Saquon is officially a bust

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When the Giants picked him in the Draft I cringed because I knew Saquon Barkley was not a NY Giants type back. Do you guys remember A. Bradshaw? He was smaller RB than Barkley but hit the line hard and ran in between the tackles. Barkley is more of a finesse runner and a receiving back, probably better suited for a west coast offense. I hope the Giants trade him to a team like the 49’s or Seattle. JMHO.
 

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When the Giants picked him in the Draft I cringed because I knew Saquon Barkley was not a NY Giants type back. Do you guys remember A. Bradshaw? He was smaller RB than Barkley but hit the line hard and ran in between the tackles. Barkley is more of a finesse runner and a receiving back, probably better suited for a west coast offense. I hope the Giants trade him to a team like the 49’s or Seattle. JMHO.
He can run between the tackles at 233 lbs. He just doesn’t realize he is in the NFL, you can run horizontal.
 

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The biggest problem with drafting a back at 2 is the multitude of reasons why a team has the second pick.

Of course, many believe taking OL, DE, QB is the way to go at 2, but it's deeper than that if you fudge up the picks around it.

Cleveland, for example, has lived in the top 5 for nearly 2 decades before finally making the playoffs last year. They have drafted nearly every combination of players. 90% failed because the management stunk.

The Giants probably fail worse without Barkley during his time there. His skill was hard to contain until injuries piled up. They let OBJ go. They didn't build an OL. The defense has stunk. Prime Barry Sanders fails there.
 

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As an Eagles fan, I’ll take Barkley tomorrow. He’d be fantastic behind the big Philly OL.
 

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What f-ing difference does it make what round they’re drafted in? Labeling Barkley or McCaffrey busts shows you don’t know s—- about football and you’re stuck in the instant gratification vortex. If they suck because they suck, that’s bustworthy. But being felled by injuries is a whole other ballgame. Take your expectations elsewhere.
Chillax bro. The words youre looking for are value and salary cap. And of course how they work together to build a winner. Tell me I don’t know dick about football one more time lol.
 

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Barry Sanders ran behind possible the worst line in history in 1998 and got 1400 yards. I don't think Saquon is a bust, but I still think some under estimate what the injuries have done to him. Booker ran behind the same line last week and got 72 yards.
Booker had a 40 yd run to the outside where no one touched him. Other than that Booker did nothing. Saquon gets all these first down runs up the gut and then they bring in Booker on 2nd or 3rd down where the obvious run up the gut is less likely.
 

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Man, he is one guy I thought 100% for sure would be a star. But he is just a complete shell of his former self out there. Just goes to show there are no sure things.
Bust? I'd give anything to be a bust if SB is one. Playing behind perhaps the worst OL in the NFL, QB injured and coming off major reconstructive knee surgery.....I'd show restraint before I "define" Barkley and close the book. I'd want to see him get a fresh start and have a healthy off season before I jump the gun.
Even then, I'd never use that term to describe him.
 

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Bust? I'd give anything to be a bust if SB is one. Playing behind perhaps the worst OL in the NFL, QB injured and coming off major reconstructive knee surgery.....I'd show restraint before I "define" Barkley and close the book. I'd want to see him get a fresh start and have a healthy off season before I jump the gun.
Even then, I'd never use that term to describe him.
There's a good chance he's going to be a bust just like these guys are busts.

 

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Second max deal says that, not his rookie deal.
That might be true for lower 1st round draft picks but he can quit after his first contract and live like a king for the rest of his life. He also makes $10 million in endorsements per year so if he quits after next season he'd be at $89 million after 5 years.

"According to Spotrac, in 2021, the Giants picked up a fifth-year option on Barkley’s current contract, with a $7.2 million salary cap. He becomes a free agent in 2023. To date, the running back has career earnings totaling $31,384,750."

 
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That might be true for lower 1st round draft picks but he can quit after his first contract and live like a king for the rest of his life. He also makes $10 million in endorsements per year so if he quits after next season he'd be at $89 million after 5 years.

"According to Spotrac, in 2021, the Giants picked up a fifth-year option on Barkley’s current contract, with a $7.2 million salary cap. He becomes a free agent in 2023. To date, the running back has career earnings totaling $31,384,750."

That's a pretty good start for someone who is only 24 years-old.
 

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That might be true for lower 1st round draft picks but he can quit after his first contract and live like a king for the rest of his life. He also makes $10 million in endorsements per year so if he quits after next season he'd be at $89 million after 5 years.

"According to Spotrac, in 2021, the Giants picked up a fifth-year option on Barkley’s current contract, with a $7.2 million salary cap. He becomes a free agent in 2023. To date, the running back has career earnings totaling $31,384,750."

Happy for him.
 

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Man, he is one guy I thought 100% for sure would be a star. But he is just a complete shell of his former self out there. Just goes to show there are no sure things.
A bust? That's a pretty simplistic, and harsh take, I think.

Is he going to have anywhere close to the career many would have envisioned? Highly unlikely - due to injuries, playing on a woeful team, and just not being as good, for whatever combination of reasons, as some would have hoped. The day he was drafted by the Giants pretty much lowered the ceiling (that was one of the saddest draft picks - from both the player's and the team's perspective - that I can recall), despite the fact that he had a very highlight-reel-ish rookie year. All the rest has just added additional anchors to what could have been. It happens all the time in the NFL.
 

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When there's no "whole " it's tough to pick one.
Ha! Hole.
He had the same issue at Penn State though, if you’re being honest. Hell of a talent, great running back, but sometimes lost yards waiting for a hole to appear instead of just getting a couple.
 
