So how about that South Carolina female high school student who wouldn't cooperate with anyone and got rolled by the cop assigned to the high school? He probably could have got her out of that chair a little easier and maybe slid her chair out into the hallway before he did it so everyone wouldn't be a witness to that but I don't have a lot of problem with what he did. The student wasn't hurt. I do hate to see the NAACP and maybe others try to say that race had anything to do with it. I'd like to see a light slap on the wrist for him but I'd guess that just for appearances (or maybe justified) he'll pay a pretty big price for the incident. The administrators at that school should have handled that instead of calling in Officer Slam who has a preferred way of dealing with unruly humans which works pretty well outside of a school.
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The DOJ has been called in which is a good move by the police. The officer has an black girl friend so I would find it hard to believe he is racist. I believe that having an officer at school is a good idea, but they should not be used to administer school justice. The classroom should have been cleared and the belligerent young lady dealt with by the principal.
I think it was only by pure luck that the student wasn't hurt. I have a hard time understanding how he takes that to that level when, by all appearances, the student wasn't posing a threat, only a nuisance. I do think the sheriff is handling the situation correctly - put the guy on admin leave and call in the investigators. Also, another student stood up and voiced concern over how he handled the situation. She got arrested for disturbing class also, although she didn't get thrown to the ground.
I don't assume that this is based on race. I also agree that the first failure is with the teacher and the school administration. They should be able to deal with a non-violent class disturbance.
Good comments.... I don't think the officer had the proper training to deal with this situation. Sometimes someone has to think out of the box when things like this happen. Here is an example; the teacher moves all the other students out of the room and leaves the headcase sitting in her chair alone in the room.
Student needs to learn to listen and that cop needs to learn how and when to use force.
He's been fired so maybe he will. Or he'll take a gig as a Fox News commentator.
I think that we should only have police there to protect the students who behave from the students who are there to disrupt the class room which is what she was doing. I would bet that this is not the first trouble this girl has caused. Maybe the truth will exonerate the student. It would be a first though.
A student raising questions about how discipline was meted out? dependable witness?
I'm sure the responses to what I'm about to say will be predictable but back when I was in high school, if someone would've done what that girl did-being a bratty jerk-she would've likely been suspended from school for a couple days. But the real punishment would've been what happened at home. I remember when I was a senior in high school, the teacher in the class right before lunch was sick and there was no sub. So with a few minutes to go before the class was scheduled to be let out, I skipped out. Of course i got caught. The principal gave me a choice-2 days suspension or 2 licks with his paddle. I chose the paddle because I knew my parents would find out about the suspension and then I'd really be in trouble. Imagine a principal in this day and age paddling a student. regardless, that cop did not handle that situation appropriately. How the hell does a cop, in the age of cell phone cameras, think he can get away with something like that?
She's already been exonerated as far as most people are concerned. The cop will be fired, and every student in that school now knows that they can do whatever they please and nobody can do a damn thing about it. One version of the story floating around says that she had put away her cell phone and wasn't causing any disruption. If that version was true, why did the teacher then call a school administrator and then the cop to have her removed from the room? All that aside, it's clear from the video that the cop just completely lost control of himself. Short of her threatening him with a weapon there was no justification for that level of force.
I've heard that as part of the story. I haven't heard any accounts from that student or seen that stuff on video. Maybe the second student did something that earned it - you can question authority in the right way and in the wrong way. After the guy threw the first student to the ground, I have a hard time believing that anything else happening in that classroom was a greater disruption than that tussle.
Another situation where blame can be spread among both parties. Depending on one's own bias or prejudice they will try to place all the blame on either the cop or the student. Both were wrong. And this goes back to 90% of the cases that we've seen. When the cop is in front of you, just do what he f'n says. You'll have your chance later to show that he was wrong, if he was.
First, the student. We are getting to the point where a larger and larger number of students just have no respect for authority whatsoever. She was asked by the teacher to do something, then by the principal (or another administrator), and then finally by the cop. She just sat there defiantly through all of that. That's a problem.
Second, the cop. The student in question pulled a cell phone out, then wouldn't surrender it and wouldn't leave. She wasn't posing a threat to anybody so the cop's actions seem a bit unwarranted. She didn't assault him or anybody else, she was just being defiant.
Third, the school. I don't know how they have things set up, but it seems to me the cop should be there to keep people safe, not for general discipline issues within the classroom. If there's a shooter, the cop can get engaged. If there is an actual crime, drugs, assault, terroristic threats, the cop should get involved. A student just being a jerk? ... no.
Was the student wrong? Yes. Did the cop overreact? Also yes. Are both at fault? Yes.
Paddling in High School? Just curious, what High School? I remember paddling in Junior High (Riverside Jr. High). We had a shop teacher who was the paddler, and he did the deed for the whole school. I once saw a ninth grader who had a beard piss himself when he was facing the "paddler".
I think a lot of our societal problems can be layed at the feet of parents not being involved or even there. Man, I would have been scared of what would happen to me when my parents found out too. I think that as long as people feel that they are not responsible for their actions and that others are to blame, we will continue down this road. From what I've seen, the cop here was out of line. With what we ask the cops to risk, he shouldn't be called in to take care of some brat and then lose his job.
You guys had it easy, when I was in high school, it was a military school, we could get spanked but they gave you demerits. It took a lot of Saturdays to walk off my demerits.
She got off easy. If I would have behaved like that in school, my Mom would have done far worse than that police officer did. Moms back in the day did NOT play!
Serioulsy, what the cop did was wrong, but what no one is talking about is how some kids think they can do what ever they damn well please. Where is home traiing in all this?
Did you know any of the Ashworths that lived in Richwood. They would have went to Richwood about 76-79? My brother lived close to them and we would hang out on occassion.
I believe the cop was totally wrong. The student was also totally wrong. The cop should have exhibited some self control.
Cop shouldn't be put in that situation of being the schools enforcer.
My oldest brother used to be the produce manager at the Kroger. I lived with him part of 1978 and worked at the old folks home in town. Wonder if they got any empty rooms left? I could use one.
And so should the girl. It's easy to say she is only 16, but a 16 year old should know better than to behave that way. I think some parents are more concerned with being thier kids friend than being a parent.
Again, no excuse for the cop; he will get what's coming to him, but it's time for Moms and Dads to be parents instead of friends. JMO.
My nephews go to school near there and they have police at their school, predominately white.