Kill the rhetoric if you want to have a discussion. I'm not "lying" about anything. Bland didn't run. She didn't fight. She was non-compliant, tossed around like a rag doll, and was alive when taken into custody. We'll never know the truth of what happened after that.
Historically women have been blamed for being raped because of those choices (dressing a certain way, drinking too much) with the same faulty logic that you used. That's a pretty clear analogy.
99% of the time they do. The other 1% time they get shot in the face apparently.
Why can't some cops just do as they're told in training?
99% of them do. Everyone expects perfection from people doing a low paying job no else wants to do. No career path is filled with perfect people, that is why this cop has been charged with murder.
*lies, not lie's. I can make this a basic AF conversation too, if you'd like. You're telling me I'm trying to win an argument while you keep going on about "Lies! Lies!" on matters of disagreement.More lie's. She struck an officer, that's considered fighting. As is resisting arrest. She also committed suicide, not murdered by police as you suggested. Try staying on this topic, it's less confusing for you and everyone else if you do. Saying a woman deserved it has not kept the thousands convicted of rape from being in prison right now. Whack generalizations that have nothing to do with this topic. You're trying to win an argument in middle of the rest of us discussing Sam Dubose' death.
As far as I can tell, no one else in this thread, regardless of their position on this case, seems to like you, or your sexism, or your thinly veiled racism either. Maybe we're all a bunch of teenage girls.Is BristolCat a teenage girl. Goodness. The world is a tough place, man. You're going to have to grow up or it's going to eat you alive.
so the other cop signed his name to a document saying that the shooter was "dragged"?
Side topic,
Do you think its right to kill someone who is stealing from you?
Timothy Mcveigh, Ted Bundy, Randy Kraft, Richard Ramirez...all caught in routine traffic stops. Do you realize how many drugs, guns, stolen
You're the one who keeps focusing on that aspect of the conversation, forcing me to come back to it. You have no proof that Sandra Bland committed suicide. I have no proof she didn't. The coroner's report isn't proof, btw. That's why I said we don't know what happened.
Then comply with law enforcement commands.
If you didn't believe what you posted then how the heck did you expect me to? I can respect different opinions but no one should make stuff up and try to mislead people. The medical examiner stated (he's a professional keep in mind) that she committed suicide from the evidence of her autopsy. Internet rumors by idiots who love to dream up conspiracy theory's are not factual.
This was a ridiculous traffic stop to begin with. We all know the campus cop couldn't wait to pull over some guy over a technicality, out of his patrol area no less. He thought he had a DUI arrest (which they should stop giving out awards for highest DUI arrests, etc. But that's anther topic).
Dubose was compliant. Handed an unopened bottle of liquor. Explained the registration issue. Then he started balking on the license, which he clearly didn't have with him.
The officer should have just ran his name, to see if he had a valid license or not. Instead, the officer physically opens the door and attempts to drag Dubose out (rather than asking him to step out of the vehicle, as is the protocol). Dubose reacts by pulling the door shut, which at that point is a fairly reasonable response. Then the officer begins reaching into the car for whatever reason, and Dubose tries to drive away; an illegal choice, but not one requiring any sort of lethal action let alone lethal force being the immediate option.
The solution is easy. Big picture - increase pay. It gets better applicants. Case specific, this The officer created a tense situation, when it could have easily been avoided. Then he resorted to lethal force immediately, and without cause. Finally he lied about his report, which proves hes both stupid and unethical considering he knew he was wearing a body cam.
But you've admitted you were in corrections/LE; so that explains why youre in the "IF HE JUST DID EVERYTHING HE WAS TOLD HE WOULDNT GET SHOT IN THE HEAD" crowd.
Bluelifer...learn to read.
Nobody is saying the cop was right to shoot him. But do you think the man would've been shot if he had got out of the car as ordered or didn't drive off? When you disobey orders from the law you're playing with fire. It's like leaving your wallet in your car at night....you shouldn't have to worry about it getting stolen but you're asking for it by leaving it out there.
The concept is consistent in both Bluelifer. When you make bad decisions....sometimes even worse consequences happen.
Does the punishment fit the crime?Cop gives order
Man doesn't follow orders (Illegal)
Man attempts to get away (Illegal)
Internet surprised man was punished
Sadly, this is the best advice. Its just sad its come to this.
As Ive posted numerous times, its a matter of awful applicant pool. Most, if not all, of these horrific videos are at the hands of officers who should've never been on the street for one reason or the next. These positions are awful hours, awful pay, and often awful/no benefits. Why would anyone with any potential want these jobs? Unless of course, its to exert authority over the general public; which is basically whats happening.
Instead of giving McD's workers $15/hour, pay should be increased for law enforcement. That way there will be better job applicants, and therefore less atrocities at the hands of imbeciles.
So if an officer is giving you unreasonable commands you should still comply? That's BS.Then comply with law enforcement commands.
If you didn't believe what you posted then how the heck did you expect me to? I can respect different opinions but no one should make stuff up and try to mislead people. The medical examiner stated (he's a professional keep in mind) that she committed suicide from the evidence of her autopsy. Internet rumors by idiots who love to dream up conspiracy theory's are not factual.
And you're blinded by ideology. Much worse.I stopped reading when you defended drunk driving...your either young or stupid or both.
So if an officer is giving you unreasonable commands you should still comply? That's BS.