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This just in: Saquan is not a bust! Rinse and repeat!!

He is also MUCH richer than any of his critics!

Suck on that for a while!

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;) :cool: ;) :cool: ;) :cool: ;) :cool: ;)
 

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This was his rookie year when the Giants had a OL.

I’m not saying he’s a bust or that he isn’t capable of great things. I’m saying that he has a tendency to look for the big play instead of just taking a couple of yards when it’s available and avoid the risk of losing yards.
I’ve had the chance to watch him a few times this year. That line sucks, no doubt. But if you know that and I know that, then he’s got to know that and be willing taking a couple yards when it’s there instead of looking for 30.
 
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Jim Brown and Walter Payton together, in their prime, could not do anything with that hapless excuse for a team. I heard a talking head say today that the Giants are the first team he has ever seen that does nothing well. He said they don’t even cover kickoffs well. I don’t know if that’s true but point taken. They are
They should get offensive lineman with the draft.
 

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I’m not saying he’s a bust or that he isn’t capable of great things. I’m saying that he has a tendency to look for the big play instead of just taking a couple of yards when it’s available and avoid the risk of losing yards.
I’ve had the chance to watch him a few times this year. That line sucks, no doubt. But if you know that and I know that, then he’s got to know that and be willing taking a couple yards when it’s there instead of looking for 30.
If healthy I think he'd have 1500 yards rushing and 600 receiving if he were on the Saints next season no matter who the QB is.
 
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Saquon is not a bust. His first two seasons were very very good. He tore an ACL last season and is still working his way back.

The best thing that could happen to him would be for the Giants to refuse to extend him and release him this off-season.

He could then go to an Eagles or other team with a strong OL and a commitment to running the ball. He’d be an All Pro in that type of situation.
 

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Bust? Man come on. It’s early in his career. He’s working behind a terrible oline, with no good QB, constant OC changes and dysfunction in the organization. And he’s been injured. Way too early to say he’s a bust. It’s not like he’s washed up and out of the league.
Take him and his salary on eagles .
Barry Sanders ran behind possible the worst line in history in 1998 and got 1400 yards. I don't think Saquon is a bust, but I still think some under estimate what the injuries have done to him. Booker ran behind the same line last week and got 72 yards.
Giants running backs don't get 35 carries a game.
 

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What f-ing difference does it make what round they’re drafted in? Labeling Barkley or McCaffrey busts shows you don’t know s—- about football and you’re stuck in the instant gratification vortex. If they suck because they suck, that’s bustworthy. But being felled by injuries is a whole other ballgame. Take your expectations elsewhere.
I see one too better offensive line and quarterback.
 

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Saquon is not a bust. His first two seasons were very very good. He tore an ACL last season and is still working his way back.

The best thing that could happen to him would be for the Giants to refuse to extend him and release him this off-season.

He could then go to an Eagles or other team with a strong OL and a commitment to running the ball. He’d be an All Pro in that type of situation.
The Giants already picked up his option.

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His offensive line is dreadful.
If it exists, please tell me one great runner who had a dreadful OL.
 

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Let me get this straight...a former Giants KICKER is Tweeting that Saquon should be benched?

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Not endorsing his viewpoint just passing it along . Crazy thought but an NFL player , even a kicker , possibly has more insight than a board poster .
 

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Not endorsing his viewpoint just passing it along . Crazy thought but an NFL player , even a kicker , possibly has more insight than a board poster .
You're right. I'll wait until I hear from that pretentious @ss Tiki Barber on this subject. Oh wait, he already dogged Saquon. Funny thing is, Tiki quit his team and they went on to win 2 Superbowls without him then has the nerve to criticize Saquon. 🤣
 

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Bills Rumors: Giants Star RB Saquon Barkley to Land in Buffalo in 2022

By Emily Bicks Updated Jan 1, 2022 at 1:27pm

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Getty Saquon Barkley #26 of the New York Giants during warm up before the game against the Los Angeles Chargers at SoFi Stadium on December 12, 2021 in Inglewood, California.
The Buffalo Bills are on a hot streak heading into the final two games of the regular season and doing so without a strong backfield. With quarterback Josh Allen being the team’s second-best leading rusher, it’s no secret the Bills’ run game is their Achilles heel.

It’s also worrisome how much Allen is forced to run the ball himself. While he’s highly capable of taking the game into his own hands, continuously putting the team’s $258 million star in harm’s way is playing with fire.

In order to beef up their backfield next season, it appears the Bills won’t even have to cross state lines. Numerous analysts believe Buffalo should focus on obtaining the New York Giants star running back Saquon Barkley.

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New York Giants star running back Saquon Barkley is predicted to be on the move after the 2021 NFL season comes to a close.

 

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Not endorsing his viewpoint just passing it along . Crazy thought but an NFL player , even a kicker , possibly has more insight than a board poster .
Today's stats when the Bears basically knew both guys were going to get the ball as the Giants decided they could not block to pass after the first play of the game.
Saquon Barkley 21 102 0 4.9
Devontae Booker 18 46 0 2.6

Booker was getting good chunks when the defense did not expect him to get the ball in some of the previous games.

I am not sure if we are ever going to see pre-ACL Saquon but he started to look like himself against the Saints the game before he hurt his ankle. He has been on the injury list ever since that game with his ankle. He is running dirty so if he gets some of his explosion back next year in Buffalo (I hope). He could be just as good a RB but with a different style.