http://couragefromcontext.com/kentucky-covid-are-you-gonna-get-this/
Very insightful analysis with data compiled from the ky gov and cdc websites.
Very insightful analysis with data compiled from the ky gov and cdc websites.
School Re-Opening
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That is excellent and should essentially put Andy, Stack and all of the other fear mongering twits back to their holes.
No he will have a chart od some city in Florida that had a couple kids test positive and his butt sniffers will use that to tell us we don’t care about our kids or we are using them as a “meat shield”
Have to get those case numbers up because that's all that's left for these lockdown clowns to use. Look at any graph of tests to cases to hospitalizations to deaths and we are clearly on the downside of this and have been for a while.
He is absolutely THE one keeping this going. Friend of mine, who happens to be a practicing physican and has 2 school aged children, wrote a letter/email to someone in Frankfort regarding is disappointment in the decisions being made regarding returning to school.
He received a response almost immediately by a state senator, who also happens to be a physician, that absolutely agreed with him. Basically said most of them (state reps/senators) agree with him. Problem is, King Andy is making these decisions on his own. A couple direct quotes from the email response...
"Unfortunately, the Governor does not communicate with the members of the General Assembly at all. He has not communicated with us through this entire 'emergency period.'"
"As a colleague, I agree with you and appreciate your input on this matter. However, the decisions being made on this front are being done by one man alone, and that is Andy Beshear."
This particular state senator, along with some others, is drafting a bill to limit the governor's power when it comes to emergency powers.
That is crazy, unbelievable and believable, all at the same time. His arbitrary BS decision making has crushed our economy, and now he is going to ruin kids lives as much as possible. I have no doubt he cares about people, but that is where his mindset needs to stop because he is in way over his head in dealing with this.
Trouble is, KY Constitution basically makes Andy king when Legislature ain't in session & when it doesn't curtail his powers with laws when in session. Net, senator has no one to blame but himself & those elected with him - as well as we as a whole for allowing such a constitution.
I think he is dragging this out for 2 reasons:
-He needs the support of the teachers union because they got him elected.
-He needs to get as much federal money as he can as a bailout. He never intended to fund the government worker (teacher) pensions in the first place.
-He needs the support of the teachers union because they got him elected.
-He needs to get as much federal money as he can as a bailout. He never intended to fund the government worker (teacher) pensions in the first place.
Rack. He sold his soul to the teachers and took over a state in dire financial straits. Bring on the federal dollars.
Man I’m glad the whole reopening schools decision isn’t one I have to make. There’s literally no correct answer, you’re sacrificing people’s physical and mental health, education, jobs, and finances no matter what you do until widespread vaccination is possible.
My collegiate alma mater has only been having classes for a week and is already just one case away from alert level 2. There are only three levels, and reaching level 3 means sending everyone home except people under quarantine and anyone that’s needed to prevent the campus from literally falling apart, basically.
My collegiate alma mater has only been having classes for a week and is already just one case away from alert level 2. There are only three levels, and reaching level 3 means sending everyone home except people under quarantine and anyone that’s needed to prevent the campus from literally falling apart, basically.
I would struggle with opening colleges way more than K-12.
K-12, in non-hotspots, is a no brainer. Very important that in school is an option for this group.
College, regardless of the situation, is going to cause spread. If the goal is to limit as many cases as possible, not that I'm saying it's a reasonable goal, then you're going to flounder in a college setting. College is also the easiest to do online. My opinion, reduce classes where possible, offer lots of testing, quarantine on campus, and let them inoculate themselves.
K-12, in non-hotspots, is a no brainer. Very important that in school is an option for this group.
College, regardless of the situation, is going to cause spread. If the goal is to limit as many cases as possible, not that I'm saying it's a reasonable goal, then you're going to flounder in a college setting. College is also the easiest to do online. My opinion, reduce classes where possible, offer lots of testing, quarantine on campus, and let them inoculate themselves.
College age kids are still a nothing burger. Open every school. Pussies stay at home until it's "safe" to come out of your cave.
Teacher’s unions...ugh. I don’t know how teacher’s can argue we aren’t essential employees and that we need to be back to work making a difference. It’s a service. Anyone who feels they are at personal risk should make the decision best for them but others have sacrificed and went to work...it’s our turn now. This checklist is just trying to make it more difficult to do the job that they are hired to do in person. It’s a bad look when others have been doing their part.
