Saturday on CSNChicago: LWE at Libertyville

Oddy

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JMO of course, but nobody puts up 24 1st half points on a championship caliber D, that worries me. I think Libertyville's run ends at home this week.
 
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Dino, you are indeed correct. Second round is where it his the fan!

Edgy, we need you at the game.
 

cowboyswag

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Eastdad what's the quick breakdown of this LWE team? Know Bauer is solid at QB and Morrisey was an all state RB last year but don't know much else about this team. Was Morrisey hurt for part of the year? I thought I read that somewhere on here...thx
 

sundevil1988

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Last time LWE was up north was against CoM - had a good time with a lot of their fans waiting out the storm at Tighthead Brewery. If not for the 1pm start would of been a good spot to bring in some franks for the memories wings and a cold tighthead beer
 

CCHS-Fan

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Oddy, who has stated L'ville has a championship caliber type D?

It's been stated and re-stated on this board that you can't get a good read on what Libertyville's D is because of their schedule. What is certain about L'ville is their offensive production that runs through Lees, who is a serious POY candidate.

Those tied to the NSC mention the Lake side of the conference is average to below average for 2015 compared to previous years.

I'd be worried too if DGN was able to score what they did on a 9-0 team. DGN = not good.
 

cowboyswag

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I think you guys are overreacting a little bit regarding the defensive issues. While I agree, they haven't faced any elite teams or elite offenses, DGN runs an offense that they never see in the regular season and is very hard to simulate in practice. Credit to DGN for being good at what they do but also it's important to remember that DGN converted 3 or 4 fourth downs in the 1st half including a fake punt which kept them in the game. Also, look at the second half, Lville made adjustments, forced a couple turnovers, and shut them down. Very interesting game this weekend.
 

etl1227

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NSC 4-0 first round. Best conference performance in the state. The Libertyville D was never tested this year and never saw an option offense. Very impressed with second half adjustment which included no points and a goal line stance in the 4th. Good to see that reaction as many were wondering how they would react. Hey, this is gonna be a heck of a game. As a Ville fan just glad the first one is out of the way!!
 
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Mjost

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Yes I agree giving up 24 points in a half is a problem, but as much as anything i think it had to do with playing against the triple option which Lib had not seen all year. It was the FIRST points scored against them in the first quarter all year (previously 144-0). Probably a good thing to be challenged/scared out of the gate. LWE and Lib run basically the same defenses and offenses. So no surprises this week.

Last week Lib scored touchdowns on each of their 8 possessions, some without the starting offense. They had over 550 yards on 35 plays plays...In just 3 quarters with the starting team playing most/not all of that. i don't care what playoff team you are playing, that is a lot of yards.

The NSC lake went 4-0 week one (not bad for a down year). No doubt LWE will be a tough game for Lib, but the board is making if sound like an impossible task.

Remember DGN was shut out in the second half after adjustments. In fact, I would argue outside of HF, LWE has not played against a team & offense as good as Lib.

This should be a close game, not a blow out either way. Thinking 28-21 Lib.
 
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Oddy

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I think it will be close as well, just hate to see the D shredded even for one half.
 

LakeCtyNewt

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When your offense can score 56 giving up 24 doesn't seem that bad. Not saying they will score that much vs LWe - I'd be surprised if they did. Giving up a lot of points seems to be a common occurrence in these playoffs.
 

PowerI66_

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From what I saw in the first half, Libertyville's defense looked VERY susceptible to teams with decent O-lines and good running games. Especially up the middle.
 

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I'm sure LWE HS a terrific offense. With all the concerns about the Cats defense I haven't seen anyone mention how LWe plans to stop the Wildcats offense - think that would be kind of an important part of the game.
 

etl1227

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Was just asking. Agree.....first half was a little nerve racking. Awesome to see the sideline and how they adjusted emotionally and on the field. Agree with Lake County - pretty decent offense. My only beef is how their wins have been discounted. Then conference goes 4-0 and nobody talks about that. Cool thing about these sites is that all have opinions and favorites. Again, gonna be a great game.
 
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Historically LWE has had strong lines. The o-line this year is very strong. Good skill position players.
Defense has always been stout against the run. The key to how well LWE does is their defensive backs. If they play well LWE wins.

Care in point. The time they won the championship, they had two very fast 6-3 cornerbacks, one of which I think still holds the state interception record.... They would bait QB's and just pick them off.
 

cowboyswag

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I understand the comparison but I think Lees is in a class of his own....
-T fuessel's stats from 2012 (13 or 14games not sure if it was released before state title game) according to the Chicago tribune: 1519 rushing yards 21 TD's and 1121 passing yards and 8 TD's http://graphics.chicagotribune.com/2012-hs-football-cards/#tomfuessel
- Riley's stats from this year through 10 games 1200 passing yards 19 TD's (2 INT) and just under 1700 rushing yards and 24TD's. His numbers last year were better too with less games and on a worse team
 

CCHS-Fan

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It wouldn't take much for the NSC Lake to lay an egg and go "0-for-4" this week. Doing damage in the first round of the playoffs isn't impressive IMO. Rd 2 usually flushes out the pretenders.
 

goodnamesaregone

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I've looked forward to this match-up since it looked like a possibility a few weeks ago.

