrests wouldn't have happened in the first place. Nearly all of those arrests are for minor things like "Minor In Possession" (a big thing with the State College Police against football players), or destruction of property (a couple players shot an arrow through a wall and got suspended from the team). The one major arrest was a sham and the player was found not guilty and won a lawsuit against the arresting officer. Those things definitely made the news, and Paterno suspended players all the time for them. He benched Kerry Collins for at least 3 games during a winning season just because Collins got a public intoxication and Paterno thought he had a drinking problem. And again, Penn State has never been put on probation or found guilty of any major infractions, so they (and Paterno) have never cheated to win.</div><div>
</div><div>That's simply ignorant to say "Penn State only cares about football because they didn't shut their program down". Nothing has even been proven yet--the only thing out is the attorney general's presentment (and only 23 pages of hundred of pages of testimony), designed to make the defendant look as bad as possible. There hasn't been a trial. There is no evidence of some active coverup. Maybe it will come out, but it didn't after the long investigation, so they shouldn't just "shut the program down". Everyone who was involved is gone. I think it was the right thing to go ahead and fire 'em all because of the severity of the accusations, but you don't shut down a whole program when no one has even been found guilty of anything yet. </div><div>
</div><div>If Sandusky did it, he needs to go to prison the rest of his life. If Paterno actively helped the PSU administration cover it up, he should be arrested. But even though the attorney general tried to make the case look as bad as possible, nothing in the presentment has Paterno covering up anything, and Paterno has not been charged with anything. The current defensive coordinator made interim HC was not named in anything. Not one player has been involved. </div><div>
</div><div>It's a horrible, horrible situation, but the current players and coaches had nothing to do with it. </div><div>
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Penn State football and AD and President allowed a predator to continue using their facilities and their program with its influence to rape children. McQueary was a current coach, as was Paterno, they had a lot to do with it. There are tons of interviews and depositions yet to take place, I suspect we've just seen the tip of the iceberg.

 

[patdog]

By the time a school goes on probation the people that did it are gone. I don't know if Penn State should face any NCAA sanctions or not since no NCAA rules were apparently broken, but the excuse that all those people are gone is a poor argument for no sanctions.

 

[Foronce]

after the reported incident in 1998 by the janitor...

he still loved to be around the team as he was given a key and went to bowl games and he also took kids with him... so you are saying in 1998 when joe pa and the ad was told about it from when the janitor reported and nothing was found ...that sandusky went on his way retired 'in his prime', but every so often he would bring kids after hours during practice or whenever and joepa knew of the 1998 incident and never said anything...

even allowed him in the "facilies" (university facilies) after 2002 was reported ...they have him on campus about 8 weeks ago

is not lack of institutional control at the least?


ever hear of michael vick? sometimes public perception cause the punishment to be worst...


shut it down, meaning they should have quit playing this year and during a inhouse cleaning