Personal choice for students is fine by me as long as the teachers have a personal choice as well.
All employees have personal choice. Go to work, if you want an at home position then apply for it, if there are none the you're unemployed. That's what I had to tell my employees in March and April when we didn't know what the hell was going on and estimated death rates at like 4%.
Interesting short BBC video re antibody testing in the UK, focusing on children. Pretty much in line with everything we seem to know already.
Which is why the Gov should stay the F out of it. Let those close to it decide.
https://www.wdrb.com/news/proposal-...cle_096e8262-e257-11ea-b922-1f562f5bae0d.html
So they want to set up a school basically inside the churches? Will the governor allow this but not let public schools open?
So they want to set up a school basically inside the churches? Will the governor allow this but not let public schools open?
They do. They can work, or they can find another job. If grocery store workers can work around people, so can teachers.
I don’t know about his intentions regarding the pension pre-covid but angling for federal dollars is absolutely happening. I know someone who has been tapped as a consultant on that very issue. He wouldn’t really discuss specifics with me but my assumption is Andy has to make our state virus and economic numbers look as bad as possible in order to maximize federal funding.
He also said there are a couple of very large second tier Kentucky universities that are on the brink of bankruptcy and this might do them in without a bailout.
You do realize that this fascination w/ a vaccine is the equivalent of pink unicorns and gumdrops floating across the sky. We have a flu vaccine each year that people ignore and you have tens of thousands die inc. children (of which many more kids will die THIS FLU SEASON than covid)
For the umteenth time, schools needs to be open, or you are going to see the same consequences that we are seeing now because of lockdowns. This isn't rocket science...they have had months to prepare and now they are a deer in headlights. There will be cases to deal with...and you deal with them.
Teachers...they have no say except when do I report to class. Period. They are front line essential workers who have a responsibility to uphold...or find another gig.
I don't know how in the world Morehead or K State are still open. I can't imagine they were faring well even in better days. Wouldn't surprise me if EKU is on that list, either.
These aren't really the examples but higher education could use a good cleansing. I don't typically buy into a lot of the disparity stuff but the difference in resources from higher education to rural/urban/at risk K-12 is really, really f*cked up. Between, Harvard, Texas, Yale, TAMU, Stanford we could solve primary education problems in the US, 10 fold.
The referenced study gave me pause about schools reopening, until my daughter confirmed there are no 22-year-old “children“ at her school.
Our governor has an issue with people making decisions for themself. Not just him though our government has gotten entirely too big and has more control of the people’s lives that it was ever intended to
Exactly. Lock down those at the most risk for a short period of time until it gets through the majority. Swine flu is the use case. Let it go and get through here.
So many hypocritical positions King Andy has backed himself into. So if he lets them play, he looks like a clown saying yeah it’s fine for them to ignore social distancing so they can play their high school sports, but no they can’t go back to school. Yet if he says they can’t play, again he looks like a clown when he allows UK football to play (with fans in the stands at a certain capacity also) but says “no high school football you can’t play because the difference is....ummmm...uhhh...umm...”we will make up a reason and get back to you with a twisted statistic that attempts to clarify our absurd hypocrisy. Speaking of hypocrisy, aren’t 99.9 % of sports coaches also teachers/workers within the schools? Kind of funny all the teachers associations have been saying how they are scared to death for teachers if kids go back to in person classes, yet some of these teachers are cool with being around the kids so they can get their sports in. Why are KEA and other teachers associations not condemning the KHSAA vote to move forward with sports? Why aren’t they speaking out for the safety of their teachers demanding that sports not be played?
It's beautiful isn't it? This charade will all come crashing down at some point.
College students, who have a fatality rate of next to nil, should tell the rest of society to eff off. Our country is 27 T in debt, I’d be damned if you told me I’m responsible for that plus I have to give up the best years of my life so that some folks over 80 would live to see 90.
I have been saying exactly this for months on here and still get shouted down by the easily manipulated.
Thankfully it seems like more and more people are pulling their head out of their rear and waking up.
It is WAAAAAAAY past time to end the stupidity.
Ive worked the entire time, and around a whole lot of people each day. Literally nothing changed for me except a random stimulus deposit to my bank and less traffic on work commute. These teachers going on like this are a complete joke and frankly its shameful.