I think this game will come down to special teams. Lville is going to score, but so will LWE (because Libertyville's D is just not that strong). LWE has to make Lees work for the points and therefore can't give him a short field. That was LWE's downfall with HF.
38-35 LWE wins.
 

Corey90

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Yes I agree giving up 24 points in a half is a problem, but as much as anything i think it had to do with playing against the triple option which Lib had not seen all year. It was the FIRST points scored against them in the first quarter all year (previously 144-0). Probably a good thing to be challenged/scared out of the gate. LWE and Lib run basically the same defenses and offenses. So no surprises this week.

Last week Lib scored touchdowns on each of their 8 possessions, some without the starting offense. They had over 550 yards on 35 plays plays...In just 3 quarters with the starting team playing most/not all of that. i don't care what playoff team you are playing, that is a lot of yards.

The NSC lake went 4-0 week one (not bad for a down year). No doubt LWE will be a tough game for Lib, but the board is making if sound like an impossible task.

Remember DGN was shut out in the second half after adjustments. In fact, I would argue outside of HF, LWE has not played against a team & offense as good as Lib.

This should be a close game, not a blow out either way. Thinking 28-21 Lib.

Let's see
OPRF, HF, Bolingbrook, Sandburg all seem capable to play with Lib. It should be a great game. I am not sure but I don't think LWE has allowed more than 28 points in any game this year.
 

LakeCtyNewt

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Fewest points scored by Libertyville was 34 - only 2x under 40. Just wondering from reading this thread if Libertyville has any kind of chance at all. Considering their defense is horrific.
 

Mjost

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You are right. Lib has no chance. See you at Finns to celebrate after.

Hookem
 
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Oddy

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Newt: As a Libertyville fan, I just can't overlook the 24 points in one half of football. A good D just doesn't do that. I hope I'm wrong.
 

mmca

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Fewest points scored by Libertyville was 34 - only 2x under 40. Just wondering from reading this thread if Libertyville has any kind of chance at all. Considering their defense is horrific.
Agree! Their D must be horrific since they gave up 24 points in the first half last week, the most all season against their first team defense. This horrible D gave up 7 against a Stevie team who's averaging 32 points so far. Regarding their offense, the 2 games that they didn't score over 40 were against Stevenson(35) and Mundelein (starters were out after the 1st qtr). Libertyville must out score LWE who's D is averaging less than 9 points against. I'm interested in how LWE will stop Libertyville's O. Looking forward to Sat. Should be a great game and good luck to all!
 
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goodnamesaregone

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Agree! Their D must be horrific since they gave up 24 points in the first half last week, the most all season against their first team defense. This horrible D gave up 7 against a Stevie team who's averaging 32 points so far. Regarding their offense, the 2 games that they didn't score over 40 were against Stevenson(35) and Mundelein (starters were out after the 1st qtr). Libertyville must out score LWE who's D is averaging less than 9 points against. I'm interested in how LWE will stop Libertyville's O. Looking forward to Sat. Should be a great game and good luck to all!
I don't think Libertyville's defense is "horrific." I don't think it is stout, either. And I don't think LWE can or will need to "stop" Libertyville's offense; they just need to slow them down. LWE can do that by playing good special teams and limiting the turnovers. Don't give Lees a short field. I think it's going to be a close game with a lot of points. It's the best game of the day (hence the tv coverage.).
 

PowerI66_

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Did anybody say horrific? I said that their biggest weakness (in so many words) was the run up the middle. Cap that and adjust like they did in the second half against DGN and problem solved. You guys need to stop being so touchy about your team's weaknesses.
 

Corey90

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I don't see either team getting to 2nd round with poor defenses. I am sure they both come ready. Key to East win is for them to contain the lib QB. East D needs to stop the run and play disapline football.
 

LakeCtyNewt

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I guess you can look at this two ways. Giving up 24 the first half is bad. How many points wee given up after halftime? IN 10 weeks of football, Libertyville has given up 68 second half points. I don't do math so good but I think that is only 6.8 points per game given up after halftime.

And they have not trailed after halftime this season. With those stats I would be plenty fine with them giving up that many points in the first half.
 
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Mjost

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Newt, meet Me at Finns after the game. We can talk about the so so defense and how it will contain MS in round 3.
 

LakeCtyNewt

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First round on me Jost. Wish I could see the whole game. Covering Stevie at Loyola at noon. Will come by when done
 

Corey90

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Newt, meet Me at Finns after the game. We can talk about the so so defense and how it will contain MS in round 3.

Wow
So your already in round 3. I guess LWE has no chance. I am sure the Griffins like the underdog role!
 

Mjost

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Just responding sarcastically to all the talk about how bad Libs defense is. It will be a good close game. 1-2 score max difference. Under over on LWE points scored? I say 21.



Wow
So your already in round 3. I guess LWE has no chance. I am sure the Griffins like the underdog role!
 

Corey90

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Look is this the best LWE team ever? No
Is this a good LWE team? Yes
Will East be ready to play a team if
Libertyville caliber? We will see!

Go East!